No Life Of Your Own

[soul man]

The lieing spirit that told Adam - surely you won't die - is the same antagonizing spirit today that tries to get you to have a life of your own (surely you won't die). That saints is a lieing spirit that has plagued humanity from the beginning. Because we are crucified in Christ and have no life of our own. It is the lieing spirit that tries to keep you alive by the old man. We call it "the old man syndrome" because the old man is dead if your in Christ - but oh that mind plays all the games - the old man syndrome. Not the old man but the memories of the mind from the old man. That is THE lie - you are as dead as Jesus Christ - The Son of the living God when he laid a dead head on dead shoulders.

20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20.

Glory to God for he has risen and lives to be the only life of everyone that will believe God and His finished work on that cursed tree. Selah.

 

[amadeus]

@soul man Yes, no life of our own is, I believe, the truth of the matter although most people do not believe that. They do believe it theirs to do with as they see fit. Stewards is what all of us are... and many of us, in the eyes of God, very poor stewards at that.

You said:
"We call it "the old man syndrome" because the old man is dead if your in Christ"

What I see is that most believers are like the natural children of Israel/Jacob in wilderness after the tabernacle in wilderness was in place and the priesthood of Aaron was making all of those temporary intercessions on behalf of the people. Those people would go in to see the priest and back out into their world outside of the tabernacle enclosure repeatedly. They would go out and do again what they had done before against the laws in place and then I would say that a few of them really were smote in their hearts that one more time they had failed and returned for a new atonement by a priest for the new error of the moment or day.

In the NT, both Jesus and Paul do write about it, and James speaks of it as being double-minded. We are double-minded when and if we try to ride the fence between what the old man desires and what the new man knows according to God is needed. So we, if we do care at all about God, may swing back and forth between following the old man and following the new man. We keep going in and out of the tabernacle of God desiring forgiveness and atonement.

Of course, some people only mouth their leaders words putting on a front for others to see. They never seriously have tried to actually always follow the lead of any new man. Some likely have never even received such a new man... They simply follow their own heads believing still that it is their own life to do with as they please. I do not believe the 'old man' is completely dead until we are no longer tempted by the things of this world which when followed do lead us to sin:

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." I John 2:15-17

Our own little world of sin [the old man] has not yet passed away so the drawing lusts continue to attract us toward sin and the struggles continue between the old man and new man. The old man does not have a chance in a real battle, but when a person continues to ride the fence all of the time that means the person himself in his lukewarm condition is quenching [limiting] the Spirit of God [the power of the new man] and eventually will be spit out of God's mouth...

 

[soul man]

@soul man Yes, no life of our own is, I believe, the truth of the matter although most people do not believe that. They do believe it theirs to do with as they see fit. Stewards is what all of us are... and many of us, in the eyes of God, very poor stewards at that.

You said:
"We call it "the old man syndrome" because the old man is dead if your in Christ"

What I see is that most believers are like the natural children of Israel/Jacob in wilderness after the tabernacle in wilderness was in place and the priesthood of Aaron was making all of those temporary intercessions on behalf of the people. Those people would go in to see the priest and back out into their world outside of the tabernacle enclosure repeatedly. They would go out and do again what they had done before against the laws in place and then I would say that a few of them really were smote in their hearts that one more time they had failed and returned for a new atonement by a priest for the new error of the moment or day.

In the NT, both Jesus and Paul do write about it, and James speaks of it as being double-minded. We are double-minded when and if we try to ride the fence between what the old man desires and what the new man knows according to God is needed. So we, if we do care at all about God, may swing back and forth between following the old man and following the new man. We keep going in and out of the tabernacle of God desiring forgiveness and atonement.

Of course, some people only mouth their leaders words putting on a front for others to see. They never seriously have tried to actually always follow the lead of any new man. Some likely have never even received such a new man... They simply follow their own heads believing still that it is their own life to do with as they please. I do not believe the 'old man' is completely dead until we are no longer tempted by the things of this world which when followed do lead us to sin:

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." I John 2:15-17

Our own little world of sin [the old man] has not yet passed away so the drawing lusts continue to attract us toward sin and the struggles continue between the old man and new man. The old man does not have a chance in a real battle, but when a person continues to ride the fence all of the time that means the person himself in his lukewarm condition is quenching [limiting] the Spirit of God [the power of the new man] and eventually will be spit out of God's mouth...

Yes sir that old man mind is a rascal :+)

 

[Nancy]

@soul man Yes, no life of our own is, I believe, the truth of the matter although most people do not believe that. They do believe it theirs to do with as they see fit. Stewards is what all of us are... and many of us, in the eyes of God, very poor stewards at that.

You said:
"We call it "the old man syndrome" because the old man is dead if your in Christ"

What I see is that most believers are like the natural children of Israel/Jacob in wilderness after the tabernacle in wilderness was in place and the priesthood of Aaron was making all of those temporary intercessions on behalf of the people. Those people would go in to see the priest and back out into their world outside of the tabernacle enclosure repeatedly. They would go out and do again what they had done before against the laws in place and then I would say that a few of them really were smote in their hearts that one more time they had failed and returned for a new atonement by a priest for the new error of the moment or day.

In the NT, both Jesus and Paul do write about it, and James speaks of it as being double-minded. We are double-minded when and if we try to ride the fence between what the old man desires and what the new man knows according to God is needed. So we, if we do care at all about God, may swing back and forth between following the old man and following the new man. We keep going in and out of the tabernacle of God desiring forgiveness and atonement.

Of course, some people only mouth their leaders words putting on a front for others to see. They never seriously have tried to actually always follow the lead of any new man. Some likely have never even received such a new man... They simply follow their own heads believing still that it is their own life to do with as they please. I do not believe the 'old man' is completely dead until we are no longer tempted by the things of this world which when followed do lead us to sin:

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." I John 2:15-17

Our own little world of sin [the old man] has not yet passed away so the drawing lusts continue to attract us toward sin and the struggles continue between the old man and new man. The old man does not have a chance in a real battle, but when a person continues to ride the fence all of the time that means the person himself in his lukewarm condition is quenching [limiting] the Spirit of God [the power of the new man] and eventually will be spit out of God's mouth...

Great reply John,
It is all or nothing with our God. Either we serve one or the other...