If you don't Believe and like Prosperity you won't like Heaven. No single wide trailers there. God won't give you what you refuse to receive. Your power in in your saying and believing and God loves to bless His family!
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If you don't Believe and like Prosperity you won't like Heaven.
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Randy Kluth
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This can only apply to Christians in a prosperous society. It certainly wouldn't apply to the Church in the 1st century, when they lived under Roman domination! And that's when the New Testament was written!
God says my people perish for lack of knowledge. Do you choose to accept or reject the blessings and gifts of God?? Your choice!
Randy Kluth
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I choose to accept the truth. Do you?
Are you really saying that the Early Church suffered persecution because they "lacked knowledge?" In that case you're attacking Jesus' own teaching, that we're blessed when we're persecuted for our righteousness.
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The Apostle Paul seemed to miss that PowerPoint.
"I know how to be abased, and I know how to abound.
Everywhere and in all things I have learned
- both to be full and to be hungry,
- both to abound and to suffer need.
Yes! Believers are blessed when they are persecuted for our righteousness
Yes! Believers are blessed when they are persecuted for our righteousness
Yes indeed, a man may indeed be persecuted for righteousness' sake even when he is materially wealthy...
Just look at our President (Donald Trump).
He received Christ during his first term and is hated by the liberal media...in their eyes he can do nothing right.
Just look at our President (Donald Trump).
He received Christ during his first term and is hated by the liberal media...in their eyes he can do nothing right.
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marksman
My eldest granddaughter showing the result of her
The backstory always reveals the WHY.
Why were Jews under Roman Authority?
For being Trustful and Obedient leading them to enjoying Gods Blessings?
Glory to God,
Taken
The quicking baptism of the Holy Spirit in a man, in part is spiritually receiving the Word of God in their heart:
2 Cor 3:
[3] Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
Where the Word of God IS: IS prosperity...
Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
If the Lord Gods Word has been Sent to you, is IN and With you...God says His Word shall prosper you.
Hope that answers your question.
Glory to God,
Taken
"""Above all"" 3John 1:2 Beloved, I wish """above all things """that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.
Agios
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3rd world countries, the most poorest countries in the world, lack material possessions, yet they are the richest - why? Because they get to SEE and KNOW Jehovah Jireh! Their faith would put many of ours to shame, they rely on God to provide for food, water, we just buy at a store. Can you imagine their thankfulness when God provides these people with the basics of life?
We should desire what they have! It's a treasure worthy of storing. He is building their character, transforming them so Christ is manifested in them! WOW! That is something to pursue, am I right?
Praise God He puts on His people's hearts to pursue Him, pursue His Kingdom and His righteousness and not material possessions! I will take YOU God, over great wealth! He alone is worthy of all praise!
We should desire what they have! It's a treasure worthy of storing. He is building their character, transforming them so Christ is manifested in them! WOW! That is something to pursue, am I right?
Praise God He puts on His people's hearts to pursue Him, pursue His Kingdom and His righteousness and not material possessions! I will take YOU God, over great wealth! He alone is worthy of all praise!
Randy Kluth
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For sure, Israel, as a nation, were getting what they deserved. They had abandoned *spiritual religion* on the inside, showing only a form of religion on the outside. They were therefore as guilty idolaters as those who had been before them, even without the idols.
These got what they deserved, which was Roman domination. And yet, this did not reflect divine judgment upon the righteous. God called the righteous to minister in times when people needed God's word. And this included times when Christian ministers themselves would have to suffer.
There is no guarantee to believers that they can be immune from tribulation and suffering in this world. We cannot claim the benefits of the future Kingdom until it actually comes. In the meantime, we benefit from having the word of God as a message of hope, or present salvation, but not of deliverance from tribulation and suffering. I just posted a 2 part message on this elsewhere.
Randy Kluth
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Amen to the sentiment. It isn't a guarantee of prosperity and health, but it is a wishful sentiment.
What a believer that is living in the will of God can expect======
Psalm 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
Psalm 103:2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
Psalm 103:3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
Psalm 103:4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
Psalm 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
Psalm 103:1 Bless the LORD, O my soul: and all that is within me, bless his holy name.
Psalm 103:2 Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits:
Psalm 103:3 Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;
Psalm 103:4 Who redeemeth thy life from destruction; who crowneth thee with lovingkindness and tender mercies;
Psalm 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagle's.
Heaven will ultimately be the new Earth. And yes, the new Jerusalem is ornate. Because it's God's dwelling place.
Like that of a very precious jewel, like as jasper, clear as crystal” (Revelation 21:11).
Are we going to have actual mansions in heaven or the new Earth?
The Greek word translated as mansion or house is monai, a word referring to a dwelling place. The Father's "house" is a form of oikos. It is the basic word for house in the Greek language. There is every indication that the believer's home will be good and even perfect, but there is nothing to indicate the exact nature of where believers will dwell. And none of this says anything about our material possessions on earth now.
Like that of a very precious jewel, like as jasper, clear as crystal” (Revelation 21:11).
Are we going to have actual mansions in heaven or the new Earth?
The Greek word translated as mansion or house is monai, a word referring to a dwelling place. The Father's "house" is a form of oikos. It is the basic word for house in the Greek language. There is every indication that the believer's home will be good and even perfect, but there is nothing to indicate the exact nature of where believers will dwell. And none of this says anything about our material possessions on earth now.
Randy Kluth
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Don't be sorry--I agree with you! There will be streets of gold in the New Jerusalem. I'm surprised you think I believe otherwise???
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