Apostle Paul talks about milk and meat stages of our walk. When we go to meat stage without thoroughly finishing the milk stage, we will not be any use for God's purpose. It is very clear that Mainstreams are neglecting the milk stage which is reading the New Testament thoroughly and striving to obey everything they are learning. Hypocritical and fruitless christianity are result of neglect of the New Testament.
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.. babies need the whole word too... I just disagree, and Paul says nothing about not finishing the milk stage, but rather talks about getting on and growing up... I just don't know why you have all these threads about the same thing... you need to move on, lets get into the word and over this issue of the New/Old testament... you are bing very stagnant and not growing .... okay, lets discuss something in the New Testament and just stop saying the same thing 1000 different ways...
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.. babies need the whole word too... I just disagree, and Paul says nothing about not finishing the milk stage, but rather talks about getting on and growing up... I just don't know why you have all these threads about the same thing... you need to move on, lets get into the word and over this issue of the New/Old testament... you are bing very stagnant and not growing .... okay, lets discuss something in the New Testament and just stop saying the same thing 1000 different ways...
I am sorry you feel this way. Mainstreams' hypocrisy has to be addressed. You see, you don't seem to be wanting to address the bottom line issue in the mianstreams. This is the typical and normal reaction of mainstreams about their ha
earted fruit.There are tons way of hypocrisy going on. I am just showing how it is looks in the mainstreams. I am going into the details how half-hearted christianity is damaging Jesus' mission.I am hoping to reach out whoever wants to know the whole truth.good day bet.
.. babies need the whole word too... I just disagree, and Paul says nothing about not finishing the milk stage, but rather talks about getting on and growing up... I just don't know why you have all these threads about the same thing... you need to move on, lets get into the word and over this issue of the New/Old testament... you are bing very stagnant and not growing .... okay, lets discuss something in the New Testament and just stop saying the same thing 1000 different ways...
I am sorry you feel this way. Mainstreams' hypocrisy has to be addressed. You see, you don't seem to be wanting to address the bottom line issue in the mianstreams. This is the typical and normal reaction of mainstreams about their ha
earted fruit.There are tons way of hypocrisy going on. I am just showing how it is looks in the mainstreams. I am going into the details how half-hearted christianity is damaging Jesus' mission.I am hoping to reach out whoever wants to know the whole truth.good day bet.Perhaps then we would like to discuss line by line what we think about this section of Hebrews, 5:11 onward means:
11 About this we have much to say that is hard to explain, since you have become dull in understanding. 12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic elements of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food; 13 for everyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is unskilled in the word of righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, for those whose faculties have been trained by practice to distinguish good from evil. 6:1 Therefore let us go on toward perfection, leaving behind the basic teaching about Christ, and not laying again the foundation: repentance from dead works and faith toward God, 2 instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
This definitely talks about people who need some milk. How does it strike you when it talks about trained by practice to distinguish good from evil? Is this the sort of thing you are talking about, Faithful? Can you describe for us what the "oracles of God" are, also? It doesn't have to be Faithful, I just mean would anyone like to share?
11 About this we have much to say that is hard to explain, since you have become dull in understanding. 12 For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic elements of the oracles of God. You need milk, not solid food; 13 for everyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is unskilled in the word of righteousness. 14 But solid food is for the mature, for those whose faculties have been trained by practice to distinguish good from evil. 6:1 Therefore let us go on toward perfection, leaving behind the basic teaching about Christ, and not laying again the foundation: repentance from dead works and faith toward God, 2 instruction about baptisms, laying on of hands, resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.
This definitely talks about people who need some milk. How does it strike you when it talks about trained by practice to distinguish good from evil? Is this the sort of thing you are talking about, Faithful? Can you describe for us what the "oracles of God" are, also? It doesn't have to be Faithful, I just mean would anyone like to share?
faithfulI think you seem to think that evangelism is the same thing as meat of the word. Which is why you do not understand our mention of the old testament so much. Evangelist are not the same thing as teachers(does not mean you can't be both) Evangelist are only required to get people excited about God preach the Good news of redemption. It is different than delving into the deeper levels of the word and you can not fully understand the NT till you get the OT. however you can evangelize better through the NT because that's where the Good news starts.
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Perhaps then we would like to discuss line by line what we think about this section of Hebrews, 5:11 onward means:This definitely talks about people who need some milk. How does it strike you when it talks about trained by practice to distinguish good from evil? Is this the sort of thing you are talking about, Faithful? Can you describe for us what the "oracles of God" are, also? It doesn't have to be Faithful, I just mean would anyone like to share?
You did good job analyzing what I meant. thank you:) I understand the milk is our basic understanding of Jesus' teachings as His followers. We can learn how to change our lives according to Jesus' teachings. Our good witnessing is very important and it is not so hard to learn the basic from the New Testament. In America, christians' bad witnessing is so rampant that we are no different from non-believers.
Perhaps then we would like to discuss line by line what we think about this section of Hebrews, 5:11 onward means:This definitely talks about people who need some milk. How does it strike you when it talks about trained by practice to distinguish good from evil? Is this the sort of thing you are talking about, Faithful? Can you describe for us what the "oracles of God" are, also? It doesn't have to be Faithful, I just mean would anyone like to share?
You did good job analyzing what I meant. thank you:) I understand the milk is our basic understanding of Jesus' teachings as His followers. We can learn how to change our lives according to Jesus' teachings. Our good witnessing is very important and it is not so hard to learn the basic from the New Testament. In America, christians' bad witnessing is so rampant that we are no different from non-believers.
(Faithful1;9792)
In America, christians' bad witnessing is so rampant that we are no different from non-believers.
I do think we need to think about how our actions and words are true to what we believe. It is hard to do well, though. Let us pray that we don't fall into dullness of understanding for lack of diligence on our part.That phrase "oracles of God" I looked up. Here are some references.
Acts 7:38 "This is the one [Moses] who was in the congregation in the wilderness together with the angel who was speaking to him on Mount Sinai, and who was with our fathers; and he received living oracles to pass on to you.Romans 3:2 Great in every respect. First of all, that they [Jews, circumcised] were entrusted with the oracles of God.1 Peter 4:11 Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
And of course the section from Hebrews that I already quoted.It sort of has an OT feel to me. Oh, if you are into Strong's, this is off 3051. So I wonder if milk can also refer to the OT, and not just the NT. Like info about Moses and leaving Egypt and wandering in the desert and the promised land and the 10 commandments and stuff. I know that the OT stories about how with mighty hand God led them on dry land through the sea with the sea like a wall to the left and right really hits home with me.I agree with you, though, that the NT is very accessible.
In America, christians' bad witnessing is so rampant that we are no different from non-believers.
I do think we need to think about how our actions and words are true to what we believe. It is hard to do well, though. Let us pray that we don't fall into dullness of understanding for lack of diligence on our part.That phrase "oracles of God" I looked up. Here are some references.
Acts 7:38 "This is the one [Moses] who was in the congregation in the wilderness together with the angel who was speaking to him on Mount Sinai, and who was with our fathers; and he received living oracles to pass on to you.Romans 3:2 Great in every respect. First of all, that they [Jews, circumcised] were entrusted with the oracles of God.1 Peter 4:11 Whoever speaks, is to do so as one who is speaking the utterances of God; whoever serves is to do so as one who is serving by the strength which God supplies; so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom belongs the glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
And of course the section from Hebrews that I already quoted.It sort of has an OT feel to me. Oh, if you are into Strong's, this is off 3051. So I wonder if milk can also refer to the OT, and not just the NT. Like info about Moses and leaving Egypt and wandering in the desert and the promised land and the 10 commandments and stuff. I know that the OT stories about how with mighty hand God led them on dry land through the sea with the sea like a wall to the left and right really hits home with me.I agree with you, though, that the NT is very accessible.
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