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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by idono, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. idono

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J593vfn39AY
    Humanlike robot Jia Jia draws attention at World Robot Conference

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1voN94lMpqc
    China's realistic robot Jia Jia can chat with real humans


    Human like robot - Jia Jia. It has facial expressions, can wink her eyes, and can speak.
    It makes me related it to Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.
    I think the image of the beast could be something similar to this human like robot.
    What do you think?
     
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    This is one that even the highest of prophets here do not know yet.. All we do know is that it (HAS) to be something that the (Majority) will not see it or get it.. That is a given.. But you may have something as what you describe and I have seen what you talk about too .. As God is weird in a lot of ways.. His ways are not our ways or our thoughts. You must tie in something blasphemous to an (Image) and the (Majority) of the people accept it as (OK).. Or it has to do with not being able to buy or sell - such as our in the US---social security number or tax ID.. something like that.. The bottom line is that the Majority will fall for it and accept it as normal (The image) and it actually could be something as stupid as the speaking Ronald Reagan doll.. I mean it man.. keep lookout!
     
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    Chinese Bible translated this word “image” into “”, “” could be meant “statue” in Chinese. That is why my first impression when I read the news about the human like robot related to this scripture.
     
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    To understand the Bible book of Revelation, as well as the rest of the Bible, a person has to be in touch with those whom God uses as his "prophets".(see Matt 24:45-47 whereby Jesus said that spiritual food would be dispensed by a "faithful and discreet slave" during our time period, during Jesus invisible "presence", Matt 24:3)


    When Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar had a dream of an "immense image", though he sought understanding from his magic-practicing priests and conjurers, they were unable to provide an explanation of its meaning.(Note: they were unable to tell king Nebuchadnezzar even what his dream was)


    However, God had one of his people, a "prophet" named Daniel (Matt 24:15), to both reveal the dream and its meaning, for Daniel said: "None of the wise men, conjurers, magic-practicing priests, or astrologers are able to tell the king the secret that he is asking. But there is a God in the heavens who is a Revealer of secrets, and he has made known (through Daniel) to King Nebuchadnezzar what is to happen in the final part of the days (or "last days" [2 Tim 3:1], our time frame in history)".(Dan 2:27, 28)


    Jesus even showed that the most literate or well educated people will be unable to accurately make sense of the Bible on their own, such as Revelation and its series of visions, as well as Daniel and its revealing of a succession of world powers (Dan 7) as well as the who the "king of the south" and the "king of the north" that are engaged in a conflict (Dan 11) to what is the meaning of Genesis 3:15 concerning the promised offspring to what God's Kingdom is.


    Jesus said: "I publicly praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones (university graduates with PhDs etc, highly skilled ones, those with considerable abilities and knowledge, but who have an air of superiority) and have revealed them to young children (or humble, teachable ones who follow the leadings of God's holy spirit). Yes, O Father, because this is the way approved by you (to hide Scriptural understanding from those not qualified to grasp it)."(Matt 11:25, 26)


    So, now let's get down to "brass tacks" and unveil who "the image" is at Revelation 13:15. However, before this can be done, a person has to grasp several other characters in the Bible book of Revelation. For example, what is the "wild beast" that arose from the "sea", as seen at Revelation 13:1 and that is the creation of the "dragon", that has its "image" produced by the ' two horned beast that looks like a lamb but speaks like a dragon ' ?(Rev 13:11)


    First off, lets see what the "sea" is from which the "wild beast" arises. The Bible is its own interpreter, for Isaiah 57:20 says: "But the wicked are like the restless sea that cannot calm down, and its waters keep tossing up seaweed and mire". Isaiah 17 says: "Listen ! There is a commotion of many peoples, who are as boisterous as the seas ! There is an uproar of nations whose sound is like the roar of mighty waters !".(Isa 17:12)


    Hence, the Bible reveals what the "sea" is, the restless masses of mankind who are never satisfied with the status quo, who are always on edge, as Jesus said, always in a state of agitation.(Luke 21:25, King James Bible reads "perplexity")


    They want political change, and from these masses of people came forth the wide array of political governments, from democracy to monarchy to oligarchy to a republic. Thus, the "dragon" or Satan (Rev 12:9) is the mastermind behind all the political governments that came in to existence after the global deluge, over 4,000 years ago.


    Thence, the "wild beast" (with its seven heads and ten horns) is the composite body of all political governments that have been assembled over their millennia of time. The Bible book of Daniel is the key (the Bible is its own interpreter) to understanding that the "wild beast" are political governments as seen at Daniel 7:1-8, that identifies four "beasts", starting with ancient Babylon and closing out with the Roman Empire, but from it came forth the final world power ("in the final part of the days"), a "small horn", that became the 7th and final world power of Bible history, Britain/America.


    Consequently, what is it that mirrors the feelings and thoughts of the political arena as a composite unit, being its own "image" whereby political governments can exercise their right to file grievances against other nations or pursue their own policies, though supposedly for peace ? Initially, it was the League of Nations that came into existence in 1920 at the behest of Britain and America (of which they never joined though the founders of it), but collapsed in 1939 with the outbreak of World War II.


    This "image" of the "wild beast" is also known by another name, the "scarlet-colored wild beast" at Revelation 17:3. The color scarlet (as well as purple) is noted in the Bible as one of royalty.(Lam 4:5; Matt 27:28) The "scarlet-colored wild beast" is also seen as carrying a "woman" on its back, a "prostitute".


    Revelation 17 says that "the (scarlet-colored) wild beast that you (the apostle John) saw was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss (death-like state), and it is to go off into destruction" means that after the collapse of the League of Nations in 1939 ("but is not"), that it would come back to life under a new name, ' ascending out of the abyss ' of inactivity and became the United Nations in October, 1945.


    The "woman" riding on the back of the "scarlet-colored wild beast" is called Babylon the Great (Rev 17:5), that "has a kingdom over the kings of the earth" or political governments.(Rev 17:18) The name Babylon the Great is drawn from its prototype, ancient Babylon. Ancient Babylon was noted, not for its political capabilities, but rather for its extreme religiousness, albeit false, that spread throughout the earth.(Isa 47:1, 11-13; Jer 51:47)


    Hence, this "woman" that prostitutes herself before the "kings of the earth" is none other than the world empire of false religion, that includes Christendom.(Rev 17:1, 2) It has rode on the back of the "image" or "scarlet-colored wild beast" for millennia, but very soon this "wild beast" will go from just basically being all bark to ripping apart this "woman" prostitute, at the instance of our Maker, Jehovah God, who puts it within the hearts of the political governments ("ten horns" under the direction of the "image of the wild beast" or "scarlet-colored wild beast", the United Nations) to destroy her.(Rev 17:16, 17)
     
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    Seems like a dumb idea to me.

    I hope someone doesn't steal their RFID codes forcing people to dig out the old ones to replace them. Or suppose they have an emergency and need an MRI?

    I doubt it is the mark on the hands or forehead warned about in Revelations, but I wouldn't risk it.
     
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    Tesla Inc founder and Chief Executive Elon Musk on mission to link human brains with computers in four years. He said his latest company Neuralink Corp is working to link the human brain with a machine interface by creating micron-sized devices. The technology could take about eight to 10 years to become usable by people with no disability.

    Is this the beast's mark on the forehead?

    Elon Musk on mission to link human brains with computers in four years: Report
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-musk-neuralink-idUSKBN17N0CU?rpc=401

    Source: Reuters
     
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    A Wisconsin company is to become the first in the US to microchip employees. Eventually, they hope it will replace everything you might have in your wallet - from your key fob to your credit card and ID. They see as one day being simply another payment and identification method - only instead of a credit card or phone, there would be a microchip between your thumb and finger.

    Wisconsin company Three Square Market to microchip employees
    Wisconsin company Three Square Market to microchip employees - BBC News


    Source: BBC
     
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    I see a lot of Christians write a lot of stuff about satan . why do you give him glory? Why do you even mention him. he loves it when you talk about him and what he can or cant do. You have the power of life and death in your tounge Christian or not.
     
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    RFID is merely a way to track and control people. When it is combined with the desire to take care of oneself by yielding to the demands of the world, as opposed to trusting G-d to guide and care for you, you are then worshipping mammon. You have already then bowed, even if no one has directly asked you to.

    G-d's mark on us is the grieving over lawlessness as mentioned in Ezekial. The opposite is complying with lawlessness, and the people chipping others are all connected to the world.


    Ezekiel 9:1-10 (CJB)
    1 Then he cried loudly right in my ears: “Summon the commanders of the city, each holding his weapon of destruction.”
    2 At once, six men approached on the path from the upper gate, to the north, each man holding his weapon of destruction. Among them was a man clothed in linen, with a scribe’s writing equipment at his waist. They entered and stood by the bronze altar.
    3 Then the glory of the God of Isra’el was made to go up from over the keruv, where it had been, to the threshold of the house. He called to the man clothed in linen, who had the scribe’s writing equipment at his waist.
    4 Adonai said to him, “Go throughout the city, through all Yerushalayim, and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who are sighing and crying over all the disgusting practices that are being committed in it.”
    5 To the others I heard him say, “Go through the city after him and strike! Don’t let your eye spare; have no pity!
    6 Kill old men, young men, girls, little children, women — slaughter them all! But don’t go near anyone with the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” They began with the leaders in front of the house.
    7 Then he said to them, “Defile the house! Fill the courtyards with corpses! Get going!” So they went out, spreading death in the city.
    8 While the killing was going on, I was left alone. I fell on my face, cried, and said, “Oh, Adonai Elohim! In pouring out your fury on Yerushalayim, are you going to destroy everyone left in Isra’el?”
    9 Then he said to me, “The wickedness of the house of Isra’el and Y’hudah is enormous, the land is full of blood, and the city is full of justice denied; because they say, ‘Adonai has left the land, Adonai doesn’t see.’
    10 But as far as I am concerned, my eye will not spare, and I will have no pity, but I will bring [the consequences of] their ways on their own heads.”
     
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    And so we get closer, step by step, mistake by mistake.
     
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    Robot Sophia speaks at Saudi Arabia's Future Investment Initiative
     
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    And they named it 'Wisdom', but why they chose a female form confuses me. They don't like or respect women. Perhaps to be less threatening, but this thing is simply a pre-programed unit, and until it is possessed by a demon it is merely a machine without life or spirit of any kind. May Yeshua come soon.
     
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    Well many people believe that the image of the beast will be a robot that's given the breath of life. I don't see any "life" in this Sophia machine whatsoever, its just another computer as far as anyone is concerned. If the image of the beast really will be a machine, then what would be the point? Is that supposed to wow anybody to the point of them wanting to worship it? When you look at the narrative of how the image of the beast is introduced, the idea that it could be a robot doesn't even make that much sense to me. With Sophia, it is a machine made in the image of man that is programmed to speak. The image spoken of in Revelation isn't stated to be made in mans's image, but in the beasts image, which is not a man but be an angel called Apollyon. Also, unlike Sophia, its not man that causes the image of the beast to speak, but its the second beast that breathes into it the breath of life that man created. Its not something that's pre-programmed to speak, it is something that is literally brought to life by the possession of a spirit. It happens in similar fashion to the creation of Adam and Eve.

    Some, like Questor believes it will be a demon that speaks, others believe it might be Satan himself. I don't believe it would have to be the latter, knowing that Satan is the prince of the power of the air, who has power over demonic spirits.

    If Satan, the dragon gives the first beast his power and authority then I have no reason to believe it will be any different with the second beast being given the power to breathe into the nostrils of the image of the beast the breath of the life a demon, making it a living soul, giving it sentience. I believe this event will be much more significant than just some pre-programmed tin can speaking in front of a crowd, it really doesn't impress me one iota.
     
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    ha, religious people are truly deranged
     
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