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Jacob I LOVED - Esau I HATED

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by n2thelight, Jan 22, 2007.

  1. n2thelight

    n2thelight Well-Known Member

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    A Good Read IndeedNOTE: This is a very tough subject that has been badly used, and abused. Therefore I feel it necessary to give a brief explanation of how I happen to come into this incredible Truth. I also want it clearly understood that I am in no way wanting to bring disrepute to the true House of Judah. I am quite aware that The House of Israel is to be "joined together in UNITY" with The House of Judah.In the mid 70's, I undertook an end depth research / study of the "anti-Messiah Conspiracy" present in the earth, but behind the scenes. I was shocked at what I was learning. Suddenly, a realization hit me square in the face. Behind every organization, every facet of this "New World Order", there were "Jews". Even more startling was the fact that the "Jewish Bankers" in this nation had financed not only the Bolshevik Revolution, but even Hitler's rise to power in Germany. It put me on my face before Jah. I told Him if the "Jews" were His chosen people, He chose the wrong ones.He then brought Rev 2:9 and 3:9 to my attention. This is where Jahshuwah states that there are those claiming to be "Jews", but are NOT "Jews", and are liars. That it is these that are the "Church" of Satan, and therefore worshippers and followers of him. I was wiped out. Yet I could not reject what I was seeing. No wonder they were behind the entire "anti-Christ" conspiracy to rid the earth of "Christianity"; working to establish the end day "anti-Christ" empire, and to bring forth the "Pure worship of Lucifer".I began seeking Jah on this and asked Him, "Oh Father, who are these people?" I sure enough found out. They are NOT HIS CHOSEN, but SATAN'S!!! The carnal minds of people that believes EXACTLY OPPOSITE of The Truth, had been programmed to believe that Satan's chosen WERE JAH'S CHOSEN. What an incredible revelation this was, and is one that is enough to boggle anyone's mind.I was publishing a periodical at the time. One of my subscribers who lived in Buffalo New York, wrote me and asked what my position was concerning the people of Rev. 2:9 & 3:9. I about jumped out of my skin. How Jah answered my prayers time after time, in my seeking of Truth. Here was another. I wrote him back and told him where I was on this subject, and asked if he could teach me about it. Boy, did he. Talk about having a great struggle with coming into a new Truth. How my ego was taken to the cross by this one.There is a saying. It goes, "The capacity of the human mind to resist the intrusion of new knowledge, IS INFINITE".How true it is. I have hung it on the wall in my office to remind me of my own resistance.From this, much unfolded, including the identity of True Israel. When I realized how blind I had been, I stopped writing altogether for over ten years. If I was that blind, I had no business writing anything. It took me that length of time to become established in what I was seeing. This whole thing is a tough bean to chew. Especially with what is being taught against it. I had to prove to myself who was telling the Truth.I studied not only the Word, but everything that I could get my hands on. In that search, I found a comment by George L. Robinson in my fundamentalist Study Bible. I was astounded. I could only think something like, "Good grief. Where have we all been?" I enter it for you here. Remember, this is not stated by some far out nut, but a man respected by "Fundamental Christianity" for his knowledge. "The Zionists are NOT Jews according to RACE. Rather, they are the DESCENDANTS of a HOARD OF PAGANS who pressed into Russia in the first century of our era and in due time became PROSELYTES of Judaism. In 692 A.D., they formed the Khazar Kingdom. In 955 A.D., Russia conquered them. They are neither JEWS BY RACE , nor are the GENUINELY JEWISH IN RELIGION . They PASS THEMSELVES OFF AS JEWS , AND PRETEND that they are descendants of ISRAEL , and therefore, have RIGHT TO PALESTINE as their homeland, but they are FALSE IN THEIR CLAIMS AND ARE IRRELIGIOUS in their living. The ORTHODOX Jews who have long been settled in Hebron, Jerusalem, Tiberias, and Safed, DO NOT WELCOME THEM to the Holy Land. Orthodox and Reformed Jews alike DISCLAIM ALL SYMPATHY WITH THEM, and DISOWN THEM ." (For further proof of this, see the Editorial, "Orthodox Jews Protest Against Zionism".) In this article, you will learn who these "pretenders" are, and what a story it is. You will come to the understanding of why the "ruling Jews" in Palestine today are HATERS OF Jahshuwah, and certainly not being used by Jah for anything mighty. They are of the same ancestry of Esau as in the days of Jahshuwah, when He called them serpents, and offspring of serpents, and told them flat out that their father was the Devil. These were the one's that instigated His CRUCIFIXION!There IS a great hoax that has been perpetrated upon the minds of Jah’s people concerning what is taking place in Palestine today. Few are aware of this hoax, for they have fallen prey to “The Deceiver of The Whole Earth”, whereby they are giving support to his plans, rather than applying themselves to DESTROYING THEM. Aiding and abetting the enemy is the act of TREASON, and that judgment for committing such is fast upon us. Because there are so many “Serpent Ministries” in “Counterfeit Christianity” propagating this hoax, people just gullibly suck it in while NEVER picking up their Bible to study it for themselves. Being gullible is our worst enemy. We are told that we MUST support the “Jews” in Palestine, or Jah will bring judgment upon us as a nation. People, Judgment is ALREADY UPON THIS NATION, and partly upon us because WE ARE supporting them!What is known by few is that what is happening in Palestine today is the fulfillment of Prophecy, but NOT the "Prophesied Re-Gathering of ISRAEL to the Promised Land". It is the "evil figs" of Jeremiah, and the "evil fig tree" that Jahshuwah cursed. Jahshuwah was NOT cursing His own people, but those that Jah hates, and that as you will see, is Esau. Jahshuwah only did the will of the Father, and Jah had already established a “cursed seed line’ with the cursing of Canaan. Esau married into this cursed seed line, and his descendants thereby became the “Sons of Perdition”, meaning the family of eternal ruin. This “cursed seed” has been called by Satan to bring forth his NWO, or end time “Anti-Christ Beast System”.The parable of THE fig tree is referring to ONE fig tree. This is most assuredly true. The only question is, WHICH fig tree is He referring to in the parable??? If you will take the whole of chapters 21 through 24 in context, you will see the “fig tree” of the parable is referring to the one He had JUST CURSED!!! Jahshuwah did not teach with a confused mind out of disconnected scripture like most are dong in this day. He was very logical, and orderly. He did not curse an “evil fig tree” one day, and then prophesy about another “fig tree” the next day. In that discourse He says, “Verily I say unto you, if ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done”. He is clearly connecting the casting of “THIS MOUNTAIN into the sea” with the evil fig tree. Mountain means AUTHORITY. The evil fig tree is the “Edomites”, the chosen people of Satan. Anyone who will take the time to do an intense study of the NWO and all that is involved with it, will find that these “Edomite Counterfeit Jews” are the ones behind it ALL, and therefore ruling it. This IS Satan’s WORLD AUTHORITY on this earth, even as Jah’s chosen are to bring forth HIS AUTHORITY on this earth. Jahshuwah “cursed” this evil fig tree, and taught us that we are to cast this WORLD AUTHORITY into the sea, meaning we are to RID THE EARTH OF IT, and certainly NOT give support to it. If we give support to these vipers, we are committing the act of HIGH TREASON!!! Who IS giving support to these Edomite Counterfeit Jews? All of “Counterfeit Christianity” that is filled with the “Serpent Ministries”. They are doing exactly as prophesied. Instead of causing Jah’s people to establish HIS Kingdom on this earth, they are causing them through great deception to establish the KINGDOM OF ANTI-CHRIST. For a more thorough understanding of this, you might also read: http://www.meguiar.addr.com/Destruction_of_US.htm I ask the most of you that read these pages, why is Jezebel’s “Whorish Christianity”, which we know is lying to the people, supporting the “Jews” in Palestine? There is NO Truth IN HER. Why would she lead people to support them if they ARE REALLY Jah’s True Chosen people??? She HATES Jah’s chosen, and is certainly not going to have her “Serpent Ministries” preaching to support them. They were in power in Christ's day, and are the ones in power in Palestine today. They ARE a cursed people and will NEVER bear the fruit of their desires. This is why there is so much conflict in the area. The "cursed fig tree" has sprouted forth as in the parable, but it is NOT Jah's people, the "good fig tree" that has sprouted, but SATAN'S, the "cursed fig tree". There has yet to be ANY re-gathering of Jah's Chosen to the Promised Land. The first mention of the TRUE re-gathering is found in Duet 30. Moses has just told the Israelites that they would fail, and be driven out of the Promised Land. Then he tells them when they will be re-gathered. If you read it carefully, you will see how it correlates with our being gathered from wherever we might be, caught up with Christ, and our being changed from the corruptible, to the incorruptible."And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among ALL THE NATIONS, whither I, Jah, hath DRIVEN THEE , and shalt return unto Jah your Elohim, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; that THEN Jah will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will RETURN and gather thee from ALL THE NATIONS , whither Jah hath scattered thee. If any of thine be driven out unto the OUTMOST PARTS OF HEAVEN , from thence will Jah GATHER THEE, and from thence will he fetch thee: and Jah will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers." Have you or I, or any other Israelite (member of the House of Israel) been re-gathered to the Promised Land??? If not, then neither has the re-gathering to the Promised Land taken place.Now listen to what Ezekiel says in 37:12-14 & 23. With what you already know, when does this take place??? "Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith Jah; Behold, O my people, I will OPEN YOUR GRAVES , and cause you to come up out of your graves , and BRING (gather) YOU INTO THE LAND OF ISRAEL. And ye shall know that I am Jah, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, and shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I SHALL PLACE YOU IN YOUR OWN LAND " . . . . . ."Neither shall they defile themselves ANY MORE with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with ANY of their transgressions: but I will save them out of ALL their DWELLING PLACES, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them so shall they be my people, and I will be their God." The re-gathering to Israel takes place clearly at the "first resurrection" when the "dead shall arise". This is when we are changed from the corruptible, into the incorruptible. There is NO other way to be without the capability to sin!!!The Return of Jahshuwah, the opening of the graves, the being changed from the corruptible into the incorruptible, and our being gathered back to the Promised Land, all take place at the same time!!! Therefore, Israel is NOT re-gathered unto the Promised Land until THE RETURN OF Jahshuwah!!! Anyone who says otherwise is LYING. Maybe doing so in ignorance, but still guilty. If what I am saying is not so, then please explain the above scriptures to me.Paul was steeped in his knowledge of the scriptures. The only scripture he had in that day is what we today erroneously call "The Old Testament". If this was not where he got his revelation from concerning our being changed, and gathered unto Jahshuwah, then show me where he got it. I have said for a very long time to no avail, if we are not unfolding our beliefs from the entire Word starting with Genesis and all that Moses prophesied, WE ARE IN ERROR! Do you see why??? Is your mind spinning??? I hope so.Many terrible things have been committed with the perversions of what I have laid out. I want no identity with any of those tragic matters. Still, Truth is Truth, and it matters not what the deceiver of the whole earth does to bring ridicule or discredit to a key issue. When I find a Truth, I must walk in it. I have no choice, and neither does anyone else.Do you see how knowing who the House of Israel is changes the perspective of prophecy??? So does this concerning knowing who Satan's Chosen People are!Now, Let's get into the "Rest of The Story".Read the whole article herehttp://www.meguiar.addr.com/Jacob_Esau.htm
     
  2. Christina

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    I may be totally misunderstanding what your point is but I'm understanding you to say that Israel of today who we think of as the Jews.Are not Gods chosen people but they are claiming to be Jews but are not. Is this is right and is this what you are saying? , For one thing I don't think we can as of yet fully understand the statement of "those that claim to be Jews and are not". We know the kennites have been at work sense the begining.Yes I agree that Jews will believe the Anti-christ is their expected messiah.But (and this is a large BUT) this part of Gods plan to bring the Jews, who have been under a stupor,to Christ (this is the time of the gentile)It is also the Jews who realize that the Anti-christ is not Christ.When he comits the abomination. So they will make a " PRE-destined/(known by him) by God" error in believing anti-christ yes. This is a tough love lesson to stubborn Jews who refuse to believe in Gods word, Not a condemnation of their souls. To draw a conclusion and to call that them Satans choosen people is completely out of context in Gods plan.When Anti-christ comes and the Jews accept him and the whole world is following after him (anti-christ)I think it possible that is when many people will be claiming to be Jews (who are not) to find favor with the anti-chrst(whom they will believe to be Christ) I think that is when this statement "call themselves Jews and are not" will come to its full fruition. Even though it has been in the works through the Kennites from the start.Not just some hidden in the depths of history facts as you are purposingIf I am misunderstanding your point please clarify your bottom line here without all the links and historical reasons why you came to this conclusion.
     
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    This study and thread reminded me immediately of the following verse: Deuteronomy 5:32Ye shall observe to do therefore as the LORD your God hath commanded you: ye shall not turn aside to the right hand or to the left. My advice here is to listen to the Bible in this matter. We know from Biblical verse that the Kenites, the literal synagogue of satan, are amongst us and work daily. I think you have to be very, very careful with our brother Judah and how you go about finding the real house of Judah. The Kenites are there, but all Jews are certainly not Kenites. Conversely, this goes for the other side of the coin, again you absolutely must be careful. Simply because the term Jew or Judah is applied does not make one to be that. Whilewe should stand by and minister to our brother Judah, let God's will be done here on Earth and don't become enamoured with modern day Israel. The Kenites are tough in a way to discern. However, you will know them by what they do and the fruits of their labors. Again, be careful and remember what the Bible says.
     
  4. n2thelight

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    Who are the so-called "Jews" of today?A reasonable question answered from logic and historic fact The word Jew comes from a Greek word meaning descendent of the tribe of Judah, or someone living in the land of Judea. Today's Jews call themselves Jews to falsely imply that they are somehow descendent from the Biblical tribe of Judah. When asked the question, "Who is Israel? - Who is a Jew?", the Israeli Government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) unhesitatingly answered thus [emphasis added]:The term Israelite is purely Biblical.An Israeli is a citizen of Israel, regardless of religion.A Jew is a person anywhere in the world born to a Jewish mother, or converted to Judaism, who is thus identified as a member of the Jewish people and religion. -- Information Division, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Jerusalem; Feb, 1998."Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew." Or to call a contemporary Jew [an] "Israelite," or a "Hebrew." The first Hebrews may not have been Jews at all, and contemporary Palestinians, by their own definition of the term "Palestinian," have to include Jews among their own people."--The Jewish Almanac, Oct., 1980, page 3, Bantam Books, Inc. Under a headline entitled... 'Identity Crisis'.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So in the Bible when you see someone referred to as a "Jew" it could mean a 'good' one like Jesus Christ who was a descendant of the Patriarch Judah on His mother's side, OR, it could mean a 'bad' one like the Jews that sought to kill Jesus Christ:Acts 2:5 (good)5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. (KJV)John 7:1(bad)1 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him. (KJV) My point here is that just because you see someone called a "Jew" in the Bible does not necessarily mean that they are a devote chosen man of God, nor, necessarily an evil person with corrupt religion. You have to take each one in context of the Scripture, the Scripture will let you know which kind of 'Jew' is being spoken about. the Ok, let’s take a brief overview of who were God’s chosen people all throughout the Biblical narrative. At first the faithful of God were born into family lines (Israel), but then after Jesus Christ came, all could be grafted into the family of the faithful and saved. See {Rom 11:13-26}. I will not further condemn the Rapture theory in this study save to now say that it is probably responsible for as much, if not more, misunderstanding of God’s Word among Christians than even the idolatrous Catholic Church. Peace to you and let us start our study at the beginning to understand the end:-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the sixth day God CREATED all the peoples, tribes, races, ethnics (ethnos’), on the earth (White, Black, Hispanic, Oriental, ...), male AND female He CREATED them. God saw that they were all VERY good {Gen 1:31}, and He rested on the seventh day. On the next day (the eighth) God FORMED Adam in the Garden of Eden (and took Eve from him) for a very special reason. The peoples of the earth, all the different peoples, were incapable of living up to God’s standards of sinlessness. So God FORMED Adam to be the great Patriarch of the redemption of mankind. And 4000 years later, from Eve, umbilical cord through umbilical cord would be born Mother Mary, through who, by the gifting of the Holy Spirit of God would be born the Messiah of ALL MANKIND who would believe upon Him. Jesus was the Son of God in the strictest genealogical way. For God FORMED Adam (‘eth ha-adaam = this very particular man Adam) in His own express image. Then from that man Adam God made Eve. So as we see, they were both in that 'likeness' of God even though one be male and one be female, they were become one in marriage. Then through time and 4000 years of childbirth within that family unit: From Adam to Eve to Able who was killed, then to Seth...Eber (Hebrews name came from him)...Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (name changed to Israel by God)...Judah & Levi...David...Mother Mary - would be born the Messiah Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit of God. Jesus was one unbroken physical seed from God {Gen 3:15}. It is this Jesus that is the Savior to the world, not only Israel from Adam, but also the gentiles from the sixth day creation. Look at it this way: God through Adam through Eve through Mother Mary + the Holy Spirit of God = Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh (Emmanuel - God with us). In the Old Testament we had a man in Christ’s genealogy named Eber {Gen 11:16} (spelled Heber in N.T. {Luke 3:35}). From him we get the name Hebrews. Then in the process of time, through Heber’s family we came to Abraham, who begat Isaac, who begat Jacob. Now God changed Jacob’s name to Israel and he had 12 sons. These twelve sons are the Patriarchs (founding fathers) of the Twelve Tribes of Israel. There was no such thing as Israel in the Bible until these twelve sons were born (approx. 1775-1728 B.C.). And God changes Jacob's name to Israel in (Gen 32:28 - approx.1739 B.C.). So prior to this the family of Adam (Formed in 4004 B.C.) was God’s chosen and it was they whom through the promise was to come. And by 'chosen' I mean that through them God would save ALL peoples. God loves all His children! Please do not read racism or anti-Semitism into this, there is no racism or anti-Semitism with God’s Word, but satan so loves to plant seeds of discord, so resist the temptation to be used in this manner (race baiting).In the process of time these Twelve Tribes had a rift, and the split into two Kingdoms:The Southern Kingdom:Consisted of two of the tribes (Judah and Benjamin) and were called Judah with their capital in Jerusalem.Judah punished:Because of idolatry, God also punished Judah, and the Two Tribe Southern Kingdom Judah was taken into captivity by the Babylonians. In 477 B.C.* Nebuchadnezzar took Jerusalem and destroyed the Temple of God (the same location of the Temple Mount in modern Israel). At this time there are still no Jews, there is only the Kingdom of Judah. ‘Jew’ is a term that we will explain later, but for now understand that it is a religious designation and not a national identifier. In other words, contrary to popular misconception, you are not born a Jew but become one by that particular brand of religion (Judaism). More on that later. [ *all dating as per Companion Bible by E.W. Bullinger] The Northern Kingdom:Consisting of the other Ten Tribes were called Israel and their capital was at Samaria.Israel punished:Because of idolatry, God punished Israel, and The Ten Tribe Israel nation was taken into captivity by the Assyrians and Israel became a province of Assyria in 611 B.C.* and the people Israel dropped out of the Biblical narrative and profane history as well for the most part. They became not a people (lo-ammi). In the process of time SOME of the Kingdom of Judah were allowed to return to Jerusalem, most did not. So this small contingent of the Tribe of Judah stayed in Jerusalem and intermarried with the Babylonians, as well as the Edomites (sons of Esau Jacob/Israels’s brother by Isaac) and the Kenites (sons of Cain, which was the son of the serpent/satan {Gen 3:15}). These formed their own religion that was much different than the Old Testament religion of the Hebrews. These who are now called "Jews" added to the Old Testament Scriptures their own "Oral Law" called Talmud. This of course was a corruption of God’s Old Testament religion and the work of satan. It is these Jews that were in control of the Temple during Christ’s time, it is them that Christ so often chastised and rebuked, it is them that Jesus told:John 8:4444 Ye are of [progeny; Greek word #1537 ek (out of)] your father the devil [satan - the serpent in the Garden of Eden], and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning [Cain - Kenites], and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it [satan/serpent uttered first lie (Gen 3:4)]. (KJV) And it is them that killed the Son of God Jesus Christ by forcing the hand of pagan Rome. So today, when someone calls themselves a Jew they most likely aren’t, they are just ignorant to the preceding events. Not all of Israel or Judah are Jews and none of the Jews are Israel or Judah. It is these Jews that are in large number in modern day Israel (though there are also some true Judah and Israel there as well - they should be properly called Hebrews not Jews - but they don’t know this, it has been kept from them, they don’t know who they are, they have been betrayed by their parents ... parents ... parents). But all can be saved through Christ Jesus! So in a perversion of truth, these Jews call themselves the chosen of God but in fact are the offspring of Judah that intermarried with the heathen peoples and formed their own perverted religion that disobeys God at almost every turn. The Jewish Anti Defamation League (among others) has suppressed this type of information and labels those who teach it as "anti-Semitic" or "racist" to discredit them, hide the truth, and proliferate the apostasy away from God (though some racists take this teaching and equally in ignorance use it in hate, we are not among that group). But the term "anti-Semetic" is itself a misnomer, for those called "Jews" have very little if any Semitic blood in their veins and they have apostate into heathen religion and forsook God. They have more blood of Cain (Kenites) and the Edomites (Esua - Khazer Jews of Russia) in their veins than blood of Israel or true Judah for that matter. Call it the fox in the hen house if you will. But NOT ALL HEBREW PEOPLE ARE JEWS, in fact, very very very few Hebrew peoples became Jews, and true Israel and true Judah know not who they are. Ok, so what happened to Israel, the Ten Tribe Northern Kingdom? Did they die off? God forbid, for had they, then God’s Word would have failed, for God promised Abraham that his seed should be as the sand of the sea for multitude:Gen 32:9-129 And Jacob said, O God of my father Abraham, and God of my father Isaac, the LORD which saidst unto me, Return unto thy country, and to thy kindred, and I will deal well with thee................(Gen 32:12) And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. (KJV) Well, there are only 13 million Jews on the Planet of over 6 billion people (less that one percent) so where is the multitude as the sand of the sea? Did God make a mistake, or lie to Abraham in the Covenant? Of course not!!! This is not possible, God cannot lie {Titus 1:2}! Below we shall show where Israel is today, and we will also clarify who Judah is and the Kenites and the Gentiles. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the Bible, who Are The People Of The House Of Israel,the House Of Judah, The Jews, And The Kenites?The difference between the peoples of Israel, Judah, the Jews, and the Kenites (the sons of Cain, the first murderer) First of all, when studying Biblical history and prophecy, you mustn't confuse the House of Israel with the House of Judah. When you see the 'House of Israel' written of in the scriptures, it refers to the Ten Northern Tribes of Israel (now referred to as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel). But when you see the 'House of Judah' spoken of, it refers to the Southern Kingdom consisting of peoples of the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin. Originally, when the Houses were still joined together, there were twelve Tribes. These Twelve Tribes became split into two Houses, one called the Northern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Samaria, and the other called the Southern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Jerusalem. To this very day they are split, with the Ten Northern tribes having lost all knowledge of their identity, as was prophesied of to happen in Scripture:Rom 11:2525 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (KJV) But what ever became of Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel)? After a three years siege and the final fall of Samaria with it's becoming of an Assyrian Province in 611 B.C. (722 B.C. by profane history), Israel ceased to be and dropped out of history. But Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes) were never lost to God, they migrated North over the Caucasus Mountains (where we get our word 'Caucasian' from) and settled Europe, eventually populating Scotland, Ireland, Britain, Iceland, and ultimately crossing westward over the seas and established the Americas. Yes we are the descendants of the lost Northern Ten Tribes of Israel. We are the chosen people of God. Look around the world, who is the last light of hope in the world? That does not mean that we are Jewish, for as you see by the division of the original 12 tribes descended from Jacob/Israel; Judah is only one of those twelve tribes, and Jews are only a small portion of them who mixed with the heathen both physically and religiously. As of Jan 2, 2000, there are only 13 million Jews on the planet (as per www.adherents.com), that is less than 1% of the total global population which is 6,099,686,302 (6 billion plus) as of 4:04 EDT Oct 1, 2000 per Popclock™. But in God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob He promised:Gen 13:1616 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. (KJV)Gen 17:44 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. (KJV)Gen 28:1414 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. (KJV)Gen 35:1111 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; (KJV)Gen 32:1212 And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. (KJV) Rom 9:2727 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: (KJV) You do believe God don't you? I know you do. Well then, where are all these people now?!? Those that we now call 'Jews' today are only a portion of the true Tribe of Judah who have intermixed with their Babylonian captors, the heathen and profane descendants of Cain, the first murderer. In other words, all those of the tribe of Judah are not Jews, and none of the lost Ten Tribes are Jews. It is important to understand the differences so that you know who the Bible is speaking about in a particular verse. That is why in the New Testament, those who betrayed Christ and forced Pontius Pilot's hand into crucifying Jesus Christ were the High Jewish Priest Ca'-ia-phas and the Jewish Temple Hierarchy. They were corrupted both in morals and genealogy, and this explains why Jesus called them 'sons of Cain,' the son of the devil {Jn 8:44} whom was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Cain was not of the 12 tribes of Jacob (Israel and Judah combined), but his offspring, the Kenites, which means sons (offspring, no gender implied) of Cain, had intermixed with some of the true Tribe of Judah. These Kenites have mixed with all races and tribes of people on the earth. A Kenite is a descendant of Cain, the same Cain who was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Below is a definition from the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance:Kenite: Hebrew word #7017 Qeyniy (kay-nee'); or Qiyniy (1st Chron. 2:55) (kee-nee'); patronymic from Hebrew word #7014 (see below); a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin [Cain]:Cain: Hebrew word #7014 Qayin: As a proper noun, masculine: Cain = "possession"; the oldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer, having murdered his brother Abel.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"...and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name..." {Isa 62:2} The Old Testament Prophets told that God would change the name of His people. They would be named after Him. And by the name "Christians" they were named after God. Jesus, which in the Hebrew language is: Yehoshua, which means: Yehovah’s (God’s) Savior, Salvation of Yehovah (God). And with Christ, His followers are called Christ men, hence: Christians. So then, in the New Testament prophecies in the book of Revelation, Christians are Israel, God’s chosen, called by a new name (Isa 62:2 below), called by His name - Jesus Christ - Christ men - Christians.Isa 62:22 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. (KJV)Isa 62:1212 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken. (KJV)Isa 65:1515 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name (KJV)Jer 33:1616 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness. (KJV)Acts 11:2626 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. (KJV) This should clear up Revelation chapter seven where the 144,000 "sealed of Israel" are mentioned, they are Christians who, since the Assyrian captivity and deportations of 611 B.C. were stripped of their name Israel! As it is written, because of idolatry, God caused Israel to not know who they are, and the rest of the world is also ignorant as to who true Israel is today:Deut 32:26 (God speaking)26 I said, I would scatter them [Israel] into corners [all corners of the world], I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men (KJV) They (Israel) are mentioned in the New Testament though, for example, the book of James is written to them, written to us: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." {James 1:1}. And again: "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." {1 Pet 1:1-2}.Do you know who you are? God Bless!
     
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    Hosea Chapter 1"Symbolical (Introversion and Alternations.)"This Bible Study is written by Roger Christopherson, and made available with written permission by http://www.theseason.orgHosea, like the rest of the eleven minor Prophets, were classified as "Minor" because of the short length of their writings. The major and minor prophets are equally inspired by God.In all Hebrew manuscripts, and Hebrew printed Bibles, the twelve minor prophets are printed in unbroken sequences; and are all considered as one book. This is the same as the twelve tribes ("dodeka" is twelve, "phule" is tribes) all were one nation.The twelve books are divided into twenty one "Sedarin" and were used for public readings. Hosea 1:1, to 5:15 is the first reading; 6:1 through 10:11 is the second, 10:12 through 14:6 was the third reading, and 14:7-8, and 9 were part of the Joel chapters.Six of these minor prophets are dated and six are not. Thus you have a division into two groups.The book of Hosea was given by prophetic utterance, and the key to understanding the words spoken are from God directly, or of the thoughts of the prophet personally are "The word of the Lord by", "Hear the word of the Lord spoken by", or "the burden of the word of the Lord." This continues through out all the books of the minor prophets.Hosea was a prophet speaking to all 12 tribes. The 10 tribes of the "The House of Israel", was the Northern Kingdom, and the 2 tribes of "The House of Judah". was the Southern Kingdom, they were given good news by Hosea. The prophecy was given in the time of the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah; they were the Kings of the "House of Judah" (Judah).The time of Hosea's prophecy covered seventy two years, from the 14th year of Uzziah, to the start of the reign of Hezekiah.The first chapter of Hosea is a warning by God to the Northern Nation’s, the 10 tribes or "House of Israel." Their capitol is Samaria, and God is telling them, they are about to have a terrible end. Their nation is about to be destroyed, and separated from God.This falling away has come about by their worshipping of idols (the two golden calf's) and many other forms of idolatry and fornication.Hosea 1:1 "The word of the LORD that came unto Hosea, the son of Beeri, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Herekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.The name Hoses" means Salvation, and by tradition, the name "Beeri" is attached to the tribe of Reuben (1 Chronicles. 5:6).Hosea 1:2 "The beginning of the word of the LORD by Hosea, And the LORD said to Hosea, Go, take unto thee a wife of whoredoms and children of whoredoms: for the land hath committed great whoredom, departing from the LORD."This is the start of many prophecies, and by fifteen different prophets, to prophecy against the "House of Israel".The "wife of whoredoms", is because the Northern nation refused to worship God, God's way. To worship at His altar, at His temple, in Jerusalem. Israel was divided into two nations following king Solomon's death. The name of Israel stayed with the majority of the tribes, for back in Genesis 48, Jacob told Joseph his name was "Israel" and would always be on the head of his, "Joseph's", son Ephraim.Judah, or "The house of Israel fell into calf worship, and all forms of idolatry, Judah held fast the worshipping of the one true God, Jehovah, in God's temple in Jerusalem.The religious forms of Israel are considered a "Woman", and all those worshipping them are considered idolatries.The subject of this chapter is the idolatries of the Northern Kingdom, and the children, or offspring of the people of that kingdom. This woman is an idolatrous. The "Land" is "eretz" in the Hebrew, meaning "earth." The people on that land committed these sin.Hosea 1:3 "So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim; which conceived, and bare him a son."God ordered Hosea to go and marry a *****, "Take thee a wife of whoredoms", in verse 2. Hosea went and did exactly as God commanded them to do. His wife's name was Gomer, and in the Hebrew meaning completion. She was the daughter of Dibiaim, which in the Hebrew has two meanings; a double cake of figs, and also is symbolical of sensual pleasure.This, again, is an object lesson to Israel of what God is about to do to them. So pay close attention to names and events. It is not directed to the House of Judah, the Jews.Hosea 1:4 "And the LORD said unto him, "Call his name Jezreel: for yet a little while, and I will avenge the blood of Jezreel upon the house of Jehu, and will cause to cease the kingdom of the house of Israel."The name "Jezreel" in the Hebrew, is prophetic of a coming judgment. Note the Hebrew word, also "Paronomsia" means "Repetition in sound, but not in sense. "Jezreel" then is God's first warning to the "House of Israel" and states that a prophetic judgment is about to come upon them. At the proper time. It is God who will avenge Israel for her wickedness and idolatry. God said "I will cause the House of Israel to cease". That means no more are they going to exist as a nation, or be identified with God, as God's people. This is not directed to the Jews, only to the 10 tribes. King Jehu, the "House of Jehu", carried out God's judgment on the House of Ahab", and committed murder. What Jehu did was not God's will, but a power grab. He then continued in the same idolatries as Ahab's Kingdom followed.So Hosea's first son's named, "Jezreel" is God telling Israel in symbolic form, that He is about to scatter them (see also Jere. 31:10); and they will not exist as a nation anymore.Hosea 1:5 "And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Israel in the valley of Jezreel."In reference to "That day", is the day Israel was overthrown, and carried away by the Assyrian's. It is recorded in II Kings 18:11.The "Bow" is "Metonymy" in the Hebrew (of the adjunct). It means "Bow" is substituted for everything representing "The house of Israel" as a nation. Their army, government, language, religion, and what ever else identifies them is belonging to the "House of Israel."It shall and did come to pass as God spoke it, most of all the offspring of the "House of Israel" have no idea who they are or how they are attached. Yet God's prophecies of these end times is saturated with the "House of Israel" in their lands, and dealt separately from the Jews.One key in understanding who they are is in the word "Caucasian", it is that race of people who migrated through the Caucasus Mountains, and spread out throughout the Western Europe, later to the Americas, and colonizing into nations around the world. They came through the Caucasus Mountains at exactly the same historical time as the "House of Israel" was dismantled by God's servants, the Assyrian's, and taken to an area just south of these mountains.Hosea 1:6 "And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, "Call her name Lo-ruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away."Hosea and Gomer have a second child, a daughter, and God told Hosea to call her name "Lo-ruhamah": which means "not compassionated", or "not beloved". This is why Paul in Romans 9:25 used the expression "not having obtained mercy, with respect to the "House of Israel"The "house of Israel", on Israel (not Jews) were utterly dismantled, as any remembrance of being God's people. They were so scattered they forgot who they were.Hosea 1:7 "But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, not by horsemen."Verse seven is not a "interpolation", or "Inserting of new material" into the subject but rather a clarification that God is going to handle and treat Israel, and Judah separately from now on. Israel, God is going to divorce, while Judah He is not. Israel, and Judah are dealt with separately from now on. God will have "No mercy" (Lo-ruhamah) on Israel; while He will show mercy of Judah, even through Judah's captivity in Babylon. "By the Lord their God", is a commitment of Jehovah to Judah.Hosea 1:8 "Now when she weaned Lo-ruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.Hosea 1:9 "Then said God, "Call his name Lo-ammi" for ye are not My People, I will not be your God.""Lo-Ammi" in Hebrew means "Not my people." Remember this chapter, as the book, is a symbolic gesture, using Hosea's family as a reminder of what God is going to do, and latter did, to the House of Israel" (not the Jews).In the Hebrew text, God told Israel, "I am not (I am) to you." I am is God's eternal name. God disclaims any ownership of Israel."Lo-Ammi" is Hosea's third child, and through these three children, God has sent His message to Israel; "Jezreel" means, God will cease their Kingdom, "Lo-Ruhamah" means , God will not have compassion on their people; and "Lo-Ammi" means, you are not my people.Hosea 1:10 "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured not numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, We are not My People," there it shall be said unto them, "Ye are the sons of the living GOD."This verse is directed to the latter days; The generation we are in now. It is talking only of the "House of Israel" (Children of Israel) and not Judah.Today the Jews are numbered, and in World War 11, the Germans reduced that number by a large percentage. God is saying here, that you cannot number Israel, so where are Israelites?They are comprise of all the Christian Nations around the world. All Western Europe is comprised of these Israelites; and America. The United States is Manasseh. Our Crest, seal and every thing about us is confirmed by scripture as to the makeup of Manasseh in the final generation.Most of the false ministers are teaching a doctrine which can not exist along side the truth of the word of God; and thus attribute any prophecy directed at Israel, to the Jews. This is why their interpretation of their Bible prophecy never works out.Many Prophets today write books explaining Bible prophecies, yet they rewrite their books, making changes to allow for the part of their prophecy which was untrue. This correction is necessary because their understanding of God's word is built upon man's traditions, and not God's word. They simply do not understand that God dealt with Israel and Judah separately. God divorced Israel, and scattered them. God allowed Israel to grow into many nations in these end times.Today when these Israelites, divorced by God, accept God's salvation message, and come to God through Christ's shed blood, they take on a new identity. They are now called "Christians" and are known as the Son's of God. Though they are Christians, they are still "Israel" with regards to Bible Prophecy, projected ahead to our generation, and living today in Christian Nations wherever those Nations exist."There", in that place, "it shall be said unto (or) them, "ye are the sons of the living God". That name today is "Christian." If you do not understand that those son's of the living God or that (Christians) are Israel in our last generation, then you will be off on all kinds of interpretations regarding the end time prophecy. Judah has a totally different set of prophecies.Judah is, and has returned to Palestine, thus planting the shoot of the Fig Tree that started the countdown in this final generation. Israel does not move back; there are simply to many of them. That is why God told Hosea, "that in the place where I said unto them, ye are not my People.", that place is where ever they happen to call home, England, Canada, the U.S.A. or where ever they are; they are to be the ones to fulfill the prophecies pertaining to "Israel", or the "House of Israel".The two tribes to carry the name Israel, and Abraham's blessing was given to Joseph's two son's. This is recorded in Genesis 48: 14-20. The Scepter, was given to rule, over Israel and was given to Judah. Gen. 49: 8-10.Hosea 1: 11 "Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land; for great shall be the day of Jezreel."This "Day of Jezreel" is also called , the "Day of the LORD". It is the day that Israel will be restored with Judah as one people. We know this has not happened yet, but at the seventh trump, when our Lord Jesus Christ returns, this joining will take place. This is what Romans 11:14-16 is all about , the restoring of Israel.It is important to fix in your mind on this separation of Israel from God, yet in the end God will bring back Israel to Christ, by means of Christ's death on the cross. Remembering that Israel and Judah are dealt with separately. At the seventh Trump the battle of Armageddon is for the protections of Judah in the middle east; while Hamon-Gog (multitude of Gog") is for the protection of Israel. By the description in Obadiah and Ezekiel 38 & 39, I believe Hamon-God will be in Alaska, or Northern Canada.
     
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    Chapter 2 also helps to see thisHosea Chapter 2"The Latter State"This Bible Study is written by Roger Christopherson, and made available with written permission by http://www.theseason.orgHosea 2:1 "Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah."In the Latter days, we do greet our Friends and neighbors in God's name, and call ourselves Christians. "Ammi" means , His (God's ) people.When we see our sister nation's of Israel, we do take compassion (Ruhamah) on them. We wish them "God's speed" when departing, and pray God's blessing upon them."Hosea 2:2 "Plead with your mother, plead: for she is not My wife, neither am I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breast;"Your "Mother" in this prophecy is Gomer, and she represents "the ten tribes personified by their Royal Capital." This is pleading that the Christian Nations will put away their whoredoms, referring to the idolatry and false doctrine. He is reminding them that He has divorced them, and there is only one way back to Him."Adulteries between her breasts", is messing with false gods, and religions in her heart.Hosea 2:3 "Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst."Verse 3 refers to Ezekiel 16:23-43 where at an earlier time Jerusalem had taken in all sorts of wickedness, adultery, idolatry, whoredoms with foreign god's and religions. They gave fees to cover their sins, bribes when they had to have their way.God said, if you don't "put away your whoredoms" (verse 2), I'll turn you over to them, and strip you naked (verse 3). In a spiritual sense, this is exactly what is happening today in the U.S.A. Most Christians are so confused they except the "Babel" of these false doctrines. They coddle sodomy, abortion, the Rapture Theory, and other false religious doctrine presented to them.Hosea 2:4 "And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms."God is saying if you go whoring after these wicked things and false religions, I'll turn your kids over to them also. As they chase after false gods, my mercy will not be on them as it is not on you.It's common for parents to teach their kids, and the kids follow what ever spiritual path their parents take, and they will lead them into false doctrine.Historically this is exactly what happened to the old House of Israel. It is also a warning to Christians in the latter days. We must return to God's word, and teach our children how to study and live according to God's truth.Hosea 2:5 "For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully; for she said, I will go after my lovers, that gave me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink."Go back to (verse 2) and the "mother", Gomer is the symbol used to represent the 10 tribes of the "House of Israel". This is directed to the latter days, as a type of what Israel (the Christian Nations) will be doing just before His (Christ's) return.Israel is playing the harlot today, and this being in a spiritual sense, represents practices of idolatries. Here lovers in the old house of Israel were the religious practices of Baal's. Today we create new forms, doctrines, and methods to inject heathen religions into Christianity, and proclaim it to be of God.Notice, there is no difference in Israel then, as there is today. They sell their souls for the same objects. These three pairs of objects are the downfall of most Christians. The three pairs include food, clothing and luxuries. All are claimed as being from her, the harlot religions.Most ministries today are judged by the money they control; and that money comes through emotional pressure, or financial gimmicks. Promising, that if you send, then God will give. They teach in a manner to draw the money, and not teach the word of God. Yet most Christians fall for their gimmicks. The church world today is becoming starved for truth. Hosea 2:6 "Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths."Hosea uses "behold" (Asterismos in Hebrew) which is used to draw special attention to what God is about to say.God said, "I will", and you can count on it, "hedge up thy way with thorns". That is, make your path rough and very hard to take. God is going to build "stone walls", as stated in the Hebrew, "polyptoton", to block your path.You say you seek God, yet just as Israel went whoring 2700 years ago, Christians today place their souls into pagan religions practices just as they did back then.Hosea 2:7 "And she follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find them:" then shall she say, "I will go and return to my first husband; for then was it better with me than now.""She" is the nation of Israel of Hosea's day, yet this refers to our day as well, and this is latter day prophecies. Historically, God cut Himself off from Israel and scattered them, exactly as He told them He would do. God divorced Israel, and erased their memory of their heritage, It's time for Christian to open their blind eyes to truth of God's word.In this final generation, the Christian Community is chasing all sorts of religious lovers, in their search to find the truth in these end times. The problem is they refuse to read what God's word has to say. They lean to these "One verse Pastors". It seems the collection plate and their pension is the only thing on these false prophets minds.God says if you chase them, He will cut you lose and allow you to believe their lies, such as the rapture doctrine, positive thinking, and other heathen religious forms blended together in order to draw you in, through your ignorance of the scriptures.Hosea 2:8 "For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and god, which they prepared for Baal."All the blessing God gave to Old Israel, those ancient Israel Fathers refused to thank and honor God for them. Instead they threw their blessing at the feet of the whores of pagan religions. It is no different today then it was in Hosea's day. Today America and the rest of the Christian world attributes it's wealth to themselves, and wastes their tithes on the steps of Satan's synagogues. Those Churches teaching their flock to love what God hates (like Sodomy), accepting the Antichrist through false doctrine, and just being lazy about your spiritual armor in these latter days. God says he will seal his chosen the elect, and those 144,000 of Revelation 5 & 6, then He will let Satan and His Locust army have the rest.Just as Assyria was God's servant to carry out God's judgment on Israel; so in their latter days Satan the Antichrist, will administer God's judgment to our generation. Now is the time to wake up !Hosea 2:9 "Therefore will I return, and take away My corn in the time thereof, and My wine in the season thereof, and will recover My wool and My flax given to cover her nakedness."God is warning, "will I return" in judgment. The "corn" is the truth of God's word, and the "wine", is the salvation we have through the shed blood of Jesus Christ on the Cross. The garments are the fine clothing in Christ's Kingdom we will wear that are made up of our righteous acts for God.Now to make it come alive, historically we know that the Assyrian's stripped Israel Naked, in fact physically.However, this is addressed to the children of the latter days. That's our generation. The Christian world (Israel) is duplicating the acts of Old Israel, and God is fed-up with most Christians today.God is saying to us today, if you do not study my word and put on your spiritual armor (Ephesians 6:10-20); and you want to substitute for my way, the blood of Christ; and throw your righteous acts at the feet of idols, and foreign god's; then I will withhold my truth from you (block your understanding), deny you before my father, and your righteousness will become as filthy rags. God will take back what he offered you.Hosea 2:10 "And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of Mine hand."This verse is a double witness to Ezekiel 23:29. Spiritually God will strip you naked, leave you dumb, and blind on all spiritual matters. Then upon His return, your shame will be unbearable, you'll wish to be dead, but you can't because your soul can only be killed by God following the judgment.Hosea 2:11 "I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her Sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts.:"Israel (the Christian world) today has no idea in the world what days were precious to our Lord. God set aside special feast days so the children of Israel would never forget His love, salvation in Egypt, Protection in the wilderness, and many miracles God preformed for His children.Most Christians honor days that are smothered in heather customs.Hosea 2:12 "And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, "These are my rewards that my lovers have given me: "and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them."The word "rewards:" is a technical term (reference Deuteronomy 23:18) for a fee charged for service.Because Israel gave credit to service of their own hands, and fees charged for service and crops, instead of the blessings; God said, I'll destroy her, and lay her to waste. see (Ps. 105:33).If you think what you have is by your hands; God's going to start punching big holes in your money bags. His servants, the "Kenites", are very skilled at taking your money and property. That is the "vine and fig tree" in modern day language.God does not appreciate you throwing gifts away that He has given to you into idolatrous acts, and to false prophets. He would rather the "Kenites" and other "beasts of the field" eat the fruits of your labor, then it be given to idolatry.Hosea 2:13 "And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forget Me. saith the LORD."God said "I will visit", I will remember those days you decked yourself out in fine jewelry and fine apparel, and went to those heathen (Baalim) festivals.Those Sunday morning sunrise services on Easter morning to honor "Ishtar" the God of fertility. You don't remember Passover, but you remember to roll those eggs, a fertility right to Ishtar. In ignorance? yes, but you have no desire to stop traditional heathen customs.Hosea 2:14 "Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortable unto her.""Behold" ; this word is a special reminder to us. God said, because you seek not my word, he is going to dry the truth so you won’t understand, and this is exactly what Joel 1 prophesied, that just before the end time when the Locust army of fallen angels, and Kenites come, the word of God, is free, and understandable. Yet, after their arrival the earth is desolate wilderness, totally void of truth, but full of deception, lies, and confusion. You want to believe lies, and chase harlot religions; then God will give them to you.Hosea 2:15 "And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt."This verse is telling of the hope that exist upon Christ 's return. The time is coming when all eyes will be opened, and those who acted in ignorance, and under false prophets will have their eyes opened.Their "Valley of Achor" (trouble) will become the door of hope, and the singing of the Saint's will be as the singing was, when the children of Israel departed out of Egypt.Hosea 2:16 "And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call Me Ishi; and shalt call Me no more Baali."This day is "the day of the Lord". Christ has returned, Satan is in the pit, and false prophets, Kenites, and all the fallen Angles are bound for the day of Judgment.Israel on that day will not call Christ my Lord, but "Ishi", My husband. All knees on that day will bow to Him as King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.Hosea 2: 17 "For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, they shall no more be remembered in their name."All forms of idolatry, and heathen gods will be gone forever. Satan will have been revealed as the fake, and in the Millennium it will be a time of teaching and discipline.Hosea 2: 18 "And in that day will I made a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and with the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely."This is life in the Millennium, and in that Kingdom the Lord Jesus Christ will make a New Covenant with Israel which will be eternal.This covenant is spoken of in Ezekiel 34:25, and Isaiah 11:6-9. It will be a time of true peace, and full understanding. There will not even be the thought of warfare.Hosea 2: 19 "And I will betroth thee unto Me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto Me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies."Those who betroth themselves to Christ in the Millennium, are those who did not partake of Satan, and his one world system, his name or number. They stood fast. The other ones who fell for the wrong Christ (Antichrist) will not get their spiritual bodies, until after the judgment. Grace is not offered to them, but they come by their righteous acts in the Millennium. Our Lord and Heavenly Father loves all his children, and those misguided will not be judged on the teachings that they are receiving today. However, if they do understand and bow to Satan there is no forgiveness.In that five month period of Revelation 9: 1-10, God will block their minds from understanding to protect their souls. Christ will love his bride, protect, cherish, and show mercy to her as any loving man to his bride.Hosea 2: 20 "I will even betroth thee unto Me in faithfulness; and thou shalt know the LORD."This is a total commitment of God to his bride. Do you know Him. Have you placed your protective armor on to do spiritual battle with Satan? The next world war is a spiritual one.Hosea 2: 21 "And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth;''The restoration of Christ's Kingdom, Israel, comes from, and begins with Jehovah Himself. This is the answer, or response to Zechariah 8:12."They shall hear", the text reads "prosopoporia"; which indicates all of Israel will hear and have full understanding.Hosea 2: 22 "And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel."Jezreel is the seed that God will sow, and reap, as stated in verse 23. God is calling Israel back to him. In that day all of "the House of Israel and Judah alike, will join into one, and represent God's people.Hosea 2:23 "And I will sow her unto Me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not My People, Thou art My People; and they shall say, "Thou art my God."Remember back in chapter one, God told Hosea to name His three children to show in symbolic form how He would disown, divorce and scatter Israel for their idolatrous acts.Well, here in the Millennium, God tells us how He will sow the word in their minds, and draw them back to Him. God is reaching out to them.And please don't feel that I think all Jews are kenites
     
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    SwampFox,This is written ( copied and pasted from first post )'Jahshuwah only did the will of the Father, and Jah had already established a “cursed seed line’ with the cursing of Canaan. Esau married into this cursed seed line, and his descendants thereby became the “Sons of Perdition”, meaning the family of eternal ruin. This “cursed seed” has been called by Satan to bring forth his NWO, or end time “Anti-Christ Beast System”.Who is Jah (?) and if I recall PM said NOAH CURSED CANAAN, God did not curse Canaan.And the only ones judged, at this point of time, is Satan; the son of perdition and the fallen angels. Human beings; kenites, have not been judged at this time and who so ever can believe on the Lord Jesus Christ ( repent) and be saved; as Christ came to save; not condemn. That said, this is yet another "copy and paste" piece of work.Even if this study is legimate; there is way too much information to read and digest in that format. Who is going to read it?Documentation should be easy to read, easy to see.This is very hard to read and my conclusion is that it's meant to be that way.Confusing. It should be written, provided it's truthful, in a way that people will find it easy to read and with documentation to back up statements.In one part, an answered prayer is mentioned; answered prayer is wonderful, however, documentation really hits the spot!
     
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    Agree with Ros's repost of Swampfox's postN2 I asked what your bottom line was without all the links and reasons and instead you give 3x's the information on whatever you are talking about. someday when I got an extra week might read it.but doubt it, Like I said whats your bottom line if anyone has a question about they will ask and you can give your response and reasons for it. But to post all this information supporting you veiw when it isn't even clear what your veiw is or what we are talking about is waste of everyones time.
     
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    Jah was taken from the incorrect translation of Yah by the initial German higher critics. I think it's a statement about the original author and his refusal to use the "Jewish" Yahweh or YHVH(YHWH). This bothers me a bit because it is indeed Yah regardless of how you feel about it personally. Do God the service of getting his name right. It's written that wisdom begins with the the fear (reverence) of God in the book full of wisdom, Ecclesiastes. That being said, this article is a lot to read and digest. I merely scanned the original post and tried to hit the high points. I still stand in the same place as I did before. Knowing n2 and knowing enough about him I am not worried about him, but this is a general warning to be careful on this subject.
     
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    KrissQuote"Agree with Ros's repost of Swampfox's postN2 I asked what your bottom line was without all the links and reasons and instead you give 3x's the information on whatever you are talking about. someday when I got an extra week might read it.but doubt it, Like I said whats your bottom line if anyone has a question about they will ask and you can give your response and reasons for it.But to post all this information supporting you veiw when it isn't even clear what your veiw is or what we are talking about is waste of everyones time."ReplyMy bottom line was to show who the true Israel is today.that was the intent in my original post,Hosea chapters 1 & 2 was posted to support that view along with the post on who are the jews, kenites house of Israel,etc.it actually ties in to another post on the federal reserve.Me personally I did'nt feel the post was to long,for its only a 3 minute read at most,for me anyway,with that said I apologise to all who feel its to long,and I will refrain from doing this in the future.
     
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    My bottom line was to show who the true Israel is today.that was the intent in my original post,Hosea chapters 1 & 2 was posted to support that view along with the post on who are the jews, kenites house of Israel,etc.it actually ties in to another post on the federal reserve.Me personally I did'nt feel the post was to long,for its only a 3 minute read at most,for me anyway,with that said I apologise to all who feel its to long,and I will refrain from doing this in the future.
    There is a remnant and they will rise in due time, while some are awakening even now for the endgame of this age. Brother Paul disclosed that not all who are of Israel are Israel. And the Jew who is born of nature and decended of Abraham can be grafted out, just as those who are not Israel are grafted in and become Israel. If one believes in our Lord and confesses Him, being a natural Jew remains Jew, while those who are outside the camp become a Jew by inward circumcision. This is the teaching of Paul who understood the Lord when He said "For God so loved the world..."Even though one might read what you posted in 3 minutes, it cannot be fully digested by most at the time of the reading.
     
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    Well put servant Even the terrorist that call Jews pigs and Christains dogs are descented from Ishmael who was Jewish we do not now all the mysteries of God and the fact you can find bad Jews in history is a mute fact look at the bloody history of the church all the bad that can be found in it yesterday and today that doesn't prove anything except that the spirit of Satan is at work everywhere.Let us never forget that the Lord was of Jewish descent.
     
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    Well put servant Even the terrorist that call Jews pigs and Christains dogs are descented from Ishmael who was Jewish we do not now all the mysteries of God and the fact you can find bad Jews in history is a mute fact look at the bloody history of the church all the bad that can be found in it yesterday and today that doesn't prove anything except that the spirit of Satan is at work everywhere.Let us never forget that the Lord was of Jewish descent.
    Kriss, Ishmael was not Jewish, or Hebrew. His father was Abraham but he was "cast out". The Hebrew people came from Abrahams seed, Jacob.
     
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    Thanks Tom I stand corrected
     
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