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Because Scripture says so,.twinc said:so why is it believed and accepted that Mary had children other than Jesus - twinc
Stranger said:Because Scripture says so,.
Stranger
Stranger said:Because Scripture says so,.
Stranger
Stranger said:twinc
Matt. 12:46-50
Stranger
Nice speech.twinc said:it does not say so but you do - this is the cause of division, divergence, differences ,disputes etc viz misinterpretations claiming H/S inspiration and guidance - twinc
The very verses I gave are your answer. (Matt. 12:48-49) "But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, behold my mother and my brethren!"lforrest said:How would you explain Jesus giving his mother to one of his deciples to care for if she had other sons?
Actually - this verse doesn't say that Mary had other children.Stranger said:twinc
Matt. 12:46-50
Stranger
The Apostles and disciples are "ALWAYS" called Apostles and disciples??Stranger said:BreadOfLife
Well, Mark Twain said it best. You got three kinds of lies. First is 'lies'. Second is 'damn lies'. And third is 'statistics'. What a dog and pony show you can do with statistics.
Pay attention to the Scriptures. Throughout (Matthew 1-12)Christ's disciples were always called, 'disciples' or 'apostles'. Thus the distinction in (Matt. 12:46) is clear. It is His mother Mary, and His brothers born from Mary that are being addressed.
Else why would Christ make the distinction in (12:50) when He said, "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother"?
The only answer can be because it is His fleshly mother and brothers that were being addressed.
Stranger
I just showed you the Scriptures that state that Mary had other children. (Matt. 12:46-50)BreadOfLife said:The Apostles and disciples are "ALWAYS" called Apostles and disciples??
Read Acts 1:15, where they are referred to as 120 ADELPHOI. These were not men from the same mother because 11 of them were Apostles and we KNOW that they weren't all related.
Your problem, as always, is that you're a Scriptural literalist and know next to nothing about 1st century Jewish culture.
There is not ONE single verse of Scripture that states Mary had "other" children. If there were - certainly you could name some of them . . .
No, Jesus makes a unity, YOU make a distinction. His mother, bothers and sisters who do the will of God are models of faith for the rest of us who are trying. Unless you want to argue that His mother didn't do the will of God, and Jesus climbed out of an alien space ship.Stranger said:BreadOfLife
Well, Mark Twain said it best. You got three kinds of lies. First is 'lies'. Second is 'damn lies'. And third is 'statistics'. What a dog and pony show you can do with statistics.
Pay attention to the Scriptures. Throughout (Matthew 1-12)Christ's disciples were always called, 'disciples' or 'apostles'. Thus the distinction in (Matt. 12:46) is clear. It is His mother Mary, and His brothers born from Mary that are being addressed.
Else why would Christ make the distinction in (12:50) when He said, "For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother"?
The only answer can be because it is His fleshly mother and brothers that were being addressed.
Stranger
Not only does Scripture disagree with you (Luke 1:34) - NOWHERE does it ever say that Mary had other kids.Stranger said:I just showed you the Scriptures that state that Mary had other children. (Matt. 12:46-50)
You think Mary and Joseph never had sex after they were married? You think Joseph was a perpetual virgin also? How ridiculous. Mary had sex with Joseph after Christ was born. And she did so many times. Which is why Christ had brothers. All of which was under the blessing of God. The bed is undefiled in marriage. (Heb.13:4)
Stranger
Mary is being spoken of in that verse.Stranger said:BreadOfLife
Who is 'mother' in (Matt.12:46)?
And, was Joseph a virgin also for the rest of his marriage to Mary?
Stranger