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My understanding of end time events

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Jay Ross, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:10 AM.

  1. Jay Ross

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    Armageddon is in our near future. and the driving button for the world is an attempt by the nation of Israel to rebuild the Temple and they will come up against Jerusalem to stop the Temple being completed. It is at this time of this gathering, that the wicked heavenly hosts will be judged along with the kings of the earth and they will be imprisoned in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years (Isa 24:21-22, Rev 12:7-9, Rev 20:1-3).

    Immediately, after the judgement of the wicked heavenly hosts and the kings of the earth, all of Israel will be saved (Rom 11:25-26), God will establish His Everlasting Kingdom here on the earth, (Dan2: 44), the Son of man will be given dominion over the peoples of the earth such that they should worship Him (Dan 7:13-14, Rev , and Israel will become the bride of Christ. (Matt 25:1-12).

    Then the souls of those who had been beheaded under the altar in heaven are raised up in the first resurrection to become priests with Christ for 1,000 years.

    Then, after the 1,000 years, the Bottomless pit will be unlocked, Rev 9:1-2, 20:7, and the locusts will rise up out of the bottomless pit and torment the peoples of the earth. Their leader is the “little horn” although some suggest that there is Satan. (Rev 9:3-11)

    This is then followed by the four beast of Daniel 7:1-12 rising up out of the abyss as a single beast and it will utter blasphemies against God and was given authority for 42 months and it will go and make war with the saints and conquer them. (Rev 13;1-10, Dan 7:19-27).

    The little horn, called the false prophet, will also rise up out of the abyss and cause people to worship the beast and images of the beast and give people a mark to indicate that they can buy food because they willingly worship the beast.

    Satan also rises up out of the abyss and realises that he has only a short time to accomplish his heart’s desire to become king over all of the peoples of the earth and he goes out to the nations at the four corners of the earth to deceive them and leads the nations in the Gog Magog war against Jerusalem and enters to establish his kingdom (Ezekiel 38-39, Rev 20:7-9a)

    Christ then leads out the army from heaven and goes against the Beast and the False prophet, capturing them and throwing them into the Lake of fire very near the end of the Millennium Age Rev. 19:11-21, Dan 7:26-27) and then goes up against Satan also capturing him and throwing him into the Lake of fire (Rev 20:9b-10).

    Then Death i.e. death as a result of sin, and Hades are thrown into the lake of fire.

    It is only then that we see Christ coming in all of his glory with all of the hosts of heaven to begin the time of judgement of the peoples of the earth. At his time all of the dead are resurrected and those who are still alive will meet Christ in the air and in the twinkling of an eye all will be given resurrected bodies for the time of our judgement.

    Then the two flocks will be separated and then the separated flock of the sheep and the goats will be separated as well, and the sheep will be separated from the goats and all those not found in the book of life will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire, the wicked and the Goats who did not measure up even though they call Jesus Lord, Lord.

    Then the earth will be restored and healed, (Ezekiel 47:7-11) and the saints will go out onto the fields of battle to remove all of the dead bodies to purify the earth. (Ezekiel 39)

    After this Christ will sound the alarm and all of the Saints will assemble to form the temple to worship God, just as Christ said he would in John 2:19.
     
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    Armageddon is in our near future.>> I read a very intro article about the people of the world will believe that the Ezekiel 38 war is Armageddon ! I looked for it but I could never find it again but made a lot of sense what people will think after this war!{people cant figure out now } about bible prophecy! Enjoy
     
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    Hi JR>> your thread is really bad!> What Christian denomination are you with {My I ask?}
     
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    Please just chill out. The world is unfolding as it should


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    Blessedhope if you cannot add to the thrust of the thread then please find somewhere else to play
     
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    You are right, the world is unfolding as it should, the problem is that many theories exist that have no scriptural bases.

    If the world is unfolding as you are suggesting then please provide your proof texts to substantiate your statement.
     
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    We are going to have to institute a "work day" on this forum to build more sand boxes. <chuckle>
     
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    In your own words.,.,.,.,.

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    But you have not provided the proof text that substantiates your claims that the world is unfolding as it should. You either know or don't know how the world is going to unfold. I have put my cards on the table. How about you do the same.
     
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    The statement is subjective in nature. From day one up to today we are still here; which is a good thing. With that said if it wasn’t we wouldn’t be here to talk about it. The future is another thing altogether but still as I see it, the world is unfolding as it should.

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    If anything, I haven't laughed so hard as did watching this video- in a very long time. I was waiting for the Annunaki to land in my living room and beam me up to Nibiru. I think you might need a joint to appreciate this, of which I do not participate in. I have the impression you do though- that was Trippie! To say the least.
     
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    I concur.
     
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    P.T. Barnum was right.
     
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    Endtimewine,

    You can make a statement like, "I concur," but unless you post your substantiated proofs backed by scripture, your concurrence is really only a meaningless jibe without any substance.
     
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    Not being graced with your unique cultural attributes, I had to google who you were talking about P. T. Barnum - Wikipedia and I agree that your post was just humbug and after reading the influences of the ether world I would conclude that P.T. Barnum would draw the same conclusion with your responding post.
     
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    That is not what the Rev 20:4-6 scriptural passage states. To reign with Christ, you will have had to have lost your head first before the beginning of the Millennium Age. Nowhere in scripture have I been shown scriptural passages which indicate that if I have not lost my head because of my faith in Christ, that I will rule with Christ for 1,000 years in Heaven.

    1 Corinthians 15:50-58: - Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed — in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."

    "O Death, where is your sting?
    O Hades, where is your victory?"


    The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

    Revelation 6:9-11: – When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne; they cried out with a loud voice, "O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before thou wilt judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell upon the earth?" Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.

    In the silence of the above Rev 9 passage, we do not know if the righteous death are whisked up into heaven as you are suggesting. John makes no mention of any other righteous dead in heaven being present. The truth of the matter is that we do not know.

    First of all does not “Christ return in all of His glory with all of the Angels still in/of heaven on the clouds” to separate the flock of people who literally call Jesus “Lord Lord,” Oh, this flock standing before Christ are supposedly the Saints but they too are to be separated into the sheep and the goats, with the goats also being dispatched into the Lake of Fire. So, this flock of supposed Saints you are telling me will be in heaven during the Millennium Age. Really, do you think so.

    So, we both understand that the Kingdom of heaven, God’s Everlasting Kingdom will be established here on the Earth just after the Armageddon judgements of the Kings of the Earth and their armies. But your understanding of when we are to be given these “refreshed bodies” is out by just over 1,000 years. Christ does not return to the earth in the Clouds with all of the Heavenly Host, until the very end of the Millennium Age. He will be seen dealing with the beast, the False prophet and Satan, Hades and the Second death and dispatching them all into the lake of Fire before the end of the Millennium Age, but at the very end of the Millennium Age he return to the face of the earth to judge the peoples of the earth.

    Do you mind quoting the author of this particular theory so that he can be counselled and set straight.
     
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    Really, I had a straight face when I began reading your responses, but your understanding of the Scriptures is questionable. Now in the Parable of the Minas and the Talents, who is the man who goes away for a kingdom?

    Your response to that question will tell me all that I need to know about your understanding of the Scriptures.
     
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    Why do you look to a worldly fulfillment of a kingdom which is not of this world? (rhetorical)

    If we "rightly divide the word of truth", then we will separate that which is of the world from that which is of the kingdom. And if we are of the spirit of God, we will discern the words of scripture, not as they are spoken in parable in the presents of all the world, but know rather that it is only given to us to know the meaning of what was said - not as it was said, but the meaning. If this is not clear to you, I recommend you revisit the scriptures and the fact that it was reiterated that what was written was not written by the measure of the spirit, but "according to the measure of a man"...meaning: in parable. Revelation 21:17
     
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    @ScottA

    If God is judging the kings of the earth on the earth, then will it be God's kingdom on display or is it some kind of earthly kingdom on display.

    God is allowing Satan and his three foul frog like spirits to draw the kings of the earth to Armageddon where they will be judged by God through the actions of Christ.

    In your above post you have indicated that "If we "rightly divide the word of truth", then we will separate that which is of the world from that which is of the kingdom. And if we are of the spirit of God, we will discern the words of scripture, not as they are spoken in parable in the presents of all the world, but know rather that it is only given to us to know the meaning of what was said - not as it was said, but the meaning. If this is not clear to you, I recommend you revisit the scriptures and the fact that it was reiterated that what was written was not written by the measure of the spirit, but "according to the measure of a man"...meaning: in parable." Does this mean that your spiritualised understanding is the right understanding of scripture?

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    ScottA expressing an opinion is fine, but when you do not back that opinion up with scripture, your opinion holds the same value as other members like blessed hope.
     
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    God said He "confounded" all language (meaning even the scriptures) at the tower of Babel. Then Jesus (not me) said that His "words are spirit." And He said "all things come in parables." So, if you want to read His words as just literature, then you are going to miss the whole truth.

    As for spiritualizing....I should hope that all who love the Lord would spiritualize all things...for "God is spirit."
     
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