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Moses' Song Sets Forth The Perfections of God

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    Deuteronomy 32:1-4 ( K.J.V.) Read the complete chapterGive ear, O ye heavens, and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain,my speech shall distill as the dew, as the small rain upon tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish the Name of the Lord: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. He is the Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgement: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He. As I read this scripture I found that I could relate to Moses' song regarding the perfection of God. One year awhile ago, I attended a pastor's conference at the Word of Life Camp on beautiful Schroon Lake Lake, New York. It was the middle of Fall. This is located above Albany, New York. We were on a break , about mid-morning, I walked down to the lake shore and just sat on a bench there, watching boaters putting their boats out on the lake and others bringing their boats in. It was a mixture of sun and cloud day. As I looked around at the beauty a ladybug landed on the back of my hand. I just observed that ladybug and gave it free run of my hand and arm. I noticed the colors and markings on it. How perfect! I thought and said to the Lord You created each one of these beautiful creatures, placed every mark to perfection. Then I looked at the surroundings, the lake, the hills or mountains, the sky. The colors all blended so perfectly, I was in awe. I could not help but to respond to the Lord speaking to my heart, with that still small voice, through what I was focused in on. " Lord, You are the God of Perfection, You can do no less.". Then it hit me all that I have learned and taught others for many years, " Lord, Your desire for my life is to instill Your Perfection into my life and all You want me to do is believe." . "Thank You, Jesus for loving me so much.Saints, never think that 1.The Lord will give up on us, for He will complete the work He has begun in all our lives until the Day of the Lord. Praise Him.
     
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    Deuteronomy 32:1-4 ( K.J.V.) Read the complete chapterGive ear, O ye heavens, and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. My doctrine shall drop as the rain,my speech shall distill as the dew, as the small rain upon tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: Because I will publish the Name of the Lord: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. He is the Rock, His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgement: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is He. As I read this scripture I found that I could relate to Moses' song regarding the perfection of God. One year awhile ago, I attended a pastor's conference at the Word of Life Camp on beautiful Schroon Lake Lake, New York. It was the middle of Fall. This is located above Albany, New York. We were on a break , about mid-morning, I walked down to the lake shore and just sat on a bench there, watching boaters putting their boats out on the lake and others bringing their boats in. It was a mixture of sun and cloud day. As I looked around at the beauty a ladybug landed on the back of my hand. I just observed that ladybug and gave it free run of my hand and arm. I noticed the colors and markings on it. How perfect! I thought and said to the Lord You created each one of these beautiful creatures, placed every mark to perfection. Then I looked at the surroundings, the lake, the hills or mountains, the sky. The colors all blended so perfectly, I was in awe. I could not help but to respond to the Lord speaking to my heart, with that still small voice, through what I was focused in on. " Lord, You are the God of Perfection, You can do no less.". Then it hit me all that I have learned and taught others for many years, " Lord, Your desire for my life is to instill Your Perfection into my life and all You want me to do is believe." . "Thank You, Jesus for loving me so much.Saints, never think that 1.The Lord will give up on us, for He will complete the work He has begun in all our lives until the Day of the Lord. Praise Him.
    What I am thinking is, Pastor, whether we servants are preaching the word of GOD. As we know what Paul spoke was the word of God (Ac13:44-45), he could say he wrote the Spirit of the living GOD on the believers' hearts (2Co3:3), and that Christ was ministered by him, for the word of GOD is the Spirit (Eph6:17). So Paul had strong faith that the One who has begun a good work will complete it (Php1:6).Are we srvants imitating Paul as Paul imitated Christ (1Co11:1)?Let's bear in mind that the word of men is not the Spirit of GOD, no matter how marvellous and persuasive and reasonable and even touching...
     
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    Psa 96:1 O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. Psa 98:1 [[A Psalm.]] O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory. Psa 144:9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery [and] an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.Psa 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise in the congregation of saints. Isa 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. Isaiah 42:10 "Sing unto the Lord a new song, and His praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.""Isles" can mean all nations that are across the waters, both here and there. God is saying that there is a new/renewed song that all the people will sing at Jesus Christ's return. That song that all people that have the victory is recorded in Deuteronomy 32:1-43, and is called the song of Moses. It is the same song refered to in Revelation 15:3, A re-newed song,A new victory , for Moses taught it to the Israelites before they entered the promise land. A new/Renewed Song in the Sense We will Enter a New Promised Land with Christ as King of Kings Lord of Lords A New Victory SongRevelation 151And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. 4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. 5And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
     
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    Psa 96:1 O sing unto the LORD a new song: sing unto the LORD, all the earth. Psa 98:1 [[A Psalm.]] O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory. Psa 144:9 I will sing a new song unto thee, O God: upon a psaltery [and] an instrument of ten strings will I sing praises unto thee.Psa 149:1 Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise in the congregation of saints. Isa 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, [and] his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. Isaiah 42:10 "Sing unto the Lord a new song, and His praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof.""Isles" can mean all nations that are across the waters, both here and there. God is saying that there is a new/renewed song that all the people will sing at Jesus Christ's return. That song that all people that have the victory is recorded in Deuteronomy 32:1-43, and is called the song of Moses. It is the same song refered to in Revelation 15:3, A re-newed song,A new victory , for Moses taught it to the Israelites before they entered the promise land. A new/Renewed Song in the Sense We will Enter a New Promised Land with Christ as King of Kings Lord of Lords A New Victory SongRevelation 151And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God. 2And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God. 3And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. 4Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest. 5And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:
    Hi, Kris, according to Rev14:3, the new song is learnt and sung only by the one hundred forty-four thousand redeemed from the earth. What is the song?
     
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    Its the Same victory song as above the Song of Moses + the singing of the new Victory of the Lamb he has overcome gotten the VictoryRevelation 14:3 "And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts [living creatures], and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth."This is the 144,000 that are finally redeemed [purchased by Christ's blood] from the earth. They are in their spiritual [soul] bodies, which are eternal, incorruptible, and immortal. This is because the last trumpet has sounded, and all people were changed in a twinkling [wink] of an eye [I Corinthians 15:50-54]. Christ is standing with this group on the mount of Olives. They have been "purchased" from this earth age with the blood of the Lamb. They no longer belong to this earth age, but to the next age to come; the Millennium.
     
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    YAHWEH is the song (Ps118:14). Moses was taught to speak by YAHWEH (Ex4:10-12), so what Moses spoke was YAHWEH (Nu9:23). And what the prophets spoke in the revelation of the Spirit of Christ was also YAHWEH (1Pe1:10-12).YAHWEH promised to raise one like Moses (Deut18:17-19, Ac3:22-26). He speaks from the whole Bible and opens the whole Bible so that believers can be the descendants of the covenant, and the words of the Bible which are explained are Jesus himself (Lk24:25-27)--the word of GOD our Savior (Ti2:9-10). Jesus is the Lamb (Jn1:29).Hope this will give an idea of why it is the song of Moses and of the Lamb.Blessings!John
     
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    Yes,true but the song sung are the prasises of/to God and this praise is the Words layed out in The song of Moses and the victory song of the Lamb Jesus Christ it was Moses that taught them the Words.
     
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    Concerning the song, just mentioned that YAHWEH is the song. YAHWEH is our life (Deut30:19-20). The words of the book were YAHWEH (2Ch34:221, 2Ki22:13). So, forsaking YAHWEH, they are to be written in the earth (Jer17:12-13). So, the word of men is not the song. Try to sing Scripture songs. Blessings!
     
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    God tells us the song we will be singing in Rev15:3
     
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    God tells us the song we will be singing in Rev15:3
    Kriss, I will go further about how to tell that it is GOD telling.Jesus answered, man lives not by bread, but by every word that comes from the mouth of GOD (Mt4:4). Then how to know it is GOD speaking? The flesh of Jesus was speaking in the Holy Spirit while on earth (Lk10:21). So, when the Holy Spirit speaks, it is the word from the mouth of GOD.Then how to know that the Holy Spirit is speaking through someone? The Bible says, when the Holy Spirit comes, he will guide us into all truth, and will remind us of what He has heard (Jn16:13-15). As is known to all, the Bible is what the Holy Spirit spoke through his servants (2Pe1:21), of course, it is also what He has heard. When the Holy Spirit speaks, he will keep the prophecy of the book (Rev22:6-7). That's to say, the Holy Spirit will not speak away from the Bible. That's also why it was written, anyone who adds to the book, GOD will add to that person the plagues described in the book; and any one who takes away from the book, GOD will take away that person's share in the tree of life and the Holy city described in the book (Rev22:18-19). Those who add to His word are liars before YAHWEH (Pr30:5-6), and are deceived by the lying spirit (1Ki22:19-23). The word of one's own is a lie before YAHWEH (Job34:5-6).Blessings!John
     
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    I agree with what you say but we are not even on the same topic The word was from the begining Iam not talking the all if scripture I agree the scriptures are Gods Song/Christ was the word/song but thats not what I was talking about. Im talking the New Song they will be singing at the victiry of the lamb.The song the overcomers sing to enter the New promised land at Christs victory Rev. tells us we will be singing a new song the song of Moses the Lambs victory song.
     
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    I agree with what you say but we are not even on the same topic The word was from the begining Iam not talking the all if scripture I agree the scriptures are Gods Song/Christ was the word/song but thats not what I was talking about. Im talking the New Song they will be singing at the victiry of the lamb.The song the overcomers sing to enter the New promised land at Christs victory Rev. tells us we will be singing a new song the song of Moses the Lambs victory song.
    If you give a second thought to the post, you will find I was still on the same topic, perhaps not the way you expect.Blessings!
     
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    Yes in a way your right , I see what you are saying:) but You talking in such a broad sense that the answer to the question gets lost
     
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    Heres a helpful comentary on The song of Moses Deuteronomy 32) 1: Give ear (Cp. Isa.1:2), O all you heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth (Cp. Rev. Chapters 14 & 15), the words of my mouth. 2: My doctrine shall drop as the rain (Heb. lekah. First occ. = good teaching), My speech (= the words of my mouth) shall distil as the dew (the purest water there is. Cp. Mic.5:7), as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass (Latter day rains. First occ. here, cp. Ps.65:10; 726. Jer.3:3; 14:22. Mic.5:7): 3: Because I will publish the name of Yehovah: ascribe you all greatness to our Elohim. 4: The Rock (Used of Yehovah in this song 5 times [the number of grace], vv.4,15,18,30,31. Used twice in irony vv.31,32. Cp. 2 Sam.23:31,32), His work is perfect: for all His ways are judgment (= justified): a El (= Eng. God) of truth and without iniquity (Heb. 'åval, sin in its nature as deceitful, dishonesty, that which is not equal and right, unfairness in dealngs, also rendered unjust), just and right is He. 5: They have corrupted themselves, their spot (= blemish. Spots of a leopard do not change, symbolic of Kenites = the sons of Cain [which is the son of Satan]) is not the spot of His sons: they are a perverse and crooked generation. (The noun "generation", is put last by Fig. Hyperbaton, for emphasis, in contrast with "thee Rock" of v.4, which is there put first. Cp. v.20. Render the verse thus: "A perverse and crooked generation has corrupted itself: To be no sons of His in their blemish) 6: Do you all thus requite Yehovah, O foolish people and unwise? is not He your Father that has bought you? has He not made you, and established you? (the answer is yes!) 7: Remember the days of old (look at your history. Cp. Ps.77:5), consider the years of many generations: ask your father, and he will shew you; your elders (prophets, scholars), and they will tell you. 8: When the Most High (= Elyon) divided to the nations their inheritance (As an inheritance. Cp. v.9. Heb. nåhal = to posses. Not Heb. pålag [Gen.10:25], which = to cleave by disruption, or pårur [Gen.10:5,32], which = to divide by breaking off), when He separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the Peoples according to the number of the sons of Israel. 9: For Yehovah's portion is His People; Jacob is the line of His inheritance (All natural seed of Israel plus those adopted. The line because the inheritance was alloted by a cord or line. Cp. 1 Chron.16:18. Ps.16:6; 19:4. Mic.2:5 ). 10: He found him (i.e. Jacob) in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; He led him about, He instructed him, He kept him as the apple of His eye (First occ. of Heb. båbah, used of the small round dark pupil of the eye. Heb. = hole, gate or door of the eye. Cp.Ps.17:8. See Zech.2:8. Called "pupil" from Latin pupilla = a little girl). 11: As an eagle flutters (same word as Gen.1:2) her nest (put for the young in it), flutters over her young, spreads abroad her wings (in which lies the feathers), takes them, bears them on her wings (in which lies the strength. The eagle encourages them to fly and catches them when they fall): 12: So Yehovah alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him (no false Christ). 13: He made him ride on the high places of the earth, and he did eat the increase of the fruit from land; and He made him to suck honey out of the rock (a rock, as a fortress, unmovable), and oil (honey and oil put for all delicious things) out of the flinty rock (Heb. zûr = rock in situ, sharp and precipitous.Hence a refuge and security); 14: Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan (Confirming the promise of v.13 as to high or mountainous places), and goats, with the fat of kidneys (= white of the kernals) of wheat; and you did drink the unmixed blood of the grape (no contamination). 15: But Jeshurun waxed fat (= the Upright One. First occ. Fig. Metonymy, put for the ideal Israel. Cp. 33:5,26. Isa.44:2, as chosen by God. Also used in irony for Israel when he had it too good), and kicked (=trampled under foot, hence to condemn. Heb. bå'at. First occ.): you are waxen fat, you are grown thick, you are covered with fatness; then he forsook Eloah (The God in respect to worship. First occ.) Which made him, and lightly esteemed the Rock of his salvation. 16: They provoked Him to jealousy (Cp. Ps.78:58) with foreign gods, with abominations provoked they Him to anger (Strange teachings and traditions of men). 17: They sacrificed to devils (= demons, Heb. shêd. First occ. Cp. Ps.106:37. 1 Cor.10:20), not to Eloah; to gods whom they knew not (eg. "Easter", they didn't exist), to new gods that came recently up (=recent, lately. Heb. kårab, as in Judg.5:8), whom your fathers feared not (= trmbled at. Heb. så'ar. Not går,reverence). 18: Of the Rock that begat you you are unmindful, and have forgotten Elohim that formed you. 19: And when Yehovah saw it, He abhorred them (Cp. Ps.106:40), because of the provoking of His sons (the provocation produced by the conduct of His People), and of His daughters. 20: And He said, I will hide My face from them (see 31:17), I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very perverse generation (Heb. haphakpak. First occ), children in whom is no faith (stubborn, denies that He exists). 21: They have moved Me to jealousy with that which is not god; they have provoked (see Rom.10:19) Me to anger with their vanities (= emptyness): and I will move them to jealousy with those which are no People (Arabia, see Amos 6:14. Cp. Ro.10:19; 11:11); I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. 22: For a fire is kindled in Mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell (sh'eôl), and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire (Heb. lahat. First occ.) the foundations of the mountains (bad elements only. See 2 Pet.3:10). 23: I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend Mine arrows upon them (troubles and accidens, named in v.24). 24: They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat (deseases. Heb. repheph. Fist occ.), and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust (Heb. zåhal = to crawl or creep. First occ.). 25: The sword outside (= God's Word), and terror from the inner chambers, shall destroy (= bereave) both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs (no one, i.e. all peoples, all ages can escape Him). 26: I said, I would scatter them into corners (= disperse them, scatter them as the wind. Them = Jacob, the natural seed. The verb på'áh occurs only here. The Servus Codex divides the one word 'aph'êyhem [disperse the] into the three words áph êh, hem, = "I said in anger, Where are they?"), I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among mortals (God allows the enemy to come for correction): 27: Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely (= mistake it. The Heb. nåkar, a Homonym with 3 meanings: #1. to mistake, here; #2. to acknowledge, Job 34:19;#3. to deliver, 1 Sam.23:7. Both A.V. and R.V. miss the first [R.V.= misdeem], admit the second and third [although the R.V. margin suggests "alienated" for "delivered"), and lest they should say, 'Our hand is high, and Yehovah (Note the 5 Divine titles in this song. #5 = grace) has not done all this.' 28: For they are a nation void of council (= deliberation), neither is there any understanding in them (No God no counsil). 29: O that they were wise (cp. Ps.81:13,14), that they understood this, that they would consider their latter end! ("If the would have listened to Me" [God]) 30: How should one chase a thousand (Cp. Lev.26:8. Josh.23:10. 2 Chron.24:24. Isa.30:17), and two put ten thousand to flight (fearless in His service), except their Rock had sold them, and Yehovah had shut them up? 31: For their rock (= Tyrus = Satan.) is not as our Rock (= Christ. Cp. 1 Sam.2:2 and v.4), even our enemies themselves being judges. 32: For their vine is of the vine of Sodom, and of the fields of Gomorrah (perversions): their grapes are grapes of gall, their clusters are bitter: 33: Their wine is the poison of dragons (i.e. the Red Dragon, Satan), and the cruel venom of asps (i.e. The Sepent, Satan). 34: Is not this laid up in store with Me, and sealed up among My treasures? 35: To Me belongs vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste. (2nd half of Isaia that Christ left off in the synagogue) 36: For Yehovah shall vindicate his people (Cp. Lev.26:25. Judg.2:18. Ps.7:8; 135:14. Jer.51:6), and repent Himself for His servants, when He sees that their power is gone, and there is none shut up, or left (Heb. 'åzab, is a Homonym, with two meanings: #1. to leave, or forsake [Gen.2:24; 339:6. Neh.5:10. Ps.49:10. Mal.4:1]; #2. to help, restore, strengthen, shut in, or fortify, as in [Ex.23:5. 1 Kings 14:10. 2 Kings 14:26. Neh.3:8. Jer.49:25]. See the notes on these passages. Hence, here, = defended and protected. Note the perplexity manifested in the margins of the A.V. and R.V.). 37: And He shall say, 'Where are their gods, their rock in whom they trusted (Heb. håsåh = to flee for refuge to, to take shelter in. He [Satan] is in the abyiss, the pit), 38: Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, and let them be your protection. 39: See now that I, even I, am He (cp. Isa.44:8), and there is no god with Me: I kill (cp. 1 Sam.2:6. 2 Kings 5:7), and I make alive; I wound (cp. Job 5:18. Hos.6:1), and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of My hand. 40: For I lift up My hand to heaven (= I swear. The lifting of the hand put by the Fig. Metonymy, for the thing signified by it), and say, I live for ever. 41: If I whet My glittering sword (cp. Rev.19:15), and My hand take hold on justice (or retribution. Cp. Isa.1:24); I will render vengeance to My enemies, and will reward them that hate Me (just dessert). 42: I will make My arrows drunk with blood (= devour), and My sword shall devour flesh; and that with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning (= from the flesh of the chief leader) of revenges upon the enemy. (Just before change into spiritual bodies His Word will slay) 43: Rejoice, O all you nations, with His people (cp. Ps.67:1-7): for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and will render vengeance to His adversaries, and will be merciful (= be propitious, cp. Joel 2:18. Rom.15:9) to His land, and to His people" (the 2 great subjects of the song and of the O.T. This ends Moses' 8th address).
     
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