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Featured Kanye West turns to Jesus.

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  1. Josho

    Josho Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    I'm not a rap fan, but for those aware, Kanye used to be a very carnal rapper, but turned to Christ a few months ago, and has recently released a Christian rap album called "Jesus is King."

    I just watched a facebook video by Martyn Illes I'm not sure if I spelt his name right, but if you know the Australian Christian Lobby you most likely have heard of him, anyway he goes on to read Kanye's lyrics from the new album. And the lyrics are totally clean, and very biblically, Jesus centered and what's amazing is several of his new gospel rap songs are hitting the top 50 songs, top 100 on the music charts right around the world, and his Gospel album currently holds no. 1 position on the Aussie ARIA charts.

    So the question is what happens from here? Do other famous singers and musicians follow? Could it temporarily change the direction of mainstream music for the next 10 years? How does this go onto influence Gen Y and Gen Z? Because this genre is massive for those generations.
     
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    My son is an athiest, but a Kanya west fan- he brought his new cd and thinks it is great. My son is ' hearing ' the truth, and who knows what seeds that will plant.
    Satan is after the younger generation, just maybe Kanya can be used to reach that generation in a way that others can't.
    Rita
     
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    We need to not rush to judgment(not saying you are, just typing this out in a general sense). On twitter, many are saying his conversion isn't real, some are saying it is, some, like me, are in a holding pattern. I am not saying yea or nay to his conversion, but praying he has really been saved. If he has, talk about a platform to talk to ppl about the Christ.
     
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    Josho Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    And if his conversion is genuine, Kanye also needs prayer that he stays away from temptations from his past life.

    Twitter though, I have found twitter can be a bitter and nasty place, and it can be pretty one sided, even though there are a lot of Christians on there as well, it is heavily left winged, and can be a lot further left than Facebook from my experience, even though Facebook is catching up, if there is a trending hashtag Twitter on a subject of immorality on twitter and you click on it, the discussion is highly one sided and people are quick to pounce on anyone who speaks the truth.

    Donald Trump has a good amount of support on Twitter, but cops a lot of anger and nasty comments too.

    But when Tony Abbott was PM of Australia, 90% of twitter were against him.

    If a subject like #Abortion is trending, only like 10-20% commenting on it are pro-life, or so it seems.

    If one talks about Jesus on twitter in a popular hashtag, that's Biblical prophecy being fulfilled, people are hated for tweeting the truth.
     
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    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    The jury would still be out over Kanye. We would hope that it's a true conversion. You may want to read Vigilant Citizen that covers a lot about Hollyweird:

    https://vigilantcitizen.com

    Very evil people have control of Hollywood and most of the people that work there. I know someone who has been trying to break into the entertainment industry and it's very very hard. Talk is you have to be illuminati. Vigilant Citizen is a good resource.

    He also has a good article on Greta Thunberg if interested.
     
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    Josho Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    Sorry but I am not into Illuminati theories and many Aussie Christians are not. I believe the Illuminati is very small, and it ain't even big in today's world, I cannot speak for Kanye, but I don't think he is in the Illuminati.

    But I do believe Hollywood is full of bad influences and ran by people in fantasy land that are far from truth, or have twisted it, in an act of pleasing the world, so they can get more money and more fans.

    And Greta Thunberg and extinction rebellion, I don't know what these people think they are doing, and they better be careful they don't send the world into poverty. Has anyone even made a topic about that yet on this forum? Because that is really big topic.
     
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    Soverign Grace Well-Known Member

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    Kanye himself has spoken openly about the illuminati:

    Kanye West Addresses Illuminati Rumors

    Kanye West Taken To Hospital After Outing Jay Z As 'Illuminati'

    I don't know what the truth is regarding Kanye - I sincerely hope he's independent of them. He's allegedly been hospitalized for "mental issues" which we often see happen in Hollywood - Britney Spears, Selena Gomez, etc. It could be explained that they're artists and artists are known for being "batty" - creativity is linked to psychiatric disorders at times.

    After reading Henry Makow and seeing what is happening in my country I fully believe that the illuminati have control of presidents, the media, education, entertainment. I guess they're called by different names but I do believe a small faction has control of all nations:

    henrymakow.com - Exposing Feminism and The New World Order

    Greta Thunberg has rocketed into the attention of the (owned) media. But if you look on Vigilant Citizen you'll see her flashing the illuminati signs. It's well-known that satanists and Freemasons flash signs in public. I don't know why they do this other than to signal to others that they're in the same organization. I had a friend who temporarily got involved in the occult through a boy she knew and I learned some things about how hand signs are flashed to signal to others.

    I'll start a topic on climate change and Greta Thunberg. Good idea.
     
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    I am not being funny but why the negatives , why cant something be seen as a positive. It's like seeing satan on every shoulder , everything that happens. If Kanya conveys the gospel, then it is being conveyed - end of !
    Sure Hollywood is full of so many wrong things, but it doesn't mean that God cannot work within it.
    None of us, nor anyone on Twitter, facebook, instagram ect ect can know his heart, or know if he has truly embraced the gospel. If he hasn't then he would be taking a big risk , if he has it just makes more sense that the risk was worth it and taken.
    Rita
     
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    Well, I had hoped...………………. But I guess when your constant searching for something "evil" gives you Illuminati Fever, it is hard to shake, and you imagine it everywhere.

    Let us thank God for whatever Kanye is experiencing, and pray for him to hold out. Lord knows very few of us could stand up under the scrutiny and judgment by "Christians" he is/and will be undergoing.
     
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    Josho Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    Spot on. There may be a lot of negatives in Hollywood, but still a few positives.

    For example.

    In recent times there is something good that did happen in Hollywood, without getting into detail, the speaking out against inappropriate sexual behavior against others has been effective, and has gave many others outside of Hollywood the courage to step up and say "it has happened, it's not right, and it's got to stop." And now governments, workplaces and organisations are listening and changing rules to make people feel more comfortable and safe on a daily basis.

    So good things can come out of Hollywood.

    So can Kanye influence mainstream music with his Gospel album? the answer is yes.
     
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    If no one else will say it, I will say it . RUBBISH! The grooming of people to accept Kanye West surfaced during the presidential "election" I say selection placement by the elites of Trump. It is all Talmudic Kabbalah bull. He no more believes in Christ -as to following, than Lucifer. Even the devils call Him the holy Son of God. Luke 4:3434“Ha! What do You want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are, the Holy One of God!”

    Matthew 7:
    A Tree and its Fruit
    …21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’…

    Using His name and actually doing things IN HIS NAME are two different things. What Christ is saying is clear, anything they may seem to be doing prophesy , driving out demons and performing miracles is not in him but by the power of satan. This is to bring men unto themselves for profit and gain. There is money to be made in the "Christian" music industry and greater than that gain from THE GREAT DECEPTION. He isn't the only occultist to claim he is Christian. It is part of the deception fostered by the Elites to whom satan has given his own power, authority and throne. They are at the Top of the pyramid.

    It is simply a hi-jacking of the title Christian. Watch. this is grooming for the false messiah and the false narrative of the Millennial reign of Christ. Do you think satan is going to just start a new chapter and forego all the prophecies that would have to have happened before the TRUE Christ's second coming? Plus Christ's timely coming was what fulfilled all of that which is to be to date. If the synagogue of satan says here is the long awaited Messiah , it is clear he has missed many important markers in time to be HIM. See the False Jew(synagogue of satan ones) " One is a Jew when he is one inwardly" St. Paul , denies Yeshua ha Meshiach is well that , the Meshiach. And choose to believe the messiah is still to come.

    Problem! Christ fulfilled much of what was to be fulfilled that their messiah missed. The Illuminati nit wits have fashioned an idea to say the false messiah who does arrive (very soon too) is actually Yeshua (Jesus). Through false interpretation of scripture they will claim the man of sin is actually Jesus and it is the beginning of His Millennial reign-revelation. No return as he went that all of creation will see, which will bring forth His wrath upon those who are not arisen to glory or snatched up at the LAST TRUMPET but rather a time of peace . Oh and during Trumps presidency the trumpets will begin to sound. The first WOE will be during his presidency .

    The liars will say a secret Millennial reign has been overlooked. Many religious leaders IN VERY HIGH positions will convey the same thing. Kanye is simply the grass roots movement toward the bigger picture. Hollywood is simply a setting up of idols for people who do not have the spirit of discernment.

    How 'bout this: "it is easier for a camel to pass through an eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to give up his treasures to enter heaven." In other words IMPOSSIBLE! He made his money by selling his soul to the devil and now is making money on Christ's name. I did not see him give up the money he made from the devil! Can not have it both ways, "you cannot serve two masters God and money. You will either love the one and hate the other, but, you cannot serve both."
     
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    My son and daughter have both relayed to me that as a result of the CD they have listened to his testimonies and interviews.Both relay he is certainly talking as a christian.One thing they mentioned was the fact that Kanya has had the most criticisms from American evangelicals.
    Kanya says that it's great hearing people quote the title of the cd ' Jesus is King ' - they are proclaiming a truth everytime its mentioned- I do like that.
    Rita
     
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    CovenantPromise -dont hold back will you ! Lol
    Your entitled to your opinion, as that is all it is.
    Time will tell.
    I did hear a few years ago that he was thinking of running for president, I thought then ' the world has gone crazy '
    I think he is arrogant, always have thought that, but if my children are hearing the gospel - that's a bonus.
    Rita
     
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    If someone gives away a thousand Bibles freely, should one doubt his conversion? Christians should give Kanye West the benefit of the doubt and some credit.
     
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    Yeah and so did David Koresh:rolleyes:.
     
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    Josho Well-Known Member Encounter Team

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    @CovenantPromise We must not forget, music is a powerful tool that can be used to reach the lost.
     
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    True,especially from a spirit which knows who the mother of the redeemed is. Mother Miryam is the seal over our hearts and arm just as she is over Christ's heart and was the hand which guided him by the arm as he grew in her guidance in full Wisdom. Love of her is how we become like Christ. We must include her in our lives as she was in His and the apostles . We must take her into our hearts as John did his Home and home is where the heart is. She is our mother to be honored according to the Commandment of Christ. She is the SEAL of authentic love of Christ. Rejection of her is rejection of what Christ established in her designation as Theotokos and He being Theo knows what is best.


     
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    Yeah, that was Acts 4:12 , wasn't it.... ?
    "There are only two names under heaven by which we may be saved." (Hummmm…. Somehow that doesn't sound quite right.....)
     
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    I was totally blown away by this. I also had heard of his 'conversion' but hadn't put much stock in it. I felt his "Sunday Services" were dodgy...how can it be 'Church' with no preaching or gospel proclamation.
    But, at the same time his new album released, social media started blowing up with clips of him talking about various topics related to his faith, and I was surprised enough at how...biblically sound...his answers were, that I decided to listen to his new album. Shock of my life. The music is not really my style, but its theologically sound and completely on track with Christian repentance and supplication. Kayne confesses his past sin, encourages Christians to pray for him, and loudly proclaims Christ is King, not Kayne.
    So...to those who doubt...and hold out, waiting to know or judge...we must remember two things: Kayne might be 'saved' now, and might be doing his best to live the life Christ wants of him, but he is still just human, and new in his faith as well. If people watch for the slightest flaw or sin...they are going to find them. Judging a man on whether his faith is genuine or not based solely on what we see from the media....is as about as unbiblical and unChristian as it can get. We need to do just what he asks for: prayer. Pray that he stays strong in the culture he is immersed in. Because LA celebrity culture is about as bad for Christianity as living in North Korea. He WILL need to be strong and founded in his faith in a way not many of us need to be; he is the spotlight and in the heart of liberal culture. Prayer indeed.
    But...I wonder if others see the absolute humor of God in this whole situation? Kayne West is...or was...one of the biggest narcissists in all Hollywood. And his wife hit fame from the release of a sex tape. Kayne is now preaching Christ on every platform he can get...and you'd better believe at home to his wife as well. I find it slightly hilarious that God went "I'm going to do something...I'm going to do it in California, and I'm going to do it through Kayne...and maybe later his wife." The 'fan' base these two have?
    Yep...God has a sense of humor, and never does what we expect!
     
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    No actually there is only One name under heaven by which men are saved. And that name is Yeshua.She too was saved! Did I say that she is by whom you are saved ? No I said place her as a seal over your heart and as a seal upon your arm as scripture says. And if you truly believed in Christ's name SAVIOR, then you would embrace all His doctrine which SAVES. His name is the only name that one is saved in. That name means God is with us. That means in HIS TEACHING is the only means to salvation. If you truly believed in His name that would mean His teaching. Why do you deny what scripture clearly states about His chosen mother ? Obviously demons can call Him the holy One of God so believing in His name does not mean being able to say it but serving it according to HIS DOCTRINE .If you reject her designation that HE GAVE her then do you really embrace His name? And do you think to embrace His name is to reject esteeming all those who have a position in His name? Prove it with scripture, YOU WON'T! But I will prove with scripture that we are told to esteem all who labored before us and are over us. She was conceived first before all else in Christ's Spirit .

    Her Immaculate conception came before all else could be and she was Christian before all else . She is the FIRST to receive the Holy Seed not only in spirit but she also conceived Him OF HER FLESH . that is the Incarnation Christ- God was Incarnated of HER SANCTIFIED FLESH. All have an Immaculate Conception in Christ's Spirit. All births have a conception even being born again as a Christian. No Christian is a born again Christian but rather a sinner who becomes born again as a Christian. Being Christian is the birth of Christ within and growing in that to full restoration is the goal! A sinner who puts Faith in the holy seed ,THE WORD, has had an Immaculate Conception of spirit= has received a Pure Clean Spirit within the Soul -Christ is the Holy imperishable seed we have conceived and are conceived in. Through Mercy and grace one is born again as a Christian not a born again Christian a Christian is never rebirthed but is the result of a sinner being . satan sure does run amuk!

    We are to esteem those who labored for us very highly! And we are to outdo ourselves in honoring one another unlike you who likes to honor yourself. And since she is the mother of those born again as Christian according to Christ's doctrine ALONE I do not have a problem you have a problem . her designation was sealed at the cross when Christ told John "Man behold thy mother, Woman behold thy son" "and from that moment that apostle took Miryam (Mary) into his home. Her motherhood toward the church was sealed at the cross. It is clear anyone who rejects her rejects the understanding of what the TRUE Confession of the Incarnation is.

    It is the ONLY Confession that devils will not and cannot do. It is what is used to TEST if the spirit of God dwells in men or apparition. 1John 4 . And I guarantee you will not be able to prove me wrong , reject maybe prove wrong NEVER! And I know for a fact you cannot do the Confessing of the Incarnation nor can Kanye for that matter!
     
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