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JOHN 1:14 GRACE AND TRUTH

Discussion in 'Unorthodox Doctrine Forum' started by Doug, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. Doug

    Doug Active Member

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    John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

    1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

    1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    Jesus is God in the flesh.

    Jesus is all grace and truth; it resides in him and is bestowed upon undeserving mankind.

    By grace Jesus shed his blood for the new testament to save Israel for the Davidic kingdom (Jeremiah 31:33 Mark 14:24).

    Although Jesus was sent only to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), God by grace made provision to save the Gentiles also. Peter speaks of the grace that saved them as well as the Gentiles, to all who believed the word preahed unto them (Acts 15:11).

    There is a future grace in which Israel will be a blessing to the Gentile nations in the Davidic kingdom (Isaiah 60:3).

    We have received the grace of God in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 4:7 Romans 5:2) in our dispensation.

    The grace of Christ Jesus has made us accepted in God (Ephesians 1:6).

    We have redemption and the forgiveness of sins through his blood according to the riches of his grace (Ephesians 1:7).

    We have been saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8).
     
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  2. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    It has been said that the Lord Jesus held truth without legalism and grace without compromise. "Full of grace and truth".
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    More of the same old NONSENSE. Even the Messianic Jews would laugh at your interpretations.

    THE WORD OF GOD (JOHN 3)
    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.


    THE HERESY OF DOUG
    16 For God so loved ISRAEL, that he gave his only begotten Son, that ANY JEW WHO believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    17 For God sent not his Son into
    ISRAEL to condemn ISRAEL; but that ISRAEL through him might be saved.
     
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  4. Acolyte

    Acolyte Well-Known Member

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    But He came for Israel, they just wouldn't accept him. We(gentiles), were blessed to be included. Of course our Heavenly Father loves us all. Amen
     
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  5. farouk

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    John 1.11-12:

    "He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

    But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name".
     
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  6. farouk

    farouk Well-Known Member

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    @Acolyte PS: I think it calls for a lot of humility also for those of us from a Gentile background when we consider that it was the circumstance of Israel's partial unbelief that were were ever grafted as well into God's purposes of blessing in Christ.
     
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  7. Enoch111

    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    That's not the point. Jesus came to this earth as the Savior of the world, as well as the Messiah of Israel. Indeed His first converts were Gentile (or semi-Gentile) Samaritans. See John 4. And in fact His first worshippers were Gentile Magi from Arabia!

    The Calvinists claim that He died only for the so-called elect. And if we buy into Doug's theory then Christ died only for Israel, and the Gentiles were a mere afterthought. But that is NOT what the Bible says at all.

    LUKE 2
    25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
    26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
    27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,
    28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,
    29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

    30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,[JESUS]
    31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
    32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

    God had already anticipated the rejection of Christ by Israel: The Stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes. (Ps 118:22,23)... Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the Stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. (Acts 4:10,11)

    So Christ would come TO Israel, but not exclusively FOR Israel. Big difference.
     
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  8. Acolyte

    Acolyte Well-Known Member

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    All part of His wonderful plan. Makes me want to burst out like the kool-aid man! Oh, yeah!!
    Truely Blessed.
     
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  9. farouk

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    The Lord's ways are wondrous and past finding out. :) (Romans 11.33)
     
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