Kingdom Law verses Heavenly Grace (B)

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It should be borne in mind that the legal kingdom requirements as stated in the Sermon on the Mount are meant to prepare the way for, and condition life in, the earthly Davidic millennial kingdom when it shall be set up upon the earth, and at that very time when the kingdom prayer, “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven” has been answered. These kingdom emphases appear in the early ministry of the Lord Jesus, since He was at that time faithfully offering the Messianic kingdom to Israel (Christians do not need the Messianic kingdom nor the new earth—NC).

It has been objected that such stipulations as “Resist not evil,” “Whosoever shall smite on thy right cheek . . .,” “Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile . . .” and “. . . persecuted for righteousness’ sake” could not be possible in the kingdom. This challenge may be based upon a supposition that the earthly Messianic kingdom is to be as morally perfect as heaven. On the contrary, the Scriptures abundantly testify that while there will be far less occasion to sin, for the sufficient reason that Satan is then bound and in a pit and the glorious King is on His throne, there will be need of immediate execution of judgment and justice in the earth, and even the King shall rule, of necessity, with a “rod of iron” (Christ and Christians will be correcting sinners during the Millennial kingdom—NC).

It is said that “all Israel will be saved” (see notes at bottom—NC), and “They shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest” (Jer 31:34). But it is also revealed that at the end of the millennium, when Satan is loosed for a little season, he is still able to solicit the allegiance of human hearts and to draw out of the multitudes within the kingdom an army for rebellion against the government of the King (Rev 20:7-9). In that kingdom dispensation “the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed” (Isa 65:20).

These kingdom commands and principles were given to Israel only (as was the Decalogue—NC), and it is the same distinct nation that shall stand first in her predicted kingdom when it is set up on the earth (present old earth—NC). The Lord Jesus was first “a minister of the circumcision” (Rom 15:8). Consequently, is it an unnatural interpretation of Scripture to understand that He was performing this divinely appointed ministry at the very time when He was offering the kingdom to the nation and when He, with His forerunner (JTB—NC), was depicting the principles of conduct that should condition life in that kingdom (Mat 3:1, 2)? Nothing is lost by such an interpretation (the Millennial kingdom remains intact and the Christian attributes unmixed with law—NC). On the contrary, everything is gained for the riches of Grace, which alas so few apprehend (most are unfamiliar with these truths concerning Israel’s millennial kingdom—NC), are thus kept pure and free from an unscriptural admixture with the law (keeping the laws of the Millennial kingdom and eternal New Heaven teachings separate—NC).

—L S Chafer (1871-1952)





NC Notes:

John Gill (1697-1771):
“And so all Israel shall be saved,....”; Meaning not the mystical spiritual Israel of God, consisting both of Jews and Gentiles, who shall appear to be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation, when all God's elect among the latter are gathered in, which is the sense many give into; but the people of the Jews, the generality of them, the body of that nation, called "the fulness" of them, Romans 11:12, and relates to the latter day, when a nation of them shall be born again at once; when, their number being as the sand of the sea, they shall come up out of the lands where they are dispersed, and appoint them one Head, Christ, and great shall be the day of Jezreel; when they as a body, even the far greater part of them that shall be in being, shall return and seek the Lord their God, and David their King; shall acknowledge Jesus to be the true Messiah, and shall look to Him, believe on Him, and be saved by Him from wrath to come.

Albert Barnes (1798-1870):
“All Israel”; He does not mean to say that every Jew of every age would be saved; for he had proved that a large portion of them would be, in his time, rejected and lost. But the time would come when, as a people, they would be recovered; when the nation would turn to God; and when it could be said of them that, as a nation, they were restored to the divine favor.

Joseph Benson (1749-1821):
And so all Israel shall be saved Shall be brought to believe in Jesus as the true Messiah, and so shall be put into the way of obtaining salvation, being convinced of the truth by the coming in of the Gentiles.



MJS daily devotional excerpt for October 17

The true servant is finally subdued, but not stultified; prepared but not deprived of individuality. All that is rendered inoperative is the old man—and thank God for that! -MJS

“When we are finally prepared, our Lord says: ‘When I died, you died. When I went to the Cross I not only took your sins, but I took you. I not only took you as a sinner, but I took you as being all that you are by nature; your good as well as your bad; your abilities as well as your disabilities; yes, every resource of yours. I took you as a worker, a preacher, and organizer. My Cross means that not even for Me can you be or do anything out from yourself; but if there is to be anything at all it must be out from Me, and that means a life of absolute dependence and faith.’“ -T. A-S.
(more . . . None But The Hungry Heart)
 

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It should be borne in mind that the legal kingdom requirements as stated in the Sermon on the Mount are meant to prepare the way for, and condition life in, the earthly Davidic millennial kingdom when it shall be set up upon the earth, and at that very time when the kingdom prayer, “Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth, as it is in heaven” has been answered. These kingdom emphases appear in the early ministry of the Lord Jesus, since He was at that time faithfully offering the Messianic kingdom to Israel (Christians do not need the Messianic kingdom nor the new earth—NC).

It has been objected that such stipulations as “Resist not evil,” “Whosoever shall smite on thy right cheek . . .,” “Whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile . . .” and “. . . persecuted for righteousness’ sake” could not be possible in the kingdom. This challenge may be based upon a supposition that the earthly Messianic kingdom is to be as morally perfect as heaven. On the contrary, the Scriptures abundantly testify that while there will be far less occasion to sin, for the sufficient reason that Satan is then bound and in a pit and the glorious King is on His throne, there will be need of immediate execution of judgment and justice in the earth, and even the King shall rule, of necessity, with a “rod of iron” (Christ and Christians will be correcting sinners during the Millennial kingdom—NC).

It is said that “all Israel will be saved” (see notes at bottom—NC), and “They shall all know Me, from the least of them unto the greatest” (Jer 31:34). But it is also revealed that at the end of the millennium, when Satan is loosed for a little season, he is still able to solicit the allegiance of human hearts and to draw out of the multitudes within the kingdom an army for rebellion against the government of the King (Rev 20:7-9). In that kingdom dispensation “the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed” (Isa 65:20).

These kingdom commands and principles were given to Israel only (as was the Decalogue—NC), and it is the same distinct nation that shall stand first in her predicted kingdom when it is set up on the earth (present old earth—NC). The Lord Jesus was first “a minister of the circumcision” (Rom 15:8). Consequently, is it an unnatural interpretation of Scripture to understand that He was performing this divinely appointed ministry at the very time when He was offering the kingdom to the nation and when He, with His forerunner (JTB—NC), was depicting the principles of conduct that should condition life in that kingdom (Mat 3:1, 2)? Nothing is lost by such an interpretation (the Millennial kingdom remains intact and the Christian attributes unmixed with law—NC). On the contrary, everything is gained for the riches of Grace, which alas so few apprehend (most are unfamiliar with these truths concerning Israel’s millennial kingdom—NC), are thus kept pure and free from an unscriptural admixture with the law (keeping the laws of the Millennial kingdom and eternal New Heaven teachings separate—NC).

—L S Chafer (1871-1952)






NC Notes:

John Gill (1697-1771):
“And so all Israel shall be saved,....”; Meaning not the mystical spiritual Israel of God, consisting both of Jews and Gentiles, who shall appear to be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation, when all God's elect among the latter are gathered in, which is the sense many give into; but the people of the Jews, the generality of them, the body of that nation, called "the fulness" of them, Romans 11:12, and relates to the latter day, when a nation of them shall be born again at once; when, their number being as the sand of the sea, they shall come up out of the lands where they are dispersed, and appoint them one Head, Christ, and great shall be the day of Jezreel; when they as a body, even the far greater part of them that shall be in being, shall return and seek the Lord their God, and David their King; shall acknowledge Jesus to be the true Messiah, and shall look to Him, believe on Him, and be saved by Him from wrath to come.

Albert Barnes (1798-1870):
“All Israel”; He does not mean to say that every Jew of every age would be saved; for he had proved that a large portion of them would be, in his time, rejected and lost. But the time would come when, as a people, they would be recovered; when the nation would turn to God; and when it could be said of them that, as a nation, they were restored to the divine favor.

Joseph Benson (1749-1821):
And so all Israel shall be saved Shall be brought to believe in Jesus as the true Messiah, and so shall be put into the way of obtaining salvation, being convinced of the truth by the coming in of the Gentiles.



MJS daily devotional excerpt for October 17

The true servant is finally subdued, but not stultified; prepared but not deprived of individuality. All that is rendered inoperative is the old man—and thank God for that! -MJS

“When we are finally prepared, our Lord says: ‘When I died, you died. When I went to the Cross I not only took your sins, but I took you. I not only took you as a sinner, but I took you as being all that you are by nature; your good as well as your bad; your abilities as well as your disabilities; yes, every resource of yours. I took you as a worker, a preacher, and organizer. My Cross means that not even for Me can you be or do anything out from yourself; but if there is to be anything at all it must be out from Me, and that means a life of absolute dependence and faith.’“ -T. A-S.
(more . . . None But The Hungry Heart)
Why do you present these quotes? They assume that there will be a future, literal, millennial kingdom on earth with all the events that surround it. Where do you find such a context in Matthew? He says at the beginning of the sermon that he began it with his disciples. By the end, the crowds have gathered to hear it. I think that, therefore, it is for believing Christians.
 

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Why do you present these quotes? They assume that there will be a future, literal, millennial kingdom on earth with all the events that surround it. Where do you find such a context in Matthew?
Hi, and thanks for your replies! Mat 6:10: "Thy kingdom come" is a prayer for the Jews who believe in God, Jn 14:1 - "ye believe in God" KJV. This will be a kingdom that only "God's people" will partake of; while the Christians will rule the new earth with Christ from heaven.
 

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Hi, and thanks for your replies! Mat 6:10: "Thy kingdom come" is a prayer for the Jews who believe in God, Jn 14:1 - "ye believe in God" KJV. This will be a kingdom that only "God's people" will partake of; while the Christians will rule the new earth with Christ from heaven.
Hi, and thanks for your replies! Mat 6:10: "Thy kingdom come" is a prayer for the Jews who believe in God, Jn 14:1 - "ye believe in God" KJV. This will be a kingdom that only "God's people" will partake of; while the Christians will rule the new earth with Christ from heaven.
That is your additional conclusion for interpreting it, but where does Jesus say in Matthew's gospel say those things? You have added to the text context that isn't there, I think. In other words, support your opinions with other passages.
 

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That is your additional conclusion for interpreting it, but where does Jesus say in Matthew's gospel say those things? You have added to the text context that isn't there, I think. In other words, support your opinions with other passages.
The Jews inheriting the new earth is not taught by many theologians, as Scripture is not direct on much of Israel's eschatology.
 

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The Jews inheriting the new earth is not taught by many theologians, as Scripture is not direct on much of Israel's eschatology.
If the Bible isn't direct on your eschatology, wouldn't it make sense to re-examine it to bring it more in line with the Bible alone?
 

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If the Bible isn't direct on your eschatology, wouldn't it make sense to re-examine it to bring it more in line with the Bible alone?
I can appreciate what you're saying, but I have believed for 20 years now what I'm sharing. To me there is enough Scripture for support. For example, Jer 31:31-34; Eze 36:24-28 are future prophecies for the Jews final new covenant during the Millennial.
 

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I can appreciate what you're saying, but I have believed for 20 years now what I'm sharing. To me there is enough Scripture for support. For example, Jer 31:31-34; Eze 36:24-28 are future prophecies for the Jews final new covenant during the Millennial.
Why don't you take the teachings of those prophecies and apply them to Christians' new covenant instituted by Jesus in his Last Supper (Luke 22:20--And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood.") as well as to Jesus' description of the new birth in John 3? Why do they only have to be fulfilled in the Jews, when the New Testament describes them too?
 
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Why don't you take the teachings of those prophecies and apply them to Christians' new covenant
The covenant in Christ's Blood isn't for non-Christian Jews. They only believe in God, but not the Lord Jesus. They will have their own final "new covenant" as those prophecies show.
 

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The covenant in Christ's Blood isn't for non-Christian Jews. They only believe in God, but not the Lord Jesus. They will have their own final "new covenant" as those prophecies show.
Do you ever have the sense that the prophecies about Israel might be fulfilled in the church as the "new Israel," since believers are all children of Abraham, according to Paul (Romans 4 and Galatians 3)?
 
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Do you ever have the sense that the prophecies about Israel might be fulfilled in the church as the "new Israel," since believers are all children of Abraham, according to Paul (Romans 4 and Galatians 3)?
The "new Israel" concept is a false doctrine and is not Scripturally supported. Many have been caught up in this idea and the only passage they can use is Gal 6:16, which does refer to all Christians. But the Jews who believe in God but not in Christ are the "people of God," and He has eternal plans for them too.
 

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The "new Israel" concept is a false doctrine and is not Scripturally supported. Many have been caught up in this idea and the only passage they can use is Gal 6:16, which does refer to all Christians. But the Jews who believe in God but not in Christ are the "people of God," and He has eternal plans for them too.
Yes, he does if they trust in Jesus as the Messiah. Otherwise, they will be like the northern kingdom of Israel, who disappeared never to heard from again after being exiled to Assyria, very sadly!
 

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It should be borne in mind that the legal kingdom requirements as stated in the Sermon on the Mount are meant to prepare the way for, and condition life in, the earthly Davidic millennial kingdom

Already off on the wrong foot...

Jesus will return for His 1000 Year Reign, not David.

David is going to be the mayor of Jerusalem during the 1000 Year Reign of Jesus Christ over Club Earth
 

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Yes, he does if they trust in Jesus as the Messiah. Otherwise, they will be like the northern kingdom of Israel, who disappeared never to heard from again after being exiled to Assyria, very sadly!
But Judah's return from Babylon to Jerusalem (Israel) in 536 B.C., for Cyrus the Great permitted the return.

"What used to be called Judah or Judea, today is called by different names by different peoples. Jewish Israelis might still call this area Judea, or simply Israel, whereas Palestinians and others might call it the West Bank (referring to the time when this area used to be the western area of Jordan)." -study.com
 

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Already off on the wrong foot...

Jesus will return for His 1000 Year Reign, not David.

David is going to be the mayor of Jerusalem during the 1000 Year Reign of Jesus Christ over Club Earth
I would like someone to explain to me exactly where in the Bible you get these ideas, Dan. Why are you certain that the 1,000 years are literally that long, when Revelation's numbers are very figurative standing for spiritual reality, not literal time? Where in the Bible do you find your last statement that David will be the mayor of Jerusalem during the 1,000 years? I only see the new Jerusalem, which pictures the Old and New Testament people of God with God on the throne in Revelation 21 without any mention of 1,000 years at that point.