Is the gateway to The Throne, The Cross?

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SALVATION is getting on The Cross ...right? That is where JESUS took on our Forsakenness. So how do you think you get on that Cross? You Uphold His Image after being Reborn to IT!!! That is the Key ...that is THE WAY.

Why did JESUS tell the guy on the cross next to Him that he would be in His Kingdom that day? i think we are missing something big here.

JESUS on The Cross Represented everyone Given to Him by The Father for all Time. It was everyone that Upheld The Son's Image. Everyone Elected with His Blood.

The Resurrection made that time connection possible ...The Reborn Image.

You can't "time travel" when you are anchored to your flesh (sin). You can't be Saved until you give up repeated sins.

So the question is: Is JESUS Judging right now from His Cross (Throne)? Is He dividing the sheep from the goats?
 
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Why tell us JESUS was in the middle of The Throne unless It was talking about The Cross (Revelation 7:17)?

"For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters:"
 
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Is there a connection to a "circumcision made without hands" and a City built without hands?
The Reborn Kingdom Image?


Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Hebrews 11:10
For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

2 Corinthians 5:1-3
For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.


Romans 2:28-29
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Jeremiah 4:4
Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.
 
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You all love John 3:16 ...but you never bother to look two verses up to see HOW to Believe ...you give up repeated sin.

John 3:14-16
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Do you know what is going on there with Moses lifting up the serpent?

Numbers 21:4-9
7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people.

8 And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.

They acknowledged their sin to live!!!

To acknowledge your sin is to stop doing them.
To acknowledge your sin is to lift JESUS up.
To acknowledge your sin is to Believe in JESUS!!!

To Lift Up JESUS is to Uphold The Reborn Image!
You stop sin because you Believe!


GOD doesn't want animal children ...STOP!
 
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i'm done with lukewarm Christians that think CHRIST'S Blood is just handed to them. You have to live like Him to be in His Image. You are mocking GOD when you think you can do the same sin over and over again.


Galatians 6:7-8
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
 
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You are not Saved until your last repeated sin.

You bought satan's lie that you are covered, so you could sin.

Does this not sound plausible to you?
 
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SALVATION is getting on The Cross ...right? That is where JESUS took on our Forsakenness. So how do you think you get on that Cross? You Uphold His Image after being Reborn to IT!!! That is the Key ...that is THE WAY.

Why did JESUS tell the guy on the cross next to Him that he would be in His Kingdom that day? i think we are missing something big here.

JESUS on The Cross Represented everyone Given to Him by The Father for all Time. It was everyone that Upheld The Son's Image. Everyone Elected with His Blood.

The Resurrection made that time connection possible ...The Reborn Image.

You can't "time travel" when you are anchored to your flesh (sin). You can't be Saved until you give up repeated sins.

So the question is: Is JESUS Judging right now from His Cross (Throne)? Is He dividing the sheep from the goats?
Christ had to die, I believe, for all this to happen, but I would say the gateway is righteousness:

This is the gate of the LORD;
the righteous shall enter through it. Psalm 118:20 RSV
 
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Is the gateway to The Throne, The Cross?
I have no aspirations for the throne. Having a lover has far more appeal.
 

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I think it all has to do with the symbolism the human race has come to accept all these millions of years. Even subjective stuff, like we look at a tree and we see, "tree". And we understand a tree to look like "that".
If you follow.

Jesus was the Father. He didn't have to be born of a woman and come to deliver a new covenant and die to save us from our sins. I think he could have just saved us from them the same way he made us responsible for them. Doing what he wants with his creation.
I think the reason he did come in the form of a man was that symbolism part again. Jesus delivered the good news of a new covenant and let us to know there is hope beyond our human condition. That we can be more than we think we are and there is more than we think is this life. And in his day when he was killed for that and then didn't actually succumb to the death his murder by the Romans and the Sanhedrin would accomplish against a mortal man, people realized what his teaching about life after this life was all about. That we can conquer the death, the grave, that awaited us before. If we only believe what he told us.

So Jesus is the teacher and the symbol for that. And when we look to that role model and emulate his teachings we come closer to awakening within us what is that divine spark that is God within.