Non-distinct Sinners

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Netchaplain

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The Jews who believes in God (“Ye believe in God” JN 14:1 - KJV), but not yet in Christ until they see Him, will be translated and restored in fellowship with Him later. These Jewish believers in God will inherit the new earth. But to inherit the new heaven one must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Non-distinct Sinners

How amazingly different Paul’s method of provoking the Jews “to jealousy” (Rom 11:11), from that pursued by many Jewish mission workers today! For them the Jew must have a “special” place as a Jew. In some quarters they are even organizing “Messianic assemblies” (the Messianic ministry of Christ is over and, to enter heaven, the Jew now must come to Christ like the Gentile does. This Messianic ministry was to the Jew only, but now is removed—NC)!

All this, we cannot but feel, is abominable kowtowing to Jewish flesh, and can hinder their salvation. Jews now are common sinners (Jews who believe in God inherit the new earth, but to inherit heaven you must be Christian—NC), who have for the present been set aside nationally (but not abandoned by God—NC), and must come to rely, as individual sinners, hopelessly guilty and helpless, upon the shed Blood of Christ, and upon Him risen from the dead. It as an awful thing to make present day Jewish claims, when God says Jews during this present dispensation, are no different from Gentiles before Him: but are just—sinners!

There are those who insist that the Jew has a special place right through this dispensation; that he must always be “first” (Rom 1:16; 2:10), that there is a difference, although God says plainly in Romans 3 that there is no difference as to the Lordship of Christ and the availability of salvation to the “whosoever’s,” Jew or Gentile. If Paul were among us today, he would abhor and decry the special, esoteric methods of approach to the Jew in vogue in some pretentious quarters today. Become all things to the Jew, to win him, certainly. Paul did. But tell him the truth that he is just a whosoever.

What the poor Jewish exiles need this hour is a Paul to go right in amongst them with a “whosoever” message for sinners, “provoking them to jealousy” by boasting in a Savior whom their nation has lost—a nation to whom God is not now offering a Messiah (Christ’s ministry of Messiahship which was only to the Jew—NC), but instead salvation, as common “whosoever’s,” non-distinction people, ordinary guilty lost sinners. In Acts 28 God through Paul officially closed the door to the national offer of the Gospel to the Jews (now it’s an individual offer like all—NC); thereafter to treat the Jew as having a special place with God is to deny Scripture.

In Acts 28:25, 28 Paul officially shuts the door to national Israel: “Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers . . . Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it” (of course not to boast, but there will be mostly Gentile Christians in heaven—NC).

The Gospel has no Jewish bounds or bonds whatever. It is presumption and danger now, to give the Jews any other place than that of common sinners! “No distinction between Jew and Greek” (Rom 10:12) says God. Those who preach thus have God’s blessings. Those that would give and special place whatever to Jews, since that day (Acts 28:28), do so contrary to the Gospel; and, we fear, for private advantage.

Tell Jews the truth! Their Messiah was offered to their nation and rejected. God is not offering a Messiah to Israel now, but has Himself “cast” them “away” (Ro 11:15 - “broken them off” v17 - until their restoration—NC): all except a “remnant,” who leave Jewish earthly hopes, break down into sinners only, and receive a sinners Savior—not a Jewish one! Then they become “partakers of a heavenly calling” (Heb 3:1).

—Wm R Newell (1868-1956)


“The majority of believers today are in legal bondage because they do not see the essential difference between our position and that of Israel under the Law. Israel depended upon their own obedience to get their blessings in the land. Christians receive their blessings because of the Lord Jesus’ obedience in their stead. He paid in full “the wages of sin”—which was death (Romans 6:23): and we have the “free gift of God”—eternal life.” - W. R. N.



MJS daily devotional for May 29

Just whose side are we on? The enemy who would occupy us with ourselves, or the Comforter who would occupy us with the risen Lord Jesus? -MJS

“If we have only learned the Lord at our own side, the tendency is to be occupied with ourselves, or to seek to be an object of consideration; whereas if we have been led by the Spirit to His side, His interests and concerns will singularly occupy us.”

“The natural inclination is to make oneself the center of everything passing, how it pains or cheers oneself, even musing on oneself as if one were the one solitary object for the sunshine or the cloud to rest on. If I am a hero, or a martyr to myself, I look at and regard divine things as they suit my thinking about myself, and not as answering to what He is thinking of me. I am confining the Lord to myself instead of rising up and seeing myself lost in Him, and then following Him in all the greatness and blessedness of His work and ways down here.” -J. B. Stoney (1814-1897)
 

Randy Kluth

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The Jews who believes in God (“Ye believe in God” JN 14:1 - KJV), but not yet in Christ until they see Him, will be translated and restored in fellowship with Him later. These Jewish believers in God will inherit the new earth. But to inherit the new heaven one must believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Brother, I've heard this distinction between Jews/Israel on earth and the International Church in heaven. What is this based on? It appears to originate from Dispensationalism. Am I wrong?
How amazingly different Paul’s method of provoking the Jews “to jealousy” (Rom 11:11), from that pursued by many Jewish mission workers today! For them the Jew must have a “special” place as a Jew. In some quarters they are even organizing “Messianic assemblies” (the Messianic ministry of Christ is over and, to enter heaven, the Jew now must come to Christ like the Gentile does. This Messianic ministry was to the Jew only, but now is removed—NC)!
I early was introduced to Messianic ministry when the Liberated Wailing Wall came to our church, and when Lamb gave us the beautiful song, "The Sacrifice Lamb." For a time I supported, financially, the ministry of Jews for Jesus, headed by Moshe Rosen. And they were accused of not being truly Jewish by those in Judaism. They were viewed as too traditionally Christian, as opposed to those embracing the Jewish culture.

I do think some of the Messianic ministry is "too Jewish." Christ is certainly bigger than cultural heritage. But the idea is to use their language to reach them, just as we would learn German to reach the Germans. Mixing in too much "Law of Moses" is a problem, but can we find a definitive line of demarcation?
All this, we cannot but feel, is abominable kowtowing to Jewish flesh, and can hinder their salvation. Jews now are common sinners (Jews who believe in God inherit the new earth, but to inherit heaven you must be Christian—NC), who have for the present been set aside nationally (but not abandoned by God—NC), and must come to rely, as individual sinners, hopelessly guilty and helpless, upon the shed Blood of Christ, and upon Him risen from the dead. It as an awful thing to make present day Jewish claims, when God says Jews during this present dispensation, are no different from Gentiles before Him: but are just—sinners!
True that is. Jews still have national promises as yet unfulfilled, and maintain their calling. But until they are converted to Christ they are no better than pagans with respect to spiritual salvation.
There are those who insist that the Jew has a special place right through this dispensation; that he must always be “first” (Rom 1:16; 2:10), that there is a difference, although God says plainly in Romans 3 that there is no difference as to the Lordship of Christ and the availability of salvation to the “whosoever’s,” Jew or Gentile. If Paul were among us today, he would abhor and decry the special, esoteric methods of approach to the Jew in vogue in some pretentious quarters today. Become all things to the Jew, to win him, certainly. Paul did. But tell him the truth that he is just a whosoever.
Here again the distinction is less clear than I would like. Paul clearly said, "to the Jew 1st," and "the call of God is irrevocable." So just like showing respect for the office of politician, policeman, or clergyman, despite their personal failures, we should show respect for the "Jewish calling," right?

When Paul said there there is "no difference" with respect to ethnicity in matters of partiality, he clearly was not saying that there is no longer such thing as ethnic differences! To the Red, White, Black, and Brown there must be respect for each cultural group, despite religious differences. To the Jew there should be respect for their religious calling regardless of their lack of faith.
What the poor Jewish exiles need this hour is a Paul to go right in amongst them with a “whosoever” message for sinners, “provoking them to jealousy” by boasting in a Savior whom their nation has lost—a nation to whom God is not now offering a Messiah (Christ’s ministry of Messiahship which was only to the Jew—NC), but instead salvation, as common “whosoever’s,” non-distinction people, ordinary guilty lost sinners. In Acts 28 God through Paul officially closed the door to the national offer of the Gospel to the Jews (now it’s an individual offer like all—NC); thereafter to treat the Jew as having a special place with God is to deny Scripture.
I'm not sure God closed the door of "national offering" to the Jews if indeed His promises for their national restoration remains? I would agree that God took the earthly Kingdom of God from Israel and gave it to Christian nations, which at that time came to be European Civilization. But the Gospel message to the Jew cannot just be "individual" if it also promises a restoration of his society and nationality?

It would be the same thing as telling me, an American, that my Christian hope is only in my own personal salvation, and not in my family's salvation, nor in any spiritual revival in my country. I should think that the hope is more holistic than just my own individual destiny?
 

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We are all sinners and will always be sinners until Jesus gives us a body like His the ternal capacity to not sin. Can you imagine a sinful person that sins who has temptation to sin every minute, being sinless for billions of years. Its going to be some body Jesus gives us. God is going to destroy everything sinful, and eliminate it from the universe not just the world.