Is Science showing us Creation is still happening?

[pittsburghjoe]

Einstein never liked the idea that nature is uncertain and he once said “does that mean the Moon is not there when I am not looking at it”.

What he didn't consider is that God is everywhere. If something needs to be real to our reality, God makes it so. In Science, we call it wave collapse. A quantum wave is becoming a physical particle. That sounds like Creation to me.

You need something smaller than a virus to display the effect of something not being real/physical.

With God in control of wave collapse, it means God could design the Universe and then set the history to match whatever He physically made. A quantum wave doesn't have a physical history until it is collapsed. This answers why we question the age of the Earth to what it says in the Bible. It could also answer evolution.

This would mean God is the Universal Observer and the Universal Wave. It answers the measurement problem, observer effect, and the unified theory. Does something entangled with itself join the Universal Wave? Are there levels of observation to God? ..like something that lets God observe all, but also allows Him to muffle sin?

Could there be a natural boundary between local and non-local via the size something can't entangle with itself anymore while in superposition? God is the Universal Wave, so He is entangled with the smaller particles that can entangle with themselves. He just doesn't enact wave-collapse unless it is necessary.

Is wave collapse something that isn't entangled with God anymore?
Entangled with God because He is infinite and so is superposition.
God still knows of something after it is wave collapsed, it just isn't entangled with Him.

Something can't be entangled with God if it is too large to be entangled with itself or if it is observed/measured/decohered/fallen.

You need God for wave collapse to physical particles. Does that mean creation is still happening?

A fallen state = age, death, decay, and entropy. You can be about yourself separated from God the Father ..you can sin. I think satan has something to do with a fallen state. Just being fallen didn't give us the ability to sin here. Something had to happen to unleash that ..like what happened in the Garden.

The age is the amount of time you spent in a fallen state.

Eating the fruit caused a fallen state and the first sin.

Is the last Adam about the first to last sin?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Einstein never liked the idea that nature is uncertain and he once said “does that mean the Moon is not there when I am not looking at it”.

What he didn't consider is that God is everywhere. If something needs to be real to our reality, God makes it so. In Science, we call it wave collapse. A quantum wave is becoming a physical particle. That sounds like Creation to me.

You need something smaller than a virus to display the effect of something not being real/physical.

With God in control of wave collapse, it means God could design the Universe and then set the history to match whatever He physically made. A quantum wave doesn't have a physical history until it is collapsed. This answers why we question the age of the Earth to what it says in the Bible. It could also answer evolution.

This would mean God is the Universal Observer and the Universal Wave. It answers the measurement problem, observer effect, and the unified theory. Does something entangled with itself join the Universal Wave? Are there levels of observation to God? ..like something that lets God observe all, but also allows Him to muffle sin?

Could there be a natural boundary between local and non-local via the size something can't entangle with itself anymore while in superposition? God is the Universal Wave, so He is entangled with the smaller particles that can entangle with themselves. He just doesn't enact wave-collapse unless it is necessary.

Is wave collapse something that isn't entangled with God anymore?
Entangled with God because He is infinite and so is superposition.
God still knows of something after it is wave collapsed, it just isn't entangled with Him.

Something can't be entangled with God if it is too large to be entangled with itself or if it is observed/measured/decohered/fallen.

You need God for wave collapse to physical particles. Does that mean creation is still happening?

A fallen state = age, death, decay, and entropy. You can be about yourself separated from God the Father ..you can sin. I think satan has something to do with a fallen state. Just being fallen didn't give us the ability to sin here. Something had to happen to unleash that ..like what happened in the Garden.

The age is the amount of time you spent in a fallen state.

Eating the fruit caused a fallen state and the first sin.

Is the last Adam about the first to last sin?

the short answer is no!

Science has never discovered a new stasr being formed or a new planet coming into existence. They see places they hypothesize new stars are born, but what they don't know about those suppposed "star nurseries" out weighs what they do know- the rest they fill in based on their evolutionary/big bang presuppositional bias.

Everything creatred was finished on the sixth day! Life continues, and the universe is devolving not evolving!

 

[Pearl]

God is the same yesterday and tomorrow, he does not change, so I believe that he is still the Creator God and is still creating.

 

[101G]

God is the same yesterday and tomorrow, he does not change, so I believe that he is still the Creator God and is still creating.

on point and correct. one scripture, John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

PICJAG
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[Enoch111]

God is the same yesterday and tomorrow, he does not change, so I believe that he is still the Creator God and is still creating.

Since the Bible say that God finished His creative work on the 6th day of creation, and rested on the 7th day, it means that you are contradicting Scripture. The Law of Conservation of Energy (which is true) says that energy is neither created nor destroyed. It is simply transformed to another form of energy. Also, since energy and matter are interchangeable, the same principle applies. In effect, God is NOT still creating (in the physical realm).

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Since the Bible say that God finished His creative work on the 6th day of creation, and rested on the 7th day, it means that you are contradicting Scripture. The Law of Conservation of Energy (which is true) says that energy is neither created nor destroyed. It is simply transformed to another form of energy. Also, since energy and matter are interchangeable, the same principle applies. In effect, God is NOT still creating (in the physical realm).

I'm talking about individual particles. Not something that needs listed in the Bible. You do bring up a good point that it can be transformation. So it doesn't have to be labeled "creation" ..but it is still God doing it.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The idea that wave collapse could be defined by something that stopped being entangled with God is mind blowing.

Scientists say non-local becomes local with quantum information being lost to the environment. I'm saying it is God swapping it to be real and physical particles. I think it uses the information to describe a scalar volume.

That would mean there is evidence of God all around us.

 

[101G]

Since the Bible say that God finished His creative work on the 6th day of creation, and rested on the 7th day, it means that you are contradicting Scripture. The Law of Conservation of Energy (which is true) says that energy is neither created nor destroyed. It is simply transformed to another form of energy. Also, since energy and matter are interchangeable, the same principle applies. In effect, God is NOT still creating (in the physical realm).

there is no matter. as with gravity.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Enoch111]

there is no matter. as with gravity.

Another nonsensical statement.

"Matter is physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy."

 

[101G]

Another nonsensical statement.

"Matter is physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy."

GINOLJC, to all.
first thanks for the reply. second, that's only a typical Newtonian response. matter is only the electrical impulses in the brain, that is being interpreted as OBJECTS, or what we call matter.

and what we call or lable gravity is nothing but the inertia force or the recation on what we call an object as it remains at rest or in motion in the same straight line unless acted upon by some external force. we suggest you update your science knowledge base.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Ronald Nolette]

God is the same yesterday and tomorrow, he does not change, so I believe that he is still the Creator God and is still creating.

What is He creating? Especially in light of what it says in Genesis 2:

Genesis 2
King James Version

2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


Gods Word says that everything was finished and God rested, so what would He be creating?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If wave collapse is something that disconnects from God then reconnecting with Him is entanglement.

Original Sin caused us to disconnect from God.

To become one with God is to entangle with Him.

 

[101G]

If wave collapse is something that disconnects from God then reconnecting with Him is entanglement.

Original Sin caused us to disconnect from God.

To become one with God is to entangle with Him.

No saying that you're right or wrong, but consider this, just don't collapse the wave function. example, when our Lord rose from the dead, he "appeared", and "disappeared", before them who saw him. what happen? he simply collapse the wave function of LIGHT in order for them to see him him with "their", naked eyes. well in order for us to see him as he is ..... in the LIGHT.. 1 John 3:2. we will be change as he is and will be like him.

so in conclusion, if we simply stop/sinning, (which we cannot, while in these bodies), then we want collapse the wave field........ of ignorance, and then we can see clearly.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Are quantum effects related to all possible paths of waves?

Can tunneling happen when there was a possible path to allow it?

Would a decohered particle only have one path?

Is entanglement when two particles share the same "all possible paths"?

Can we quantum entangle with God because entanglement is timeless?

Does the delayed choice quantum eraser already demonstrate disregard for time?

The Cross is The Way out of this fallen reality. Our souls entangle to God when we open the door.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Could entanglement send messages back in time if the state remained?

Can Human Jesus pull sin information from the future via entanglement?

Jesus had our sins before we lived it.

 

[101G]

Philippians 3:13 & 14

101G
The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

We can cause entanglement, but its true purpose is to send all possible paths of causality back to Jesus on the Cross.

Did Jesus not only die for all sins, but for all sins we could have chosen to do?

 

[101G]

The focuse is alway on the future, just all things become new, the past is forgotten, as with sin. scripture, Jeremiah 31:34 "And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."
there is no entanglement, but only now, for the NOW holds the past, present and future.

101G
The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

@pittsburghjoe,
101G
The "Spiritual Saboteur"

consider what I'm about to say. the definition of Quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon that occurs when a pair or group of particles is generated, interact, or share spatial proximity in a way such that the quantum state of each particle of the pair or group cannot be described independently of the state of the others, including when the particles are separated by a large distance.
well the first problem is "spatial", or space. WHAT IS SPACE? a continuous area or expanse which is free, available, or unoccupied. well there is the problem, space is occupied, because space itself have a state of consistency itself. so there is no such thing as "Space".
second problem, an atom is not the smallest particle, nor electrons or protons and neutrons. and quarks are not the smallest unit of measurement

and another thing, we really don't know how fast the speed of light really is. so there is no measurment, for the observer point of view.

so right off the bat we have many problems to solve first before we make any assumptions.

101G
The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[pittsburghjoe]

All possible sins are forgiven because the decisions to do them hadn't been made yet.