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What is it that would compell a believer now to still go off in sin. There is something about a born again believer that sneaks around or just lives in blatant sin. What would possess a born again God fearing person such as you and I to do things we know do not fit the new creation now? When everything is said and done the one thing that causes a believer to live that kind of a lifestyle is-THEIR LOVE. The love for the father is not deeper than themselves. They love themselves more than they love their father.

It will be a love situation now in all a believer says and does. They keep themselves because of love and a understanding of who they are. They know they are the very living expression of Christ and all the father is. They are the fruit of the Spirit by Christ in them and a desire and love for being that life always. Do we do it always? No but the desires of who they are is transferred from just a self for yourself, to a believer with understanding of how life fits together and work's.

Love will motivate a believer to do all they do for life and living. Father love, the love of God expressed as you, as your creation love is demonstrated. You fall in love with love (God is love) and do all you know to do to be that love for others. If a believer has a doer mentality here is the way to live, work at the love for God as a motivating factor in all you will ever do.

You may never perfect love but it is your desire to be love and you love your father more than you love yourself. You see there is nothing more the father can do for you when it comes to setting you free. Take a long look at the cross and you see it gives the believer freedom. You have to be free in mind in order to operate as it is designed. I always have a problem with those that tell you that a Christian's freedom will cause them to sin. They say you need to be corralled until you can an live right, when in fact the opposite is true. If you ever watch a person that was raised in a strict law slinging household and made to do certain things to please God they usually want nothing to do with God.

Everything they did came under judgement and correction, law logs were always in place and when they get out of that household watch them because most will live like the devil sowing what they used to call wild oats. They can be some of the hardest to reach because they have been brain washed and don't even like bringing up the word religion. They simply hate it because of what they have been told is life.

Raising children is tricky situation because they have a sin nature and you will need to explain the gospel to them. You need to teach your kids not Sunday school, they need to know what you know if you know anything. Sunday school is good but you reach them and they will come to enjoy life as it is intended and they will love their father ❤️

I know kids that have been raised with the knowledge of Christ is life. What a joy to see young people with knowledge and they were sparred the hell of religion, what a difference. It is the gospel a live in believers.
 
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Hello @soulman,

It is so wonderful to have been delivered from the law of sin and death, and to have been brought into the law of the spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, our Saviour, Lord and Head.

'There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending His Own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.'

(Rom 8:1-4)

Praise God!

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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Hello @soulman,

It is so wonderful to have been delivered from the law of sin and death, and to have been brought into the law of the spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus, our Saviour, Lord and Head.

'There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,
God sending His Own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.'

(Rom 8:1-4)

Praise God!

Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
Wonderful scriptures dear, thank you
 
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Hello @soul man,

Reading your post, I realised just how much that was not true of me. I am very aware of God's love for me, but am not aware of my love for Him. I realise how little I consider others, let alone God, in relation to what I do or say. I am not aware that love for the Father motivates me, though I do desire that it will. I am very conscious that in me, that in is in my flesh, dwells no good thing.

I glory in God's grace, in His love, in His provision in the person and work of His dear Son, and in His eternal purpose and the promises that He has made to us in Christ Jesus. Of those things I am sure, and in them I will rejoice, but I cannot claim what you have said to be true of me, for I am indeed a sinner saved by grace. If there is fruit being borne I am not aware of it, and indeed pray that I may not, for spiritual pride is not something that I want to have to deal with.

But I do know that I am His workmanship, for He has said so, not because I feel it to be so, or see it to be so, but I believe it to be so because He would not tell a lie.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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What is it that would compell a believer now to still go off in sin. There is something about a born again believer that sneaks around or just lives in blatant sin. What would possess a born again God fearing person such as you and I to do things we know do not fit the new creation now? When everything is said and done the one thing that causes a believer to live that kind of a lifestyle is-THEIR LOVE. The love for the father is not deeper than themselves. They love themselves more than they love their father.

It will be a love situation now in all a believer says and does. They keep themselves because of love and a understanding of who they are. They know they are the very living expression of Christ and all the father is. They are the fruit of the Spirit by Christ in them and a desire and love for being that life always. Do we do it always? No but the desires of who they are is transferred from just a self for yourself, to a believer with understanding of how life fits together and work's.

Love will motivate a believer to do all they do for life and living. Father love, the love of God expressed as you, as your creation love is demonstrated. You fall in love with love (God is love) and do all you know to do to be that love for others. If a believer has a doer mentality here is the way to live, work at the love for God as a motivating factor in all you will ever do.

You may never perfect love but it is your desire to be love and you love your father more than you love yourself. You see there is nothing more the father can do for you when it comes to setting you free. Take a long look at the cross and you see it gives the believer freedom. You have to be free in mind in order to operate as it is designed. I always have a problem with those that tell you that a Christian's freedom will cause them to sin. They say you need to be corralled until you can an live right, when in fact the opposite is true. If you ever watch a person that was raised in a strict law slinging household and made to do certain things to please God they usually want nothing to do with God.

Everything they did came under judgement and correction, law logs were always in place and when they get out of that household watch them because most will live like the devil sowing what they used to call wild oats. They can be some of the hardest to reach because they have been brain washed and don't even like bringing up the word religion. They simply hate it because of what they have been told is life.

Raising children is tricky situation because they have a sin nature and you will need to explain the gospel to them. You need to teach your kids not Sunday school, they need to know what you know if you know anything. Sunday school is good but you reach them and they will come to enjoy life as it is intended and they will love their father ❤️

I know kids that have been raised with the knowledge of Christ is life. What a joy to see young people with knowledge and they were sparred the hell of religion, what a difference. It is the gospel a live in believers.
@soul man Indeed, prayer and the Scriptures as a wholesome discipline from a young age is a wonderful start to life.
 
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'I am crucified with Christ:
nevertheless I live;
yet not I, but Christ liveth in me:
and the life which I now live in the flesh
I live by the faith of the Son of God,
Who loved me, and gave Himself for me.'

(Gal 2:20)

Hello @soul man,

We reckon ourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God, and live looking for His appearing, for when He who is our life shall appear we too shall appear with Him. If the mind and heart is engaged in looking for Him to appear in glory then He will fill our thinking, and we will be very conscious that it is not I that liveth, but He that liveth in me.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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If there is fruit being borne I am not aware of it, and indeed pray that I may not, for spiritual pride is not something that I want to have to deal with.

Sure there is fruit, if Christ is in a person there will be plenty of fruit. Knowledge is for the believer, it keeps them and their fellowship with the father comes from knowledge. Look at it like this maybe; when we were Born Again something happens-Christ becomes the life, Romans 5:10

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. - Romans 5:10

Humanity was reconciled by the cross-that reconcilation takes place the moment we believe and we are saved by his life which is our life now. Knowledge of the salvation of God (Christ in you) is spiritual growth because we see our salvation as the person of Jesus Christ. The thing about a believer and Christ as one now! They will have fruit even when they do not understand. Understanding Christ allows for more expression but Christ is life regardless of what I know. So there will be fruit (the fruit of the Spirit is the character and personality of Christ). We don't have to understand Christ as life for Christ to be life. He is life fully on his own, but with knowledge comes lifestyle (as far as your doing) and Christianity is lived as a person. The two that became one in a moment now begin to know and understand expression.
 
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There is the thought sometime that love is a pushover and you go around looking for someone to just overwhelm. You may get that feeling but love is alot more than we understand sometime. Look at the love of God-sometimes love is stern, it may not even look like love. Love has the best interest of others in mind-look at the father as your pattern. Love is stable, love is kind, love is strong and the world is touched by love. The world pushes back but love does not quit, love is not easily carried out in the world. Learning love and expression will endure until the end. love is; God. Love is Christ in you and the the greatest love affair that comes about is with Christ and the believer. No greater love!
 
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There is the thought sometime that love is a pushover and you go around looking for someone to just overwhelm. You may get that feeling but love is alot more than we understand sometime. Look at the love of God-sometimes love is stern, it may not even look like love. Love has the best interest of others in mind-look at the father as your pattern. Love is stable, love is kind, love is strong and the world is touched by love. The world pushes back but love does not quit, love is not easily carried out in the world. Learning love and expression will endure until the end. love is; God. Love is Christ in you and the the greatest love affair that comes about is with Christ and the believer. No greater love!
@soul man John's First Epistle has a lot about the Divine initiative in love.
 

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@soul man John's First Epistle has a lot about the Divine initiative in love.

The podical son passage is; a father that loves his son. When the father looked and saw his son coming home a celebration took place. Father love is the reason for all things created. People get excited about alot of things, we like to say "wait until they see my father" our father is greater than all. John bears that out as a book that declares the love of a father for his son, and a son that loves his father more than anything else.
 
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The podical son passage is; a father that loves his son. When the father looked and saw his son coming home a celebration took place. Father love is the reason for all things created. People get excited about alot of things, we like to say "wait until they see my father" our father is greater than all. John bears that out as a book that declares the love of a father for his son, and a son that loves his father more than anything else.
@soul man
Interesting that it's Luke 15 that has the about the prodigal son...
 

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Of coarse it is all the word of God. Certain books are far leaning to the plan and purpose of God.
 
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What is it that would compell a believer now to still go off in sin. There is something about a born again believer that sneaks around or just lives in blatant sin. What would possess a born again God fearing person such as you and I to do things we know do not fit the new creation now?

A Born Again man CAN NOT Commit SIN.

You are talking About a man's ill behavior Toward and Against Other men...

And saying that such ill behavior of Born Again men... is caused by the Lack of Love For God....is false.

No.
The ill behavior of men against men... is caused By...
1) men "not born Again" Against men "born Again"
2) men "not born Again" Against men "Not born Again"
3) men Born Again, Against the "differences of Understandings", of men Born Again.

A Born Again man...has an Exclusive one on one relationship WITH God.
That relationship Once Established...(through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and that one man, receiving a Born Again spirit, and the Spirit of God, IN that man...)
That man is Forgiven all Sin, and can Never Again Sin.

And to understand...
Sin IS Against God.
Only God forgives Sin.

Calling An Act of man Against man...A Sin...
(Is according to Mosaic Law).

Are you Of one of the Twelve Tribes of Israel?
Are you Under Mosaic/Jewish Law?
Or are you Under the Covenant of Christ the Lord Jesus?

The Tribes, The Jews (for the most part...(
Were taught and some entered into, Christ's Church ...IN Christ.
Others were hearing...but decided To leave hearing the Gospel of Jesus ... and continue Under Mosaic Law. (And some Tribes/ Jews, through the Centuries, kept their identity "of Race (i.e. Jew), but left their Belief IN God.)

As Israel/ Jews were returning to Mosaic Law...Gentiles, were being Taught the Gospel of Jesus and God His Heavenly Father...and (many Gentiles for 2,000 yrs have been Accepting, Belief of the Gospel of Jesus, Belief in His Heavenly Father, Belief Jesus is The Christ, And Son of God...
And HAVE Become Born Again With The Baptism of The Spirit of God...)

They CAN NEVER Again Sin Against God.

But they Surely can...be Trespassed Against BY Other men...and Trespass AGAINST other men.

^ the Trespassing Between men, Among men...has Nothing To do with a Born Again man's Love For God....or Sinning.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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