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Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', acc. to Bible (KJB), Hist. & Sci.

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  1. ReChoired

    ReChoired Well-Known Member

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    Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', according to the Bible (KJB), History & Science.

    Just because:

    N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
    N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
    N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound
    N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
    N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
    N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
    N.A.S.A. - Never Accept Serpent Assertions.

    Saying such does not validate the heresy of 'flat-earth' rhetoric. One error demonstrated (NASA), does not validate an associated error (flat-earth) as true. This thread is not for the purpose of discussion of said erroneous 'flat-earth' (make your own thread, and I will be glad to show from scripture and SoP/ToJ the error of 'flat-earth' in great detail).

    The position taken, is a scriptural (KJB), historical and scientific one.

    God will never allow man-kind and their sin to leave this planet [world, spheroid, it is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here, unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7 (which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15); Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB].

    1 Timothy 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

    Psalms 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.​

    Mankind was in Genesis, given dominion (Genesis 1:26,28) over this world, and no others. Mankind in Genesis is never given dominion over any of the Sun, Moon or "stars". Once satan usurped that dominion, he was considered the 'god of this word' (2 Corinthians 4:4) in the place of Adam as the 'god' (who knew good) of this world (Genesis 3:5; Psalms 82:1,6; John 10:34; etc). Only satan could then travel to the third Heaven and back (Job 1:6-12, 2:1-7; 1 Kings 22:19-23; 2 Chronicles 18:18-22) as representative.

    Mankind, as well as the devil, does have physical access to "high" (Ephesians 6:12; applying to the natural first) altitude ("power of the air" (Ephesians 2:2; on this earth, but nothing beyond that. The reach of the devil does not extend to the moon, sun or stars any longer. Yet, he still tries, through mankind, to spread sin to all the unfallen worlds.

    The space program (whether from NASA, Space-Ex, or other government and/or private 'space' agencies) is/are actually another system designed by satan based upon the tower of babel reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacobs Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision (Revelation 1:10), or by John 14:1-3.

    Some names I may recommend to all (most of which is freely available online to read or watch, consider scientifically).

    Bill Kaysing (ex Rocket-Dyne engineer);

    James Collier (Was it only a paper moon; an independent reporter);

    Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild; a (now) Seventh-day Adventist, I have spoken with him);

    Ralph Rene (NASA Mooned America);

    Marcus Allen (author, speaker with Aulis & Nexus magazine);

    David Percy (What happened on the Moon, Analysis; Hall of Mirrors; film and audio/visual expert);

    Mary Bennett
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    Jim (James) Fetzer;

    Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker (youtube); independent atheist, be aware of that, but he surely disproved 'Myth Busters' in person);

    Richard Hall and fellows;

    N.A.S.A. itself (last by not least), and its own material, still available and that which has since been removed, deleted, redacted, etc.

    If any need a link to those material, they can be provided.

    Do I agree with everything they have said or done Of course not. I am only interested in facts, which substantiate the scriptural position.

    What I find, especially in these last days of deception (Revelation 12:9, 13:14, 18:23, 19:20, 20:10; 2 Timothy 3:13, etc), is that people trust their fallible eye-witness and fallen reasoning, more than the sure word of Prophecy from God who cannot lie. Mankind instead has believed the lie through the medium (Tele-vision), just as it was in the beginning. Eve truly believed she had entered a higher 'sphere' (world) of experience, when all the while, it was a delusion.

    The only way in which a man may be truly "lifted up" (John 3:14, 8:28, 12:32) to Heaven, is not by force of might and strength of arm, willpower and satanic ingenuity, but it is only through Calvary, and dying upon the Cross appointed by God. It is never achieved by exalting (propelling) one's self upward that one gains Heaven and surpassing of earth's bounds, but it is by lowering one self, and humbling one self to the dust, and dying unto the death of the Cross that we are then taken by God and exalted to Heaven. Jesus gave the example:

    Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
    Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
    Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
    Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
    Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
    Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
    Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.​
     
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    star-trek-the-next-generation___double_facepalm.jpg
     
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    Hmm, the lack of cognitive response in documented evidence is telling. Since when does not addressing a position, and simply inserting 'internet meme', constitute a debating/discussion counter-point worthy of consideration? It never has in my estimation.
     
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    You know what they say, "a picture is worth a thousand words. "
     
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    Indeed, and both your avatar picture (a man dressed up in a 'godzilla' suit, a false 'god' of a dragon-beast god) and response picture (star trek, all about atheism and secular humanism) are all about fiction, even science falsely so called. Yes, they speak volumes about your position.
     
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    If you say so.

    My position is Christian. A Christian that enjoys the genres of science fiction and fantasy.

    So, if you think that by my posting a Star Trek meme that relayed exactly what I did when I read your OP and my avatar being Godzilla let's you know my position on things, have at it.

    I am a Christian, that's all you really need to know.
     
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    When did God ever stop men from sinning? The history of man is the history of sin, violence, and aggression. That's why a savior was always a part of His plan. We all need to be saved.
    The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good,No, not one. Psalm 14:2-3
     
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    Going to the moon would obviously violate the command: thou shalt not visit the moon.
     
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    I saw this one. Very good!
     
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    Here:

    "Did he not himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself said, ‘He is my brother.’ In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my hands I have done this.” Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know that you have done this in the integrity of your heart, and it was I who kept you from sinning against me. Therefore I did not let you touch her." (Genesis 20:5-6)
     
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    Good example and interestingly, said to a gentile.
     
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    Kirk to Enterprise: VERY FUNNY, Scotty - now beam down OUR CLOTHES, too!
     
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    Some things just aren’t worth commenting on, such as going to great lengths to prove something that is biblically irrelevant.
     
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    Original Star Trek:

    The symbol was one of Atheism - Original Star Trek Symbol at DuckDuckGo

    Captain James T Kirk:

    "Captain" is like Christ Jesus, but in counterfeit, see Joshua 5:13-15.

    "James" is the name of the leader of the first council in Jerusalem, and also the same name as a brother (a son of Joseph) of Jesus. James is also the English way of saying "Jacob".

    "T" is short for "Tiberius", which was the Roman Emperor under whom Christ Jesus died.

    "Kirk" is old Scottish/English for Church.

    Thus the name is significant about a reversal of the Gospel itself.

    Leonard Nemoy, used a lot of Rabbinic Kabalistic Judaism in the series. He also used to photograph nude women (who were not his wife) in his house as 'art', with his wife present.
     
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    Marcus Allen:





     
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    Some of the very very important things I’ve learned from various Christians: the earth is flat, it’s position is fixed, there’s an ice barrier at the edges of the earth to keep us from falling off - that’s being kept secret - there’s a dome over the earth preventing any rockets from leaving earth, also kept secret - thus there’s no such thing as geosynchronous satellites (weather balloons carry them high in the air, and somehow float in a fixed position, impervious to wind moving them), the earth is the center of the solar system, and the small sun orbits the earth - and the space program is fake to deceive us into something - but who knows what or why.
     
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    Ahhh the ol' non-sequitur, it's cousin the red-herring, it's brother Apples to Oranges, and the family favorite, poisoning the well fallacies. Why not deal with the OP itself?
     
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    I mentioned the fake space program - they all seem to go together, as far as I’ve seen.
     
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    Man-kind never set foot on the planetary body known as the 'moon', acc. to Bible (KJB), Hist. & Sci.
    OP ^

    Likelihood success of man on the moon?
    Probably not.

    Transfer of wealth out of the public at Large' pocket to the governments pocket?
    Huge success.
     
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    ReChoried -

    The Big picture of God IS HIS GLORY, which IS His Absolute PURE LIGHT...
    God gives His Glory to no one.
    Yet, He offers the REFLECTION of His Glory UPON willing men.
    And men, out of greed and pride...use honored seats and a pen with poison ink, To transfer the wealth of millions of people, To THEIR pockets...under the auspice it is good to cast ones desires toward a place (MOON), that of its own...IS absolutely VOID of LIGHT...

    People are so proud of their educational degrees...they should be paying attention to the drawings of little children, drawing their homes, families, and Bright Light (SUN) shining down on them.

    Just sayin...
     
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