Not faith alone?

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Phil 1:29

For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;
 
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How does 2 Thessalonians 3:3 (kjv) apply to the verse in the OP?

2Th 3:3, But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil.
 

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The moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation we are saved. It’s by grace through faith, not works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)
Yes but without works you can end up in the lake of fire. Matthew 25:41
 
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Nevertheless we are saved "not of works, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:9 (kjv))
Yes a disabled person is not required to perform works or a little child, but able followers are required to do works clearly.
 
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Yes a disabled person is not required to perform works or a little child, but able followers are required to do works clearly.
If Jesus gives you a talent to go and trade and produce with and you hide it in the sand, you will be counted as a lazy and slothful servant...and may even be cast into outer darkness.
 
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Good works come in obedience to Christ along with Salvation. The works talked about in Scripture were works of the law which grants Salvation to no one.
 
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Do you understand what believers mean by salvation through faith (rightly understood) in Christ alone?

I reject any Calvinist doctrine are any that say faith alone, we are never saved by our faith alone. Yes I understand the error of Protestantism. While I say Salvation is in Christ it is never in faith alone but by God's Grace alone through faith
 

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Good works come in obedience to Christ along with Salvation. The works talked about in Scripture were works of the law which grants Salvation to no one.

It does not only talk about the works of the law as not being salvational; but works in general.
 
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I reject any Calvinist doctrine are any that say faith alone, we are never saved by our faith alone. Yes I understand the error of Protestantism. While I say Salvation is in Christ it is never in faith alone but by God's Grace alone through faith
Apparently you don't understand. Saying that we are saved by faith in Christ alone does not exclude God's Grace. Grace is God's part and faith is man's part. It simply means that we are saved the moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation apart from works. (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9 etc..).