Is the church necessary for salvation?
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That's a stupid question, you can only be part of the Church if you are saved first. One must be saved before recognizing to which Body that they belong. In other words, what you believe defines where you belong. For, once you start denying the Gospel, that you are, by definition, outside or eliminated from being part of the Church. Where you abide has no bearing on your status in the Church, it's what you confess with your heart, mind and soul that dictates to which family that you belong.
marksman
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Waht is neccesary for salvation is to repent and be baptised and receving the gift of the Holy Spirit. Outside of that there is no demand for any other ritual or rule.
So you agree
Cos you are baptized into the church
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Yes, endurance of faith is required, therefore, the church is not a quantifiable entity as your OP suggests. One minute, one may be part of the Church, but if he renounces his faith, he is no longer part of the body of Christ. Therefore, it is not the body that defines the Church, but the individuals.
Well Jesus is salvation the church is not Jesus, but group of people who worship him. Before churches people was saved by faith like Abraham he was not baptized. Is it good to have A church does the church hold sway who is saved or who should be baptize no only G-d has that power. Look for A church obey the lord but the church is only A meeting place remember G-d made your body A church or temple in some translations and it is holy or even more holier but we desecrate it. Church doesn't mean your are saved and neither it is where your damned but where you find help on your path.
Look for G-d inside of you and he will give you the love and faith to be baptize and look for it. Church and pastor give it to you but must keep it lit like fire or candle that needs it.
Look for G-d inside of you and he will give you the love and faith to be baptize and look for it. Church and pastor give it to you but must keep it lit like fire or candle that needs it.
That's backwards. One becomes part of the true church when he or she is saved.
marksman
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Wrong. I wasn't baptised into the church. I was baptised into the name of Jesus Christ.
Did Christ found a church!
Visible and invisible?
Corporeal and spiritual?
Is Christ and his church one?
Does Christ continue His redemptive ministry in His church?
Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 acts 9 eph 2:20
1 Pet 3:20
Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!
(Ark of Noah a type of the church, member of Christ and his church and salvation by baptism!)
(Outside the ark all died and outside the church there is no salvation!)
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Not even the “do this in remembrance of me” ritual/rule? If we don’t do it are we disobeying Him? If we disobey Him will we obtain salvation?
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