Mass Shootings and Gun Control

[Stranger]

It is the same old song and dance. There is a mass shooting and the liberals and left start hollering about more gun control.

Is there any who believe if there were no guns allowed in the U. S. that there would not be mass shootings? Foolish. If a person is willing to kill a vast amount of people, then they are willing to get a gun illegally.

All gun control is about is getting those guns out of the hands of conservative Christian right's hands. Notice how quick the latest shooters are branded white supremacist's or pro-gun fanatic's.

Yet, remember the shooting in Las Vegas of all those conservative people attending a country music festival. They never did give the shooters political background. Instead they were still looking for a motive because they just couldn't find one. The motive was clear. He was a liberal leftist who wanted to kill as many right wing conservatives that he could.

When the minority races or liberal left kill white people, it is never racist or political. It is always, the motive is just not known.

Don't be fooled. We have a problem in the U.S. But it isn't guns. It's people. We have created a secular and ungodly nation and are now reaping the benefits of it. The very people who are taking away God and Christ out of our society are the ones who will moan the loudest when these shootings occur.

Gun control is not the answer.

Stranger

 

[Taken]

If a corrupt government can have guns Without Control and the Public at Large Can Not...

Does anyone foresee oppression, suppression, dictatorship, on the horizon...while they still are waving the Banner of Liberty, and claiming to Be Free, when they are Not?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

WHAT do these PEOPLE who mass murder unsuspecting people WANT?

In a nutshell...Notoriety.

Historically mass murderers have a Personal feeling of anger, isolation, depression, outcast, ignored, resentment, jealousy...

They SEEK out, other mass murderers, with the same feelings, and HOW THEY became WELL KNOWN...BY being MASS MURDERERS.

Why not address the Problem instead of the Symptoms?

GIVE THEM THEIR Notoriety in front of a Firing Squad. And then Splash their NAME in the Papers.

Better yet, DO THIS FOR THEM, by their own Request per a LAW and COURT ORDER, BEFORE they COMMIT their CRIME of Murderering unsuspecting persons.

GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT BE A COWARD....and stand IN FRONT of a Firing Squad, and BE FAMOUS, without THEM MURDERING people in a fashion of A COWARD.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Stranger]

Just read where the shooter in Dayton was a left winger. A lover of Elizabeth Warren. But funny how no one is connecting dots of following a left wing ideology to mass murder. Yet the other is called a white racist and should be linked to Trump. See how two faced liberals are.

And of course all are still trying to figure out a motive.

I haven't heard of any of the leftist people demanding that Warren condemn this one who supports her. I must have missed it. I will keep looking.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

WHAT do these PEOPLE who mass murder unsuspecting people WANT?

In a nutshell...Notoriety.

Historically mass murderers have a Personal feeling of anger, isolation, depression, outcast, ignored, resentment, jealousy...

They SEEK out, other mass murderers, with the same feelings, and HOW THEY became WELL KNOWN...BY being MASS MURDERERS.

Why not address the Problem instead of the Symptoms?

GIVE THEM THEIR Notoriety in front of a Firing Squad. And then Splash their NAME in the Papers.

Better yet, DO THIS FOR THEM, by their own Request per a LAW and COURT ORDER, BEFORE they COMMIT their CRIME of Murderering unsuspecting persons.

GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT BE A COWARD....and stand IN FRONT of a Firing Squad, and BE FAMOUS, without THEM MURDERING people in a fashion of A COWARD.

Glory to God,
Taken

You are on the right track. Myself, I don't believe we could do better than the way Israel handles terrorism. The terrorist who is fanatical, wants to die for his cause or purpose. Thus he kills many more than they get of him. 10 to 1, or 20 to 1, whatever.

But in Israel, when a terrorist blows himself up and kill a bunch of people, his home, which involves his relatives home, is destroyed. Literally bull dozed to the ground. That way, go ahead and do your deed, but your family will pay.

Stranger

 

[Enoch111]

Gun control is not the answer.

Exactly. Lunacy control is the answers. And the first order of business should be to lock up all the lunatic Leftist politicians.

 

[Butterfly]

I do agree that the problem is ' people ' but I honestly do not understand why anyone would need assault rifles, that is the side of the argument about gun control that I don't understand. I guess it's harder for me to understand because we don't have the same openness to guns in the uk , and there are strict laws about buying them.
Why do you need assault rifles ?
I get why you would need other types of guns, and why it would be impossible not to have them, it's just the assault weapons that baffle me
Rita

 

[Taken]

I do agree that the problem is ' people ' but I honestly do not understand why anyone would need assault rifles, that is the side of the argument about gun control that I don't understand. I guess it's harder for me to understand because we don't have the same openness to guns in the uk , and there are strict laws about buying them.
Why do you need assault rifles ?

It is not about using them, but rather having them, should the need arise.

We were established as a Nation of Free citizens. Free to be secure in OUR Homes and OUR papers. Free to work and PROVIDE for OUR own families, or starve, go without and explain to your family why you won't provide for them. Free to elect representatives to KEEP other nations from invasion and To KEEP reps from other States from introducing Legislation that impedes the Liberty of citizens of other States. Free to allow the Government to have what individual citizens have...not the other way around...or that the Government can have auto guns to protect and defend themselves, but citizens can't?
Certainly we are well aware of foreigners daily breaking into our nation, and in our homes, and domestic citizens committing breakins, assaults, rape in a persons own home...oh and not to forget Ruby Ridge and Waco massacres by the Government.
Is anyone else, including the Government , going to defend and protect your families right to be secure in your Own home...but the persons whose home it is?

I have a God Given Right to take care of my Own.
I have a Constitutional Right to take care of my own.
Taking care of my own does not require Permission of some left wing communist to tell me HOW TO TAKE care of my Own.
(NOT what work to do, Not what to eat, Not what to learn, and certainly Not what to USE to protect my Own From Harm....especially when they have Armed Guards protecting THEM!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Hidden In Him]

It is the same old song and dance. There is a mass shooting and the liberals and left start hollering about more gun control.

CNN is just the worst. Ever noticed how they always used to find a couple shoes here or there (camera crews probably brought their own) and then tossed them about on the sidewalk for dramatic effect? Well now it's dozens upon dozens of them, virtual mountains of shoes, bunched up in these huge piles, as if tens of thousands couldn't maintain a hold on their own footwear, and they show the image over and over and over and over and over. It's sickening and mentally insulting.

CNN does nothing but sensationalize and politicize the deaths of Americans in these instances. Why? They care nothing about the victims or their plight. Their only goals are to gain as much viewership as possible while furthering their own agenda.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... the shooting in Las Vegas of all those conservative people attending a country music festival. They never did give the shooters political background. Instead they were still looking for a motive because they just couldn't find one. ...

Some people think that our own government has perpetrated a NUMBER of False Flag attacks. Hitler burned down the Reichstag; the military/industrial complex blamed Castro and/or the mafia; and there's no end. But the good news is that today is the BEST DAY, because tomorrow will be worse ...

... and they did call it the Tribulation,
Bobby Jo

 

[Stranger]

Exactly. Lunacy control is the answers. And the first order of business should be to lock up all the lunatic Leftist politicians.

Yes, if that could be done. But in our situation at present, it can't.

Stranger

 

[Bobby Jo]

Yes, if that could be done. But in our situation at present, it can't.

Stranger

Nah, it's not the "situation at present", it's the projected future which prevents INTEGRITY. In fact, it's my premise that Trump will not be re-elected, and a Democrat will turn our sovereignty over to the U.N., and then global thermonuclear war.

And for those with a "vista", grab a lawn chair and a glass of lemonade,
Bobby Jo

 

[Stranger]

I do agree that the problem is ' people ' but I honestly do not understand why anyone would need assault rifles, that is the side of the argument about gun control that I don't understand. I guess it's harder for me to understand because we don't have the same openness to guns in the uk , and there are strict laws about buying them.
Why do you need assault rifles ?
I get why you would need other types of guns, and why it would be impossible not to have them, it's just the assault weapons that baffle me
Rita

Our gun rights are based on our first 10 amendments to the Constitution of 1787. More commonly known as the 'Bill of Rights'.

This is not our original Constitution. Our original Constitution of 1776 was called the Articles of Confederation. In 1787 a bloodless coop occurred where this Constitution was thrown out the window and a new one created. Which is the one we are now under. But when this one occurred a lot of Americans had doubts about the purpose and intent of this new Constitution. Therefore they who oppossed this new Constitution demanded a 'Bill of Rights' in writing to be attached to this new Constitution. Why? Because they did not trust their government that threw away the other one.

The original framers of this Constitution did not want a Bill of Rights that were demanded by the populace. But they could not get it ratified without it. The Americans knew the importance of guns for 'defense' from oppressors. They were not concerned with hunting. They were concerned with being able to provide a defense from their own government when it comes against them....as governments do.

So this is why it is important...imperative...that the citizenry be allowed assault weapons. To go up against an armed army with only single shot shotguns, and a 22 pistol, is foolish. And the government knows it. The government knows that when the citizens posses assault rifles, they can can be stopped.

In other words, guns are for our protection against government when it turns on you.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

CNN is just the worst. Ever noticed how they always used to find a couple shoes here or there (camera crews probably brought their own) and then tossed them about on the sidewalk for dramatic effect? Well now it's dozens upon dozens of them, virtual mountains of shoes, bunched up in these huge piles, as if tens of thousands couldn't maintain a hold on their own footwear, and they show the image over and over and over and over and over. It's sickening and mentally insulting.

CNN does nothing but sensationalize and politicize the deaths of Americans in these instances. Why? They care nothing about the victims or their plight. Their only goals are to gain as much viewership as possible while furthering their own agenda.

I agree, and behind all of this is their effort towards the destruction of America. This why socialism is now being introduced as the way to go. America hangs in the balance. It used to be a place of true refuge, but now the enemy has used that against us and is now destroying us disguised as refugees.

It doesn't pay to watch any news anymore.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Some people think that our own government has perpetrated a NUMBER of False Flag attacks. Hitler burned down the Reichstag; the military/industrial complex blamed Castro and/or the mafia; and there's no end. But the good news is that today is the BEST DAY, because tomorrow will be worse ...

... and they did call it the Tribulation,
Bobby Jo

Well, don't think our government is not beyond doing that. Who sunk the Main that led us into war with Spain? Why was Pearl Harbour loaded with battleships at dock when we knew an attack was coming? The U.S. knew it was coming, though they didn't know when. Why was all the aircraft carriers out at sea at that time? Since they knew it was coming, why didn't they at least get most men out of there?

Because the people of the U.S. did not want to go to war. It took such a tragedy to change their mind.

So, yes, it would not surprise me.

Stranger

 

[Stranger]

Nah, it's not the "situation at present", it's the projected future which prevents INTEGRITY. In fact, it's my premise that Trump will not be re-elected, and a Democrat will turn our sovereignty over to the U.N., and then global thermonuclear war.

And for those with a "vista", grab a lawn chair and a glass of lemonade,
Bobby Jo

What I meant was 'at present' we cannot lock up all the liberal leftist politicians, as much as we would like to. Just as they cannot lock up all the conservative right politicians.

Such action will only be possible after a break up. Or a war. Which I believe is inevitable.

As far as the next election, you may be right. The enemy outnumber us. Prepare now as best you can for the worst. Be smart, and wise as a fox.

Stranger

 

[Taken]

Our gun rights are based on our first 10 amendments to the Constitution of 1787. More commonly known as the 'Bill of Rights'.

This is not our original Constitution. Our original Constitution of 1776 was called the Articles of Confederation. In 1787 a bloodless coop occurred where this Constitution was thrown out the window and a new one created. Which is the one we are now under. But when this one occurred a lot of Americans had doubts about the purpose and intent of this new Constitution. Therefore they who oppossed this new Constitution demanded a 'Bill of Rights' in writing to be attached to this new Constitution. Why? Because they did not trust their government that threw away the other one.

The original framers of this Constitution did not want a Bill of Rights that were demanded by the populace. But they could not get it ratified without it. The Americans knew the importance of guns for 'defense' from oppressors. They were not concerned with hunting. They were concerned with being able to provide a defense from their own government when it comes against them....as governments do.

So this is why it is important...imperative...that the citizenry be allowed assault weapons. To go up against an armed army with only single shot shotguns, and a 22 pistol, is foolish. And the government knows it. The government knows that when the citizens posses assault rifles, they can can be stopped.

In other words, guns are for our protection against government when it turns on you.

Stranger

The BILL OF RIGHTS being PART of the US Constitution was a HUGE MISTAKE.

ANYTHING IN the US Constitution the Federal Government has authority to GOVERN it with Legislation.

They have written legislation about all kinds of things that pertain to the BILL OF RIGHTS.....and without a Bill of Rights or It's ATTACHMENT TO the US Constitution, they would not have had the LEGAL AUTHORITY to
Govern those things.

The left wing commies have tried to backdoor PREVENT private citizens ownership of guns for years....Stipulate an age, Stipulate not paying child support, Make contracts with ammo suppliers so the public Supply is minimized, Stipulate kinds of guns, barrel length, rapid fire, clips, scopes, and on and on...
Ya, when they start issuing spit wads and a straw to their body guards, they might get my attention, but not my guns.

 

[Stranger]

The BILL OF RIGHTS being PART of the US Constitution was a HUGE MISTAKE.

ANYTHING IN the US Constitution the Federal Government has authority to GOVERN it with Legislation.

They have written legislation about all kinds of things that pertain to the BILL OF RIGHTS.....and without a Bill of Rights or It's ATTACHMENT TO the US Constitution, they would not have had the LEGAL AUTHORITY to
Govern those things.

The left wing commies have tried to backdoor PREVENT private citizens ownership of guns for years....Stipulate an age, Stipulate not paying child support, Make contracts with ammo suppliers so the public Supply is minimized, Stipulate kinds of guns, barrel length, rapid fire, clips, scopes, and on and on...
Ya, when they start issuing spit wads and a straw to their body guards, they might get my attention, but not my guns.

I don't see how the Bill of Rights was a mistake. The Bill of rights has protected our rights because we have it in the Constitution.

Yes, the Federal government can govern it with legislation, but they have to meet certain requirements to do so. If the Bill of Rights was not part of the Constitution, you would have lost those rights long ago.

Without a doubt the atheistic left is out for our guns. And if we are turned over to a socialist form of government you will really see that increased.

The bottom line is if the powers that be feel they can get away with something, it doesn't matter where the Bill or Rights is located. Just like they trashed the Articles of Confederation, which was highly illegal. Just like they changed the Constitution by force and deception after the War Between the States.

Stranger

 

[Taken]

I don't see how the Bill of Rights was a mistake. The Bill of rights has protected our rights because we have it in the Constitution.

Yes, the Federal government can govern it with legislation, but they have to meet certain requirements to do so. If the Bill of Rights was not part of the Constitution, you would have lost those rights long ago.

Without a doubt the atheistic left is out for our guns. And if we are turned over to a socialist form of government you will really see that increased.

The bottom line is if the powers that be feel they can get away with something, it doesn't matter where the Bill or Rights is located. Just like they trashed the Articles of Confederation, which was highly illegal. Just like they changed the Constitution by force and deception after the War Between the States.

Stranger

Disagree. The Power and Authority is limited and specific...Granted I doubt a school aged kid is taught or that the majority of citizens consider...
The US Constitution can be written on 9 notebook sheets of Paper...
And every Law written by Congress is Supposed to NOT exceed any of those Specific granted Powers...
Yet somehow there are 51 "Volumes" of Fed Laws containing thousands upon thousands of Page and thousands and thousands of pages of Regulations.

20,000 laws govern gun ownership.

Ridiculous!

 

[Stranger]

@Taken

And what do you think our state would be now if the Second amendment was not there?

Stranger