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Ritajanice

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I have been posting it this whole time

When nicodemus asked how these things can be 9the imperishable seed) Jesus answered that he had to be lifted on the cross, as moses raised the serpent. so that whoever believes will nto die
Imperishable seed is not the cross..it’s the Living Holy Spirit..looking to the cross, and believing Jesus died on that cross, they must be Born Again of imperishable seed the Living word of God.
The reason anyone will nto suffer the second death judgment is because of the cross..

But God will not force you to believe, you must chose

How can you not believe even though the spirit is convicting you?
That is not how we are Born Again by the Living word of God..that’s your opinion.
People do it every day, Read the book of John, People saw Jesus do things of the spirit, yet hardened their heart so hard that even raising Lazarus from the dead did nto convince them

Hence they commited the unpardonable sin
That is not how we are Born Again.
 

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There is no mention of imperishable seed in this scripture @Eternally Grateful ?

How you came to the knowledge that being Born Again of imperishable seed..is the cross...it’s pretty baffling to say the least.

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The above scripture is teaching us that we became born again through the avenue or channel of the Word of God. Every one of us got born again through the Living Word. That is the ingredient that gave us the new birth. And the bible calls it, “an incorruptible seed”. That means it cannot be destroyed!

Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
[10] Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
[11] Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
[12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
[13] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
[14] And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
[15] That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life
 
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God saved us from eternal damnation, when he made us Born Again by His Living word.

Absolutely.

Faith is a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit.biblical.

Faith is what we give to God, its ours... Not His.

See, if God caused us to believe, then He would not require us to Believe.

And He does require it...

Our sins are forgiven once God brings us to repentance...your post is not biblical, that’s why it’s confusing.

If we repent of our sins, but we dont believe in Jesus, then are we saved?

We are not.

If we are water baptized but not born again, are we saved? = NOPE>

So, the repentance that God requires is to turn from UNBELIEF, to Faith, iin Christ.


Again not biblical...we are Born Again by the Living word of God.

We are born again by the Spirit of God.
Its the same HS that created Jesus inside a Virgin's womb.


You can’t believe in God without His Spirit..impossible.

WE are led to the Truth by the Spirit of God.
A Baptist would say.>"the conviction of the Holy Spirit"...
And once we have this revelation Knowledge...once we "come to the Knowledge of the Truth" that Jesus is the Savior and we need to be saved.....the we believe or not.

If you read Hebrews chapter 6 and 10, you see Jews who know its true, but wont have it.
They KNOW, its true... they have "tasted the heavenly gift"... they have been shown by the Holy Spirit...

And they say....."NO NO NO"..

That is the "unpardonable sin" being committed... "willfully" by those HEBREWS.. (Jews).

We wouldn’t know how to have faith in Christ without His Spirit..Faith is a gift from God.


See, Faith in Christ is easy to know. ... to understand, but to BELIEVE IT....is to TRUST, and not all who know its TRUTE will trust.


No one who is Born Again by the Living Spirit..can go to hell.

You can't stop being born again.

WE can't get Jesus out of us as we are Joined To Him, Spiritually, and Eternally.
 

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Absolutely.



Faith is what we give to God, its ours... Not His.

See, if God caused us to believe, then He would not require us to Believe.

And He does require it...



If we repent of our sins, but we dont believe in Jesus, then are we saved?

We are not.

If we are water baptized but not born again, are we saved? = NOPE>

So, the repentance that God requires is to turn from UNBELIEF, to Faith, iin Christ.




We are born again by the Spirit of God.
Its the same HS that created Jesus inside a Virgin's womb.




WE are led to the Truth by the Spirit of God.
A Baptist would say.>"the conviction of the Holy Spirit"...
And once we have this revelation Knowledge...once we "come to the Knowledge of the Truth" that Jesus is the Savior and we need to be saved.....the we believe or not.

If you read Hebrews chapter 6 and 10, you see Jews who know its true, but wont have it.
They KNOW, its true... they have "tasted the heavenly gift"... they have been shown by the Holy Spirit...

And they say....."NO NO NO"..

That is the "unpardonable sin" being committed... "willfully" by those HEBREWS.. (Jews).




See, Faith in Christ is easy to know. ... to understand, but to BELIEVE IT....is to TRUST, and not all who know its TRUTE will trust.




You can't stop being born again.

WE can't get Jesus out of us as we are Joined To Him, Spiritually, and Eternally.
Behold, I see no point in going over the same ground....I believe what I believe you believe what you believe.

Best we leave it there....we are most definitely on different levels of spiritual understanding in this area, that’s for sure...God Bless and happy posting.xx
 
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Imperishable seed is not the cross..it’s the Living Holy Spirit..looking to the cross, and believing Jesus died on that cross, they must be Born Again of imperishable seed the Living word of God.
your born again of imperishable seed WHEN you believe.


That is not how we are Born Again by the Living word of God..that’s your opinion.
Thats your opinion
That is not how we are Born Again.
Then Jesus lied.
 

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your born again of imperishable seed WHEN you believe.
Not biblical..imperishable seed is not the cross...we are not Born Again of the cross...very confusing, is your words...you can’t believe in Jesus in our spirit, without being Born Again of imperishable seed...the Spirit brings the truth of Gods Living word Alive in our hearts/ spirit....which is backed up in Gods written word.
Thats your opinion

Then Jesus lied.
The cross does not make us Born Again...the cross is needed in the death and resurrection of Jesus..that’s the only way we can become Born Again.

We become Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God..we need both.

The cross + the Living Spirit Of God...when we become Born Again in our spirit..that is the Living spiritual rebirth, that only God can do.
 

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Not biblical..imperishable seed is not the cross...we are not Born Again of the cross...very confusing, is your words...you can’t believe in Jesus in our spirit, without being Born Again of imperishable seed...the Spirit brings the truth of Gods Living word Alive in our hearts/ spirit....which is backed up in Gods written word.
Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.

What do you think your saved from?
The cross does not make us Born Again...the cross is needed in the death and resurrection of Jesus..that’s the only way we can become Born Again.

We become Born Again by the Living Spirit Of God..we need both.

The cross + the Living Spirit Of God...when we become Born Again in our spirit..that is the Living spiritual rebirth, that only God can do.
You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!
 

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Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.

What do you think your saved from?

You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it

But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!
Your not born again UNTIL you recieve the cross.
Not biblical..we are Born Again by the Spirit of God, biblical.
What do you think your saved from?

You almost got it

Yes, we need borh.

But GOD WILL NOT FORCE YOU TO TRUST THAT.. He requires you to recieve it
Not biblical...
But as many as have recieved him, to THEM he gave the right to become children of God. to those who BELIEVE in his name!
Once again that is not saying how we are Born Of The Spirit...that is your own understanding of how you believe you have been Born Of The Spirit..


You can only believe in the Name of Jesus by His witness the Holy Spirit, when he makes us Born Again of imperishable seed..then we have the indwelling Holy Spirit in our heart..who witnesses Gods truth to our heart all day every day.

We receive the Spirit Of Jesus..we don’t receive the cross into our heart...not biblical.

The cross was needed in order to receive the Holy Spirit.
 

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Not biblical

Not biblical...

Once again that is not saying how we are Born Of The Spirit...that is your own understanding of how you believe you have been Born Of The Spirit..


You can only believe in the Name of Jesus by His witness the Holy Spirit, when he makes us Born Again of imperishable seed..then we have the indwelling Holy Spsee here we go again

You have no fact. You just give your opinion.

I will take what the wor4d says, You continue to believe the way you do.

You want to follow calvinism. feel free.. Thats on you
 

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You have no fact. You just give your opinion.

I will take what the wor4d says, You continue to believe the way you do.

You want to follow calvinism. feel free.. Thats on you
That’s your opinion of me.and an assumption that I follow Calvin...I follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and will continue to do so,

I will leave it there as like Behold we are on different levels of spiritual understanding.

No point going over the same old ground that before we know it, we’re caught up in it.

Enjoy the rest of your day and happy posting.xx