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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...
 

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Dear Heavenly Father, please heal this person from torment from evil thoughts and demonic oppression. In the name of Jesus Christ, we bind and cast out any demonic forces who are trying to hurt this person right now. Lord, please set them free because You are good and kind and merciful. We ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

Please keep praying to God and listen to the Bible. You can listen to the Bible at www.bible.com and press play. It will bless you.
 
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Dear Heavenly Father, please heal this person from torment from evil thoughts and demonic oppression. In the name of Jesus Christ, we bind and cast out any demonic forces who are trying to hurt this person right now. Lord, please set them free because You are good and kind and merciful. We ask in Jesus' name. Amen.

Please keep praying to God and listen to the Bible. You can listen to the Bible at www.bible.com and press play. It will bless you.
people keep suggesting that, and i keep telling myself i need to focus on God and Scripture, but when i try...nothing. i feel nothing. i don't understand it, and im unmotivated to seek God through His Word despite my dire state.
 

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people keep suggesting that, and i keep telling myself i need to focus on God and Scripture, but when i try...nothing. i feel nothing. i don't understand it, and im unmotivated to seek God through His Word despite my dire state.
You might try talking to a christian counsellor. Many churches counselling available, whether you are a member or not.

Also, religion isn't always about feeling. Sometimes feelings are misleading. Tell Jesus how you are feeling--He knows how you feel, but He loves to hear from you.

Just pick up your Bible and read it for maybe 10 minutes a day." Lord, I really don't feel motivated to read this, but I am going to anyway, and You and I can work through this." No matter what, just 10 minutes. Most folk start with the gospel of John.
 
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You might try talking to a christian counsellor. Many churches counselling available, whether you are a member or not.

Also, religion isn't always about feeling. Sometimes feelings are misleading. Tell Jesus how you are feeling--He knows how you feel, but He loves to hear from you.

Just pick up your Bible and read it for maybe 10 minutes a day." Lord, I really don't feel motivated to read this, but I am going to anyway, and You and I can work through this." No matter what, just 10 minutes. Most folk start with the gospel of John.
Am i a bad person for not wanting to, despite knowing how desprately i need to?
 
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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...
No you are not bad. !!!!!!!!!


Also, I suffered with major depression for years. I felt like the little "c" on the keyboard. I felt invisible. I was hospitalized a couple of times--once for 3 months.

Sometimes it comes from a biological place--sometimes from trauma. I had a pastor show me this verse when I was wondering why I was having such a time and it seemed others were just going right along.

This is what he showed me:
Ps 87:5 "And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her.

6 The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there. Selah."
God takes us where we are, and some of us have a different past, but it's OK The Lord counts where you were born--what your life has been.

I took meds for years, and don't give up on therapy. It can take a long to heal.

I will pray for you.
 
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people keep suggesting that, and i keep telling myself i need to focus on God and Scripture, but when i try...nothing. i feel nothing. i don't understand it, and im unmotivated to seek God through His Word despite my dire state.

What is more important to you? Find that, and if that is not God, then that is your idol of whatever. For me, it was porn or video games or some person. If we have something hindering our prayers, it kills our desire for God. If you are sure you have nothing like that, what I can say is pray to seek God. Proverbs 2. Man can't help much, only God can. We need a new heart - Psalms 51. Me too.
 
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Jambre,
You are in a dark place, Cassandra and myself have been there, and we can still go through periods like this. You remind me of myself as I woukd be writhing on the floor and screaming "WHERE ARE YOU GOD"!!! The voices in our heads can scream louder than us even!
Cassandra hit the nail on the head when she said we do not necessarily go by our "feelings", they are so fickle. We walk by faith and not by sight. Believe what He says about you, and you can be sure it is a TRUTH once you can calm your mind and practice it. KNOW He loves you and that since we are still living in this fallen world, there is a brand new one coming as this one will be done away with brother...ask Him for strength of faith and endurance on waiting for Him to move in your life.
Dominic has said some mighty prayers for you brother, this is spiritual warfare...this struggle of ours (Christians) is ALWAYS spiritual at it's origins. Dark evil spirits are always behind dark, evil men...and women.
You ARE seeking Him! Even through all of the pain brother. He will be there at the end. Here is a song from Lauren Daigle that came out a couple/few years ago, it came on while I was in the midst of a screaming and crying fit...they are not near as bad as they once were, but bad enough to HATE facing a new day...the lyrics blew me away as they were the EXACT questions I had asked the MOMENT I flew out of my room...that day seemed like He actually pushed me out of my bedroom before I did something I would regret, and would have hurt many.
Listen to the lyrics and see if you too have not asked these questions. Also, feel free to ask us things through in box as well if you don't want to put certain things out here. Enjoy the song as, it is what He say's about us!

 
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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...

I can relate to trying all sorts of things and nothing helps. It makes me think of the woman who had been to all the physicians and she was still sick. You are very open about your true feelings …if I read and understand correctly you spoke of having nothing left, no desire to even seek, search or ask anymore? I’ve been there too. Being at the end of yours …Have you considered asking Him for the desire? A few verses on Hope that have helped me: Job 14:19 The waters wear the stones: thou wash away the things which grow out of the dust of the earth; and thou destroy the hope of man.

Psalm 33:18-22, Lamentations 3:18-24,
Psalm 39:7-13, Psalm 40:1-3
 
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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...
There is probably some truth to your statement that "God only helps those who are willing to help themselves," but you can take that way too far. You have to pray to him for guidance and then walk with him. He will solve your problems for you.
 
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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...
Luckily meds work for me. It took me years to find the right meds, but I found them and a good doctor. I hope and pray that God will guide you to proper care. God will pull you in when necessary. I hope and pray that he brings you in if necessary.
 

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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...
check some of these out Jabre
For God’s Sake
 

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Yes! My inbox is open to you!..♥♥

And @Nancy, that song is beautiful! I wept through the whole thing!
Oh, so glad you took the time to listen! The first note of this song is what I heard when opening my bedroom door, AND it was the first time I had heard it too! It was new then...talk about timing. And, all I know is that i got up in a heartbeat as I knew I would NOT make it out of the pit again as it was going exactly the way it had before and each time it was worse so...this song, this simple awesome song will hold a special place for me forever...I too cried through out the whole thing.
xo
 

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This world is under the curse . Our hope is in JESUS CHRIST . Just ponder on all that HE did for us .
Let all that draws breath praise the glorious Lord .
With newness of heart and hope in the LORD , let all be stirred up in the things of the LORD .
Hope in HIM and remember His promise . HE WILL RETURN . Till then things in this ol world will get only worse .
Oh but what a great hope we have in the LORD and what a great home awaits us .
 

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I've tried meds. ive tried therapy. nothing works. only God can save me from this despair...but God only helps those who are willing to help themselves, and im helpless against the voices and demons that torment me. i might as well live the rest of my days in this despair and try to scrape up any happiness i can from the World...

I believe Paul's thorn in the flesh described as a messenger of Satan to buffet him in the flesh is him hearing voices that accuses him and such.

2 Corinthians 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

So trust the Lord to help you even at time when you do not feel like asking Him, or to even see your way though when you get overwhelmed. He is in you and is with you aways and He shall carry you. Indeed, He may remind you of how He has carried you through this far to have hope for the ordeal you may find yourself in that moment of the day.

1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: 13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

I don't think I have ever rejoiced during my trials but as life goes on, my spirit rejoice over how He has gotten me this far, He will carry me Home.

You got brothers & sister praying for you & I am sending up a prayer for you now.
 
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1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Philippians 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 
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