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This is taken from the site: NaturalNews.com

The main article title:
After backlash from vaccine skeptics, Trump appears to be distancing himself from vaccines as the “cure-all” for dealing with the coronavirus pandemic

One of its sections and the excerpt of interest for this thread:
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Why is Trump ignoring the crucial role of nutrition and immune support?

To this day, Trump still has made no mention of vitamin C, vitamin D or zinc — three nutrients that are backed by tremendous scientific knowledge in their ability to prevent the spread of infectious diseases. All three nutrients are affordable and widely available right now. No one has to wait a year to get them, yet Trump has neglected to mention nutrition at all, instead focusing on vaccines and Big Pharma as the only possible solution to the pandemic.

His top advisor, Dr. Fauci, seems to think that the American people should stay locked down until an experimental vaccine is commercially available and administered to everyone. Essentially, he asserts that no one should be allowed to leave their homes until they are injected with Big Pharma’s experimental cocktail that may or may not end up being safe.

Raising numerous red flags about a possible military-pharma police state in America, yesterday, President Trump said he would mobilize the U.S. military to distribute and administer coronavirus vaccines, invoking questions about why armed military soldiers would be involved in administering vaccines on U.S. soil. Under President Trump, the U.S. Dept, of Defense recently awarded a contract for up to 500 million injection devices that can be equipped with RFID tags and GPS location data that’s synced with a government cloud database.

It’s the perfect storm for a Big Pharma medical police state where the American people are vaccinated at gunpoint while the government tracks the vaccine status of every individual. If Trump continues down this road, he’s going to lose most of his political support, as pro-liberty, pro-America individuals have no appetite for being lined up like cattle and injected at gunpoint with risky, unsafe vaccines that were fast-tracked through the system under “Operation Warp Speed.”

Should Trump continue that effort, he will be pursuing his own “Operation Warped Mind” that will end in his defeat in November, likely followed by an armed uprising and civil war battle for the future of America.

If Trump sends soldiers door to door, forcibly injecting people against their will, they’d better be prepared to start taking live fire
Is Trump going to sacrifice the American people to serve as guinea pigs for Big Pharma’s insane vaccine experiments? We’ll have to wait and see how that one turns out. But as someone who is very much connected to the vaccine skeptics movement, I can assure the President that any effort to force vaccine mandates on the American people will result in an explosion of armed resistance from both progressives and conservatives.

From the progressive side of things, they won’t trust the rushed vaccine because it will be seen as “Trump’s vaccine.” For conservatives, they won’t tolerate any violation of their body and their blood by a tyrannical regime of corrupt vaccine zealots.

This is America. We don’t line up like cattle to be injected with your experimental medicine. Forced vaccines are medical RAPE, and any form of violent assault against an individual will be resisted with lethal force. In other words, if Trump really thinks U.S. soldiers are going to go door to door, forcibly injecting people with vaccines and yanking them out of their homes if they refuse to comply, those soldiers had better be prepared to start taking live fire from the citizens who have, plainly stated, had quite enough of the lockdowns, the government lies, the techno-fascist censorship and the Big Brother surveillance society.

We have reached the point where a large number of Americans would rather sacrifice their lives fighting for freedom than surrender to one more layer of tyranny from a corrupt, criminal system of junk science and treacherous vaccines led by criminals against humanity like Dr. Fauci (who belongs in prison for life, or perhaps even facing execution if found guilty of funding bioweapons development efforts in China).

The Second Amendment wasn’t particularly created to allow the citizens to resist vaccine tyranny, but it sure does work in that context, too. You attack us with a needle; we shoot back with AR-15s. Do the math.
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This article makes a lot of sense. I do not however agree with several of this author's views on this site. This one I agree on.
 

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We have reached the point where a large number of Americans would rather sacrifice their lives fighting for freedom than surrender to one more layer of tyranny from a corrupt, criminal system of junk science and treacherous vaccines led by criminals against humanity like Dr. Fauci (who belongs in prison for life, or perhaps even facing execution if found guilty of funding bioweapons development efforts in China).
I would agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment.

At the time Donald Trump ran for office, he had a platform which made perfect sense. And he was elected because of that. However, he has made numerous blunders all through his first term of office, and his greatest blunder has been his response to the weaponized Wuhan virus and the insane lockdown of America.

The last person who should have been on his Task Force was Anthony Fauci, but somehow Trump was either mesmerized or hypnotized into allowing this fraud to determine the American response to the Chinese virus (for which Fauci was partly responsible). It would seem that a demon has worked overtime to trick Trump, and he has been seriously tricked.

If Trump goes ahead with his totally stupid idea of having the US military forcibly try to vaccinate the general population, he is simply asking for an armed uprising against himself. All flu vaccines have been only about 40% effective, while they have also killed people. Because the COVID-19 vaccine is being hurriedly prepared under a nefarious agenda (which Trump should know by now), it is entirely possible that this will be a bogus vaccine. And people should refuse to be vaccinated when Fauci and Gates are involved, since Fauci is also trying to sabotage hydroxychloroquine by omitting zinc from the NIH trials. Zinc sulphate is a key component of that treatment.
 
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@Enoch111 , I agree with you on all points. I brought this up because if Trump is really this naive he can single-handedly get us in a real mess and allow this entire fiasco of the virus, the economy, unemployment and bad blood all around, to escalate. I hope and pray he is really listening to alternative advice besides from these deep state statists and operatives...APAK
 
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This is what I've been saying for a few months now on the subject of masks....how it degrades your immune system and increases your changes of getting any disease through your mouth, nose and eyes...and makes it more acute and even deadly.
This is an excerpt about what a neurosurgeon thinks on the subject written down for him be someone else..

NEUROSURGEON SAYS FACE MASKS POSE SERIOUS RISK TO HEALTHY PEOPLE
There is no scientific evidence that it is effective against COVID-19 transmission, he says
Megan Fox | PJ Media - MAY 15, 2020 30 Comments



IMAGE CREDITS: ALEKSANDR ZUBKOV / GETTY.

Every Karen on Facebook is shaming her neighbors for not wearing a face mask.

We are being told by governors that if we don’t wear them we are selfish, horrible human beings with no souls who want Grandma to die a horrible death. Police are tackling people who don’t wear them properly in the subway. Grocery stores are throwing maskless people out and denying them service. But now, there’s another doctor weighing in—besides Dr. Fauci, bonafide sex god and ruler of us all, who also said face masks are largely security theater and of no use to the healthy. Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon, has written an editorial saying that “masks pose serious risks to the healthy.”

First, Blaylock says, there is no scientific evidence that it is effective against COVID-19 transmission. Pro-science people should care about this.


As for the scientific support for the use of face mask, a recent careful examination of the literature, in which 17 of the best studies were analyzed, concluded that, “ None of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.” Keep in mind, no studies have been done to demonstrate that either a cloth mask or the N95 mask has any effect on transmission of the COVID-19 virus. Any recommendations, therefore, have to be based on studies of influenza virus transmission. And, as you have seen, there is no conclusive evidence of their efficiency in controlling flu virus transmission.

It is also instructive to know that until recently, the CDC did not recommend wearing a face mask or covering of any kind, unless a person was known to be infected, that is, until recently. Non-infected people need not wear a mask. When a person has TB we have them wear a mask, not the entire community of non-infected. The recommendations by the CDC and the WHO are not based on any studies of this virus and have never been used to contain any other virus pandemic or epidemic in history.

Beyond the lack of scientific data to support wearing a mask as a deterrent to a virus, Blaylock says the more pressing concern is what can and will happen to the wearer.

Now that we have established that there is no scientific evidence necessitating the wearing of a face mask for prevention, are there dangers to wearing a face mask, especially for long periods? Several studies have indeed found significant problems with wearing such a mask. This can vary from headaches, to increased airway resistance, carbon dioxide accumulation, to hypoxia, all the way to serious life-threatening complications.

There are studies to back that claim up.

In one such study, researchers surveyed 212 healthcare workers (47 males and 165 females) asking about presence of headaches with N95 mask use, duration of the headaches, type of headaches and if the person had preexisting headaches.

They found that about a third of the workers developed headaches with use of the mask, most had preexisting headaches that were worsened by the mask wearing, and 60% required pain medications for relief. As to the cause of the headaches, while straps and pressure from the mask could be causative, the bulk of the evidence points toward hypoxia and/or hypercapnia as the cause. That is, a reduction in blood oxygenation (hypoxia) or an elevation in blood C02 (hypercapnia). It is known that the N95 mask, if worn for hours, can reduce blood oxygenation as much as 20%, which can lead to a loss of consciousness, as happened to the hapless fellow driving around alone in his car wearing an N95 mask, causing him to pass out, and to crash his car and sustain injuries. I am sure that we have several cases of elderly individuals or any person with poor lung function passing out, hitting their head. This, of course, can lead to death.

A more recent study involving 159 healthcare workers aged 21 to 35 years of age found that 81% developed headaches from wearing a face mask. Some had pre-existing headaches that were precipitated by the masks. All felt like the headaches affected their work performance.

Blaylock says studies have also shown that face masks impair oxygen intake dramatically, potentially leading to serious problems.

The importance of these findings is that a drop in oxygen levels (hypoxia) is associated with an impairment in immunity. Studies have shown that hypoxia can inhibit the type of main immune cells used to fight viral infections called the CD4+ T-lymphocyte. This occurs because the hypoxia increases the level of a compound called hypoxia inducible factor-1 (HIF-1), which inhibits T-lymphocytes and stimulates a powerful immune inhibitor cell called the Tregs. . This sets the stage for contracting any infection, including COVID-19 and making the consequences of that infection much graver. In essence, your mask may very well put you at an increased risk of infections and if so, having a much worse outcome.

In other words, if you wear a face mask and contract some sickness, you will not be able to fight it off as effectively as if you had normal blood oxygen levels. The mask could make you sicker. It could also create a “deadly cytokine storm” in some.

There is another danger to wearing these masks on a daily basis, especially if worn for several hours. When a person is infected with a respiratory virus, they will expel some of the virus with each breath. If they are wearing a mask, especially an N95 mask or other tightly fitting mask, they will be constantly rebreathing the viruses, raising the concentration of the virus in the lungs and the nasal passages. We know that people who have the worst reactions to the coronavirus have the highest concentrations of the virus early on. And this leads to the deadly cytokine storm in a selected number.

How about cancer, heart attacks, and strokes? Blaylock says face masks can make all of those conditions worse.

People with cancer, especially if the cancer has spread, will be at a further risk from prolonged hypoxia as the cancer grows best in a microenvironment that is low in oxygen. Low oxygen also promotes inflammation which can promote the growth, invasion and spread of cancers. Repeated episodes of hypoxia has been proposed as a significant factor in atherosclerosis and hence increases all cardiovascular (heart attacks) and cerebrovascular (strokes) diseases.

If that’s not bad enough, how would you like COVID-19 in your brain?

It gets even more frightening. Newer evidence suggests that in some cases the virus can enter the brain. In most instances it enters the brain by way of the olfactory nerves (smell nerves), which connect directly with the area of the brain dealing with recent memory and memory consolidation. By wearing a mask, the exhaled viruses will not be able to escape and will concentrate in the nasal passages, enter the olfactory nerves and travel into the brain.

Why is it that we only listen to dire predictions from Dr. Fauci and we don’t consult other experts in the field of medicine? Is Anthony Fauci the only qualified person to talk about this virus? Furthermore, if he is, he agrees with Dr. Blaylock that only sick people should wear them and he said so on 60 Minutes. So why aren’t we listening to him?

WHY AREN'T WE LISTENING TO SOUND ADVICE and then throwing into the mugs of our local politicians? I've been making it clear with some of my local power trippers whilst avoiding getting personal and only stating the facts, and only the facts. They still hide their heads in the sand..

WEARING A MASK POSED POTENTIAL HEALTH HAZARDS and EVEN CAUSES DEATH

There is no upside to wearing the mask if you are healthy. And if naysayers say well you could be asymptomatic. Then I say wait 14 days, that should be enough time to put that whine and lame excuse to bed.

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I gotta say, my hope that Trump is going to save us all from the venomous, needle-like fangs of big pharma is diminishing
Even more so after reading this article...

Trump to name vaccine czar; a former executive of a Big Pharma drug giant that admitted to FELONY crimes under $3 billion settlement with DOJ

Here is a quote from Trump
“We’re mobilizing our military and other forces but we’re mobilizing our military on the basis that we do have a vaccine. You know, it’s a massive job to give this vaccine. Our military is now being mobilized so at the end of the year we’re going to be able to give it to a lot of people very, very rapidly,”

That doesn't exactly renew my hope in Trump

The Department of Defense has ordered 500 million syringes, not just any old syringes but syringes with some kind of digital tracking in them

The website of the company that produces these syringes has this
With an optional RFID/NFC tag on each BFS prefilled syringe, ApiJect will make this possible. Before giving an injection, the healthcare worker will be able to launch a free mobile app and “tap” the prefilled syringe on their phone, capturing the NFC tag’s unique serial number, GPS location and date/time. The app then uploads the data to a government-selected cloud database. Aggregated injection data provides health administrators an evolving real-time “injection map.”

500 million. Why would they order that many if not to mandate them. Why call up the military to distribute the vaccine if not to force them
There is an interesting 12 minute video on this website that i enjoyed... Check it out

Emergency report: Big Pharma's plot to use the coronavirus to ENSLAVE humanity
 

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I gotta say, my hope that Trump is going to save us all from the venomous, needle-like fangs of big pharma is diminishing
Even more so after reading this article...

Trump to name vaccine czar; a former executive of a Big Pharma drug giant that admitted to FELONY crimes under $3 billion settlement with DOJ

Here is a quote from Trump
“We’re mobilizing our military and other forces but we’re mobilizing our military on the basis that we do have a vaccine. You know, it’s a massive job to give this vaccine. Our military is now being mobilized so at the end of the year we’re going to be able to give it to a lot of people very, very rapidly,”

That doesn't exactly renew my hope in Trump

The Department of Defense has ordered 500 million syringes, not just any old syringes but syringes with some kind of digital tracking in them

The website of the company that produces these syringes has this
With an optional RFID/NFC tag on each BFS prefilled syringe, ApiJect will make this possible. Before giving an injection, the healthcare worker will be able to launch a free mobile app and “tap” the prefilled syringe on their phone, capturing the NFC tag’s unique serial number, GPS location and date/time. The app then uploads the data to a government-selected cloud database. Aggregated injection data provides health administrators an evolving real-time “injection map.”

500 million. Why would they order that many if not to mandate them. Why call up the military to distribute the vaccine if not to force them
There is an interesting 12 minute video on this website that i enjoyed... Check it out

Emergency report: Big Pharma's plot to use the coronavirus to ENSLAVE humanity

Yep I agree with it all. I'm just hope Trump means 'mobilizing' a standing army as when they/he has/have in the past on a regional emergency scale to distribute water and food when folks are out of utilities, gas and electric power is cut off, and without water at the house during and after a hurricane..for several weeks. Maybe I'm too optimistic...I just cannot go to the extreme thought just now, of facing dire straits with armed soldiers surgically moving around in my neighborhood ....until I get more data....

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That doesn't exactly renew my hope in Trump...
It looks like Mr. Trump has done a total about-face regarding his pledge to uphold the Constitution. But here is something that has just been published in the UK Daily Mail, which should really stop Trump in his tracks, and cause him to reject any idea of forced vaccinations.

'There is a cure': California biotech company claims it has discovered an antibody that can block '100%' of coronavirus infections

Sorrento Therapeutics of California is set to announce that it has discovered an antibody that can completely block coronavirus. Scientists with the company are calling it a 'cure' and say the antibody could be used to make a treatment months before a vaccine is available. Up to 200,000 doses could be made a month while Sorrento awaits FDA approval for the drug

Scientists at a California biotech company have found an antibody that completely blocks coronavirus in a discovery they called a 'cure,' Fox News reported. Sorrento Therapeutics, based in San Diego, claims its STI-1499 antibody stopped coronavirus from entering 100 percent of healthy human cells in petri dish experiments. It's one of several antibodies planned to be combined for a drug 'cocktail' Sorrento is developing in collaboration with Mt Sinai School of Medicine in New York.

In a press release, Sorrento said it could produce up to 200,000 doses of the antibody a month - a production timeline that would likely make the drug available months sooner than a COVID-19 vaccine is expected. The company has filed for emergency approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has not yet received the green light. Stocks for Sorrento soared by nearly 220 percent on the heels of the announcement...

Scientists at a California biotech company say they've discovered an antibody that can '100%' block the coronavirus from entering human cells - and they're claiming it's a 'cure'. Amid the pandemic, scientists at Sorrento began testing its library of billions of antibodies for potential to protect against coronavirus. Stocks for Sorrento surged nearly 220% on the heels of its announcement 'We want to emphasize there is a cure,' Sorrento's CEO, Dr Henry Ji, told Fox. 'There is a solution that works 100 percent. 'If we have the neutralizing antibody in your body, you don't need the social distancing. You can open up a society without fear.'

However, this is a significant 'if.' Promising though its effects on the virus were in lab tests on human cells, the company can't rightfully say that it has blocked the infection in the human body. The antibody has not yet been tested in people, so how it might behave inside the body and its potential side effects are totally unknown.

It comes the same day that the Trump administration's social distancing guidelines to slow the spread are expiring, and as many states begin to reopen despite expert warnings that relaxing restrictions may trigger a devastating second wave of infections.

Sorrento's drug, dubbed STI-1499 is one of about a dozen antibodies - immune cells that neutralize pathogens like coronavirus - that the company discovered had some effect on coronavirus. A cocktail of antibodies could act like a 'protective shield' for human cells, preventing the virus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 - from entering them. It blocks the virus from its primary doorway, a receptor on the surface of human cells, the ACE2 receptor.

'This puts its arms around the virus. It wraps around the virus and moves them out of the body,' Dr Ji told Fox of what his company has seen in lab experiments. 'When the antibody prevents a virus from entering a human cell, the virus cannot survive. 'If they cannot get into the cell, they cannot replicate. So it means that if we prevent the virus from getting the cell, the virus eventually dies out. The body clears out that virus.'

Multiple companies and universities around the world have been exploring the use of antibodies to treat coronavirus. Encouragingly, the antibody discovered by Sorrento belongs to a class called 'neutralizing,' or binding antibodies. They fully and specifically bind to the part of the virus that fits like a lock in a key with parts of human cells.

According to Dr Derek Lowe, an organic chemist who writes for Science Translational Medicine, these both block the virus and sound the alarm to the rest of the immune system to mount a response, too. These are preferable to other types of antibodies which don't entirely block the virus's effects, and could accidentally make it easier for it to enter human cells.

Dr Lowe notes that neutralizing antibodies, in general, also have the potential to act like 'temporary vaccines,' preventing coronavirus infection in people who haven't already contracted it... FDA plans to fast track drug for use against coronavirus. Trials have already begun using blood plasma from recovered patients - which presumptively contains antibodies - to treat people still suffering the infection...


...There is no proven cure for coronavirus. Earlier this month, Gilead's antiviral, remdesivir, was given emergency FDA approval after it showed slim but promising benefits for survival and recovery times in a National Institutes of Health (NIH) study. The FDA has not yet approved the use of antibody-rich plasma for treating coronavirus, but is currently invest
 
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It looks like Mr. Trump has done a total about-face regarding his pledge to uphold the Constitution. But here is something that has just been published in the UK Daily Mail, which should really stop Trump in his tracks, and cause him to reject any idea of forced vaccinations.

'There is a cure': California biotech company claims it has discovered an antibody that can block '100%' of coronavirus infections

Sorrento Therapeutics of California is set to announce that it has discovered an antibody that can completely block coronavirus. Scientists with the company are calling it a 'cure' and say the antibody could be used to make a treatment months before a vaccine is available. Up to 200,000 doses could be made a month while Sorrento awaits FDA approval for the drug

Scientists at a California biotech company have found an antibody that completely blocks coronavirus in a discovery they called a 'cure,' Fox News reported. Sorrento Therapeutics, based in San Diego, claims its STI-1499 antibody stopped coronavirus from entering 100 percent of healthy human cells in petri dish experiments. It's one of several antibodies planned to be combined for a drug 'cocktail' Sorrento is developing in collaboration with Mt Sinai School of Medicine in New York.

In a press release, Sorrento said it could produce up to 200,000 doses of the antibody a month - a production timeline that would likely make the drug available months sooner than a COVID-19 vaccine is expected. The company has filed for emergency approval from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA), but has not yet received the green light. Stocks for Sorrento soared by nearly 220 percent on the heels of the announcement...

Scientists at a California biotech company say they've discovered an antibody that can '100%' block the coronavirus from entering human cells - and they're claiming it's a 'cure'. Amid the pandemic, scientists at Sorrento began testing its library of billions of antibodies for potential to protect against coronavirus. Stocks for Sorrento surged nearly 220% on the heels of its announcement 'We want to emphasize there is a cure,' Sorrento's CEO, Dr Henry Ji, told Fox. 'There is a solution that works 100 percent. 'If we have the neutralizing antibody in your body, you don't need the social distancing. You can open up a society without fear.'

However, this is a significant 'if.' Promising though its effects on the virus were in lab tests on human cells, the company can't rightfully say that it has blocked the infection in the human body. The antibody has not yet been tested in people, so how it might behave inside the body and its potential side effects are totally unknown.

It comes the same day that the Trump administration's social distancing guidelines to slow the spread are expiring, and as many states begin to reopen despite expert warnings that relaxing restrictions may trigger a devastating second wave of infections.

Sorrento's drug, dubbed STI-1499 is one of about a dozen antibodies - immune cells that neutralize pathogens like coronavirus - that the company discovered had some effect on coronavirus. A cocktail of antibodies could act like a 'protective shield' for human cells, preventing the virus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2 - from entering them. It blocks the virus from its primary doorway, a receptor on the surface of human cells, the ACE2 receptor.

'This puts its arms around the virus. It wraps around the virus and moves them out of the body,' Dr Ji told Fox of what his company has seen in lab experiments. 'When the antibody prevents a virus from entering a human cell, the virus cannot survive. 'If they cannot get into the cell, they cannot replicate. So it means that if we prevent the virus from getting the cell, the virus eventually dies out. The body clears out that virus.'

Multiple companies and universities around the world have been exploring the use of antibodies to treat coronavirus. Encouragingly, the antibody discovered by Sorrento belongs to a class called 'neutralizing,' or binding antibodies. They fully and specifically bind to the part of the virus that fits like a lock in a key with parts of human cells.

According to Dr Derek Lowe, an organic chemist who writes for Science Translational Medicine, these both block the virus and sound the alarm to the rest of the immune system to mount a response, too. These are preferable to other types of antibodies which don't entirely block the virus's effects, and could accidentally make it easier for it to enter human cells.

Dr Lowe notes that neutralizing antibodies, in general, also have the potential to act like 'temporary vaccines,' preventing coronavirus infection in people who haven't already contracted it... FDA plans to fast track drug for use against coronavirus. Trials have already begun using blood plasma from recovered patients - which presumptively contains antibodies - to treat people still suffering the infection...


...There is no proven cure for coronavirus. Earlier this month, Gilead's antiviral, remdesivir, was given emergency FDA approval after it showed slim but promising benefits for survival and recovery times in a National Institutes of Health (NIH) study. The FDA has not yet approved the use of antibody-rich plasma for treating coronavirus, but is currently invest

So that isn't a vaxine... It's cure that is administered to the sick instead of administering vaxines to the healthy
Thats no good for big pharma, they don't want that so they'll block it

Ive said b4 that if they were genuine they would be looking for a cure instead of a vaxine
 
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@Enoch111 , @Cristo Rei ....latest video clip on the apparent apathy of Trump...good read

Emergency Message To The President On Forced Vaccinations

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Wow i don't know who that was but it was a powerful appeal. He is 100% right.
Im on the other side of the globe but I always believed he was going to improve the USA and the west, make America great again, drain the swamp...
I thought he was gathering intel, evidence, building his case

But as the guy said he has started to cross the river and needs to turn around now
 

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Wow i don't know who that was but it was a powerful appeal. He is 100% right.
Im on the other side of the globe but I always believed he was going to improve the USA and the west, make America great again, drain the swamp...
I thought he was gathering intel, evidence, building his case

But as the guy said he has started to cross the river and needs to turn around now

And here's another clip by a Polish-German scientist that was slandered by Youtube for telling the truth on this virus


Happy reading,

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@Enoch111 @Cristo Rei @Heart2Soul ...A must read....my hat goes off to this brave woman who tells the truth...

You have to watch this one ….this Italian woman and politician in the chambers of her government cries her heart out…it is one of a kind thus far…she does not sugar coat it at all….



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You have to watch this one ….this Italian woman and politician in the chambers of her government cries her heart out…it is one of a kind thus far…she does not sugar coat it at all….
Isn't it something that an Italian woman speaks out against Bill Gates but Donald Trump fails to do so? It looks like he has surrendered to Gates and all his co-conspirators. He is even restoring the funding to WHO after making a huge issue of the WHO's involvement in this conspiracy, and how they should be held accountable, and their funding should be cut off. All of this coupled with the threat of forcible vaccinations in the USA is simply shocking.

When Trump failed to fire Fauci in mid-April, and kept Fauci and Birx in the limelight with daily Task Force briefings (even though their bogus predictions were exposed in many media), it became clear that he had surrendered to their agenda. This is going to be extremely bad for America and the free world.
 

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Isn't it something that an Italian woman speaks out against Bill Gates but Donald Trump fails to do so? It looks like he has surrendered to Gates and all his co-conspirators. He is even restoring the funding to WHO after making a huge issue of the WHO's involvement in this conspiracy, and how they should be held accountable, and their funding should be cut off. All of this coupled with the threat of forcible vaccinations in the USA is simply shocking.

When Trump failed to fire Fauci in mid-April, and kept Fauci and Birx in the limelight with daily Task Force briefings (even though their bogus predictions were exposed in many media), it became clear that he had surrendered to their agenda. This is going to be extremely bad for America and the free world.
I was just thinking the same thing as I walked back to my computer...wow what are the odds of being of the same mind here......these folks in Italy are awake....good on em....we need to get Trump to wake up as if he has been recently drugged with globalist serum...que sera sera....it will come out in the wash pretty soon...and it will be bad for the people as you say
 
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And here's another clip by a Polish-German scientist that was slandered by Youtube for telling the truth on this virus


Happy reading,

APAK

Ye iv watched that. There is a terrific interview with him and one of those LA county doctors too
He calls it the flu, nothing more than a seasonal flu...
 

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@Enoch111 @Cristo Rei @Heart2Soul ...A must read....my hat goes off to this brave woman who tells the truth...

You have to watch this one ….this Italian woman and politician in the chambers of her government cries her heart out…it is one of a kind thus far…she does not sugar coat it at all….



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WoW, what a warrior viva Italia, that was just beautiful. She made such a powerful appeal, look at what happens towards the end. God bless this courageous soul for speaking up with such blunt and factual accusations
 
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It's so frustrating to see the public walking like zombies towards this cocktail of poisonous needles, our own loved one.
No matter how we appeal they just keep walking blindly towards disaster...

Its gonna be every man for himself unfortunately. I have a plan and i seriously have to start to look at getting it prepared now
 

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WoW, what a warrior viva Italia, that was just beautiful. She made such a powerful appeal, look at what happens towards the end. God bless this courageous soul for speaking up with such blunt and factual accusations
I like you saying at the end of your responses....about folks would are lead astray from the truth and then hate those who still speak it....I can see this on a t-shirt or as a great slogan in a protest....
 
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It's so frustrating to see the public walking like zombies towards this cocktail of poisonous needles, our own loved one.
No matter how we appeal they just keep walking blindly towards disaster...

Its gonna be every man for himself unfortunately. I have a plan and i seriously have to start to look at getting it prepared now
stay clear of urban areas/cities as #1....talk about chaos....knowing folks with a setup in the outback would be great I guess...
 
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