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Is America Becoming Sodom Or Is It Already?

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality Forum' started by JesusIsFaithful, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. JesusIsFaithful

    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    The sins of Sodom may not be what you think it is.

    Ezekiel 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. 50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

    Although homosexuality was apparently rampant to such an extent that they had their own kind of political correctness in that you can't say "no" to them like when they were banging on Lot's door to let those two men out so they can get to know them, pride was the root of that homosexuality.

    1 John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

    Now that is explaining how a sinner can worship the outward appearance more than the Creator for why God would give them up to a reprobate mind to do that which is not convenient; which by homosexuality, no one can build a family by such an abominable union.

    Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    So I reckon if we are seeing homosexuality having its way in America, it is probably because of the actual sins of Sodom for why God is allowing sinners to have such a reprobate mind.

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  2. Stranger

    Stranger Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree. Some things have gone before, before a country is turned over to homosexualtiy. Just as you pointed out in (Ezekiel), pride, fullness of bread, and idleness paved the way for homosexuals in Sodom. Then in Romans, as you show, Paul further elaborates noting that a people turn away from God, when they know there is God. They reject Him. All of which results in God giving them over three times to a horrible lifestyle.

    1.) turning them over to an abuse of normal affections men with women.
    2.) then turning them over to homosexuality.
    3.) then turning them over to a reprobate mind.

    Once a people are in this downward spiral, as a people, it is the end. As I have said about homosexuals, they are like maggots on a dead carcass. You only see them if something is already dead.

    Stranger
     
  3. Enoch111

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    Jerusalem is called "Sodom" and "Egypt" in Revelation and there is tremendous support for sexual perversion in Israel right now.
     
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    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    That dead carcass being a nation that forgets God, then I agree, however, sinners strengthened in their wickedness, any wickedness, are the same as homosexuals when they rationalize that sin in seeing no need for the Savior to save them from those sins.
     
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    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    If there were, why am I not hearing about it? Only America seem to be broadcasting it the most with no shame whatsoever.

    I think England is in 2nd place, but I suppose they could be considered as a tie in first place in the world as broadcasting an open sin to be accepted by all.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Just do some Internet research.
     
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    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    Maybe at another time, but media wise... USA and England are practically advertising it as "okay".

    Thanks for sharing, brother.:)
     
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    And Justin Trudeau of Canada would rather be in a Gay Parade than attending to serious government business. What should really concern Christians is how the apostate mainline denominations are promoting the idea of *gay marriage* and homosexual clergy. Also "...several studies suggest that the incidence of homosexuality in the Roman Catholic priesthood is much higher than in the general population as a whole...." (Wikipedia).
     
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    JesusIsFaithful Well-Known Member

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    For those that attend church, it seems the only thing one can do to stem the trend is to preach against it in that assembly and share in that same judgment as against it, and all the things that are the root of it like pride of life and lust.

    Then maybe as a church, the ones God raise up can volunteer to start the outreach ministry either by snail mail or the internet to other similar like denomination to remind if not reprove any such trend from happening in those churches.

    One wonders in this internet age we are living in, why christian forums do not provide a church forum for that particular local church to join the forum for relating to church members in that forum as well as other churches of like denomination or likeminded in Christ.

    Maybe to identify as being of that church, each church should have an avatar specifically representing their local church.

    But I digress.

    Thanks for sharing. I know it is pretty bad out there.

    The CW network got two TV shows that pretty much depicted a homosexual situation where you can't say no to; like in Arrow where Sara Lance was prisoner to the League of Assassins and was under the care of Nyssa, the daughter of the leader of the League of Assassins and Nyssa makes a move on her as if Saar can say no? Then they try to make Sara as if she was always gay that she preferred women over boys and yet in the beginning, she was so into boys that she cheated with her sister's boyfriend. This is what happens when homosexual activist cut into the series in not being true to the character in making someone a homosexual. Now "Sara" says in a recent crossover as of last year, that she likes both men and women.

    Then you have CW's the 100 where Clarke is held captive as her and her people are at the mercy of the ruling princess whom is being peer pressured by other tribes to end Clarke and her people, and then she makes a move on Clarke. How can she say no to her?

    Can anyone not see Stockholm's syndrome in both cases as well?

    It really provokes me when Hollywood hype prison type homosexuality and getting away with it. I am about done watching any shows on the CW. I might still continue to watch the Flash, but I trust the Lord to lead me otherwise if He prefers I do not even though as all things are lawful unto me but I shall not be brought under the power of any. And yes, I had stopped watching Arrow and the 100's. They are bringing a transgender super hero on Supergirl and so.. about ready to stop watching it altogether. They made Supergirl's adopted sister, Alex, gay in the second season, which again, was not true to character because of all the teasing of this forbidden romance between Max Lord and Alex in the first season. The WB did the same thing on Dawson Creek's second season by changing Jack's sexual orientation sometime after he "pursued"Joey and kissed her out of the blue, knowing full well that she was still having a relationship with Dawson. Then it comes out he has always been gay .. yeah right. If Joey was the one that kissed him and then he felt trapped and reciprocated so that nobody would know he was gay, that would be believable, but no. This is an awful example of Hollywood playing homosexual activist in provoking the viewers for a nasty response just so they can call them bigots and act all persecuted & such.

    Anyway, I digress again, but this is what I mean by the media promoting homosexuality openly to be accepted as okay. Now they are doing it for transgenders as influencing children into thinking about that transgender ideology without informing them of the danger of becoming sterile as a result.

    Think any child is old enough to make an informed choice when later on in life they wish they had stayed as they were so they can have a family? I hope they sue Hollywood and the LGBT for all they are worth.

    The LGBT are backing legislation for laws for using proper pronouns on transgenders as they are different kinds of transgenders and thus different pronouns. They try to insinuate that transgenders will be insulted and offended if they are not addressed by their proper pronoun. It is nothing more but giving power over the minute minority to bring the majority into the court of law for civil lawsuits for not yielding to their rule and thus tyranny.

    If somebody is going to look like a man, then people should be allowed to say "he" or "him". If someone is going to look like a female, then people should be allowed to say "she" and "her". Those pronouns as always been and always will be correct even if someone is an impersonator. Not like we are God that can read people's minds. They are really being ridiculous to the point of being offensive, and provoking a response in return.

    The Psychiatric Association had at one time announced in the media that homosexuality was a sexual aberrational disorder or something to that effect which brought about threatening phone calls at the work place and even in their homes with bricks being thrown through their windows when the next day, the Psychiatric Association or some organization like it, recanted. Kind of like using Nazis tactics in gaining power before WW2. I cannot find that news article now on the internet. Is it suggestive that they had it removed? Or is my search engine just not good enough to find it? I know not.

    I remembered it, even though I have trouble recalling the specifics, but that did happened. Oh well.

    I digress again, but it goes to point how the media are catering to voicing the homosexual agenda's and now the transgenders' agenda, having the news NBC media cater to transgenders making a big deal about Scarlett Johannson being cast for the role of a transgender, and interviewing them as speaking for that audience that no longer want transgenders roles being taken by non transgenders. The transgenders are only speaking for themselves, the liars, and NBC news helped them spin that lie. I don't care to see a movie about a transgender crime boss. Not the way they are advertising it which is what I suspect they are doing it for in promoting that kind of a movie.

    Right now, my folks and I are watching the Walton's on Amazons. Thank the Lord for small favors.
     
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    If God does not destroy the USA soon he will have to apologies to Sodom and Gomorrah.
     
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    The New Age of Political Correctness will insure that all go to Hell, that are using the power of PCness as tactic of there Satanic war, it has Hate speech Laws to undermine any thing or one that oppose or criticise their Nazi type stance, all such PC stunts were used to undermine and brainwash the German people and it worked, it lead the people astray, just as Stalin used PCness to work so as to undermine the people and dictate over them as well, with mans works madness. all Political Correctness work against God, history proves that such have to undermine God, because people of God can identify the workings of Satan and it's by there works that we know them.
    Political Correctness is a tool that can be used for any era, we could call the communist MK 1 and the Nazi type MK 2, the thing is that they do not have to be the same, as it workings are to undermine what ever the situation is and what ever measures that it has to undertake, it's a war much like that used by Islam Jihad and sadly the average person perception is only of a military war, but has no idea about that wars maybe won but forget that there is a struggle type of war as well.
    Military wars can only win battles and that's not only one side of war.
    Islam and Jews know all about war in depth that's all they do on every level you could think of, the west nowadays are the most foolish generation in the history of the world, they are like mushrooms kept in the dark and just fed you know what.
    Our whole way of life has been undermined and turned upside down, our history is being undermined on every level and our children brainwash like never before, there school education is crap and all the churches are worthless because they do not preach Jesus Christ, they only have a social gospel and they want the kingdom but they don't want God in it and that's why fools look to the Jews, they think they are going to get something out of it, but the sad fact is they have turned there backs on Jesus Christ and that's a fact and that is the great apostasy then comes the Devil who they worship. such is just only mans works madness.
    One has to understand that we can only work in Jesus Christ and all other works just does not cut it at all.
    Jesus is our King and we must abide in him only or you are not a Christian and if you start adding Jesus plus Political Correctness you are going to hell, because Political is never of the truth any political system is corrupt and that's why we had Church and State to keep an eye on such twats so they don't get out of hand and start their Socialist mans works and the Government having power over the people and dominating over the Church.
    Just talk with any Atheist and you will see what they look up to and what they look down on all of such people are morons lost as ranting total nonsense like PC and Socialism or some far right greed driven total rat bag that wants to dominate over all he can.
     
  12. JesusIsFaithful

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    They are His still, but they are not abiding in Him as His disciples.

    I can understand what you are saying in how Satan can use political correctness as I see it as undermining the majority by giving power over the minute minority, thus turning democracy into tyranny, but 2 Thessalonians 3:1-7 has Paul speaking of wicked and unreasonable men that have not faith that no longer walk after the traditions taught of us in how Jesus touching us to heed His commandment to withdraw from those that fall away from the faith, but in 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15, Paul points out to withdraw from them not to treat them as the enemy, but to admonish them as brothers still, which I see it as done in the hopes it will lead them to repentance.

    This is why churches are to excommunicate the unrepentant brother so that once he does repent, he is allowed back in. 1 Corinthians 5:4-5 speaks of the purpose of excommunication which can be seen by how God will judge His House at the pre great trib rapture event & 1 Corinthians 5:11 shows why God will excommunicate any unrepentant saved believer from attending the Marriage Supper. Matthew 18:10-17 explains that in spite of Jesus having the 99 that did not go astray, He will still go after even that one lost sheep even if the church excommunicates him and he still did not repent until he was excommunicated by the Bridegroom which by then is too late, but He has him as promised in John 6:39-40 FYI
     
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    Is America Becoming Sodom Or Is It Already?

    If Trump remains in office the chances of this happining is 99.9% unless we can kick this racist, pathological liar out of office before then.
     
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    He who opens wide his throat like the nether world, and is insatiable as death, Who gathers to himself all the nations, and rallies to himself all the peoples -

    Shall not all these take up a taunt against him, satire and epigrams about him, to say: Woe to him who stores up what is not his: how long can it last! he loads himself down with debts.

    Shall not your creditors rise suddenly? Shall not they who make you tremble awake? You shall become their spoil!
     
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