OFFENSIVE CHRISTMAS FARE EXPLODES

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Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the rash of offensive Christmas fare:

It’s not even December, and the Christmas haters are already out in force.

In addition to those who want to censor Christmas, such as the D.C. Metro Area Transit Agency, there are those who prefer to trash the Christian holiday by using obscene sex-themed depictions.

There is a homosexual nativity scene in Los Angeles, courtesy of comedian Cameron Esposito, that has caught the eye of many; it features two Josephs. We looked to find a homosexual depiction of the birth of Muhammad, but we came up empty.

There appears to be an explosion of homosexual Christmas fare this season. There are homosexual T-shirts, Christmas trees, ornaments, wreaths, and cards. Also available online are “Sick and Twisted Christmas Cards” and “Perverted Christmas Cards.” There is a card that features a reindeer with blue xxxxxxxxx and one that depicts Santa performing xxxx xxx on a bear.

The Christmas haters are not new, are not confined to the U.S., and are not the exclusive work of atheists. Five years ago a wacko Anglican church in New Zealand featured a billboard of a homosexual baby Jesus.

One of the most offensive “holiday cards” online has nothing to do with homosexuality or obscenity. It shows a picture of Osama bin Laden with an inscription dated 12-25-01 (the first Christmas after 9/11) that says:

YOU CAN NOT STOP US
WE HAVE THIS ANTHRAX
YOU DIE NOW
ARE YOU AFRAID?
DEATH TO AMERICA
DEATH TO ISRAEL
ALLAH IS GREAT
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Most Americans, whether religious or not, are good people. They want nothing to do with these kinds of offensive attacks on the meaning of Christmas. On the other side, however, there are those—and they are not a tiny minority—who are engaged in cultural cleansing, seeking to rid our society of its Judeo-Christian heritage.
OFFENSIVE CHRISTMAS FARE EXPLODES

 

[Helen]

Wow, wow, wow...I had no idea...it makes us weep..this open attack is what I speak about when I say there is no Protestant v Catholic we have a common enemy ...the spirit of anti-Christ.

 

[FHII]

I am not one to celebrate Christmas, but this is deeper than that. I support everyone's right to celebrate Christmas, in case that needs to be said. But the purpose here was not to attack Christmas, but Christians in general.

 

[epostle1]

SAN JOSE’S CHRISTMAS TREES UNDER FIRE

Every year since the 1950s, San Jose has had a proud record of honoring Christmas with a grand display of Christmas trees. This year, however, a controversy has arisen over some trees.

San Jose’s Plaza de Cesar Chavez is the site of approximately 500 Christmas trees, an event organized by a non-profit organization, Christmas in the Park. Last year, it drew over 650,000 visitors. In addition to the display of Christmas trees, there are many Christmas-themed events for families. Unfortunately, some have politicized the annual celebration

This year there is a tree erected by the Satanic Temple, and one that celebrates Colin Kaepernick kneeling on the field. There is also a section of the park set aside for LGBT activists: they placed a Barbie doll alongside an image of Bruce Jenner from the Olympics.

Offensive as these displays are, the origin of the problem can be traced to the event’s organizers. According to the ABC affiliate, KGO, they invited schools, businesses and non-profit organizations to “bring awareness to issues or causes they care about.”

While the motives may be noble, invitations to promote issues and causes that people care about ineluctably dilute the meaning of Christmas.

Would the organizers honor Black History Month by asking the public to participate in celebratory events that “bring awareness to issues or causes they care about”? Would this not ensure an attenuation of the respect due African-American achievements? Worse, it may even beckon white supremacists to promote their agenda.

There are those who, unlike the well-meaning people of San Jose, intentionally create faux competition with Christmas so as to neuter its essence.

For example, Freedom From Religion Foundation, a militant atheist anti-Christian group from Madison, Wisconsin, released a statement saying it would provide “free secular displays to erect in public forums.”

Why? “One reason to counter religious displays on public property is to ensure your point is represented at this time of the year.” In other words, the purpose is to “counter” Christmas displays. It is not an oversight that the atheists could care less about countering Hanukkah—it’s Christians they really hate.

City in the Park organizers need to get back to their roots, lest their goodwill be exploited by those with their own agenda. This event started in the 1950s with a nativity scene built by Don Lima in front of his family mortuary—it did not start with an invitation to promote any issue or cause that the public fancied.

There are plenty of opportunities to advance all sorts of political, economic, social, and cultural causes. They should not be held coterminously with Christmas celebrations.

SAN JOSE'S CHRISTMAS TREES UNDER FIRE

 

[Job]

The devil does this because he knows it will give believers cause to stumble. He also knows that some of those who fall will never get back up again because of their inability to forgive those who ruined their Christmas activities. Once this happens, the list of the condemned gets longer and the devil wins.

 

[Dcopymope]

The devil does this because he knows it will give believers cause to stumble. He also knows that some of those who fall will never get back up again because of their inability to forgive those who ruined their Christmas activities. Once this happens, the list of the condemned gets longer and the devil wins.

I say, if the strength of their faith rests in a yearly tradition that really has nothing to do with Christianity to begin with, and something that offends them regarding that tradition causes them to stumble, then I have no choice but to conclude that they are wimps. If they are such snow flakes that someone having their own version of Christmas causes them to fall, then God forbid if they are still alive during the Great Tribulation because I don't see them lasting long at all. The Great Tribulation will NOT be a time for wimps such as those you describe. They need to get their priorities straight and realize that Christmas is not important.

 

[epostle1]

DC METRO TRANSIT CENSORS CHRISTMAS AD
Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the censoring of a Christmas ad in the District of Columbia:

To celebrate Christmas without celebrating Christ makes as much sense as celebrating Veterans Day without celebrating veterans. But don’t tell that to the secular sages at the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority (WMATA).

WMATA has banned a Christmas ad sponsored by the Archdiocese of Washington because it “depicts a religious scene and thus seeks to promote religion.” The scene was mounted on a poster to be placed on the outside of metro buses. Its purpose is stated in its message: “Find the Perfect Gift.” The scene neither mentions nor depicts Christ.

The archdiocese, represented by the distinguished law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, has sued WMATA on First Amendment grounds: freedom of speech and the free exercise of religion have both been violated.

Would WMATA allow a bus ad of Rev. Martin Luther King, in clergy garb, speaking from a pulpit before a congregation? Would it reject the ad on the grounds that it is a religious scene and is thus promoting religion?

Would WMATA reject a vile anti-religious ad? Or would it conclude that such a poster is merely an expression of free speech?

Religious speech does not automatically lose its constitutional protections because it is voiced on public property. This is a clear case of viewpoint discrimination, something which the courts have repeatedly struck down as unconstitutional. It is also an example of militant secularism and anti-Christian bigotry.

To show how utterly ignorant the officials at WMATA are, consider that the City of New York recently approved the granting of a permit to the Catholic League to erect a life-size nativity scene in Central Park, on public property. If anything, our crèche is much more of a “religious scene” than the one sponsored by the Archdiocese of Washington, yet it has never been challenged as unconstitutional, not even by the ACLU.

Kudos to Cardinal Donald Wuerl, archbishop of the archdiocese, for standing up to the bullies at WMATA.

Contact Paul J. Wiedefeld, WMATA CEO: [email protected]

 

[Helen]

@kepha31 your post are informative.....all this is news to me...and not good news.
I agree ...this has nothing to do with Christmas....but everything to do with anti-Christian and the hate for us and our Lord.

 

[epostle1]

@kepha31 your post are informative.....all this is news to me...and not good news.
I agree ...this has nothing to do with Christmas....but everything to do with anti-Christian and the hate for us and our Lord.

Amen, ByGrace. This link is a year old, and not related to media per se. Yet still horrifying.
HORROR=> Satanists Desecrate Mary Statue at Catholic Cathedral on CHRISTMAS EVE (Video)

 

[bbyrd009]

Offensive as these displays are, the origin of the problem can be traced to the event’s organizers.

i lay them at the door of the churches, myself, and while it is tempting to join you in the "oh, woe is me" crap, i gotta say that all this is is chickens coming home to roost for hypocrites who run our churches, and the hypocrites who follow them. Surely this post will make me popular, lol.

To celebrate Christmas without celebrating Christ makes as much sense as celebrating Veterans Day without celebrating veterans.

leave it to you to conflate God and Molech, i guess

Every year since the 1950s, San Jose has had a proud record of honoring Christmas with a grand display of Christmas trees.

ya, nevermind what Scripture plainly teaches about tree decorators, right

Yet still horrifying.

at least you are good for jokes lol. You wouldn't even look at the stuff that is really horrifying, that you condone every day though, would you. You will be forgiven your ignorance, but when does it become denial? If you enjoy peering in so much, why not just post some porn?

Wanna see the results of your guarding all that Afghan poppy for the Sacklers? The OxyContin Clan: The $14 Billion Newcomer to Forbes 2015 List of Richest U.S. Families
How bout destroying Qaddafi's River in the Desert, wanna see how destroying their water infrastructure (first thing, of course, literally as you were confiscating the Gold Dinars that would have freed us) has helped to Forward Democracy?
Prolly not, huh

Has your conscience been so completely seared, that you imagine this self-righteous load of crap is Christian, somehow? You only get what you give away, and these manifestations are exactly that, and that is all that they are, as "and My people who are called by My name humble themselves, pray and seek My face, and turn from their evil ways, then I will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land" makes plain, while you seek to obscure.

i mean no offense here, i'm sure the right person could say this better or more forgivingly or whatever, but then i don't see them around, so wth i'm already the Bad Guy anyway right. If you aren't offended at what Xmas has become, long time ago, then you are dead anyway imo. Thank you, God, that trashing this Buy-fest Holly-day is finally gaining some traction.

 

[Dcopymope]

ya, nevermind what Scripture plainly teaches about tree decorators, right

You reminded me

(Jeremiah 10:1-5) "Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: {2} Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. {3} For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. {4} They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. {5} They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."

Wanna see the results of your guarding all that Afghan poppy for the Sacklers? The OxyContin Clan: The $14 Billion Newcomer to Forbes 2015 List of Richest U.S. Families
How bout destroying Qaddafi's River in the Desert, wanna see how destroying their water infrastructure (first thing, of course, literally as you were confiscating the Gold Dinars that would have freed us) has helped to Forward Democracy?
Prolly not, huh

Oh but wait, doesn't scripture state that the governments responsible for this are ordained by God to be his ministers? Or is that a joke?

i mean no offense here, i'm sure the right person could say this better or more forgivingly or whatever, but then i don't see them around, so wth i'm already the Bad Guy anyway right. If you aren't offended at what Xmas has become, long time ago, then you are dead anyway imo. Thank you, God, that trashing this Buy-fest Holly-day is finally gaining some traction.

I don't think that even I could have said it better myself.

 

[liafailrock]

I think you have two types of Christmas haters:

1) Anti-Christians who THINK Christmas is biblical, and thus want to attack it because they hate Christians.

2) People like me who attack it because I know that the origins are pagan. The attack reasons are nowhere near #1 who just want to bash Christians. Rather, it's because we want to worship God in Spirit and in Truth, and not a Christianize pagan holiday. But the #1's and mainline Christianity are equally ignorant in our opinion.

Just some facts for everyone's Info

 

[Dcopymope]

I think you have two types of Christmas haters:

1) Anti-Christians who THINK Christmas is biblical, and thus want to attack it because they hate Christians.

2) People like me who attack it because I know that the origins are pagan. The attack reasons are nowhere near #1 who just want to bash Christians. Rather, it's because we want to worship God in Spirit and in Truth, and not a Christianize pagan holiday. But the #1's and mainline Christianity are equally ignorant in our opinion.

Just some facts for everyone's Info

I don't understand why Christians pretend like it has anything at all to do with the Bible. What in the blue hell does Christmas have to do with Jesus Christ? What did Jesus Christ do on December 25th that gives the date any relevance at all?

 

[Helen]

I think you have two types of Christmas haters:

1) Anti-Christians who THINK Christmas is biblical, and thus want to attack it because they hate Christians.

2) People like me who attack it because I know that the origins are pagan. The attack reasons are nowhere near #1 who just want to bash Christians. Rather, it's because we want to worship God in Spirit and in Truth, and not a Christianize pagan holiday. But the #1's and mainline Christianity are equally ignorant in our opinion.

Just some facts for everyone's Info

I totally agree with you. We by study..found out 40 yrs ago the roots of "christmas" being pagan.

But do you not feel to support it at all now that "any thing Christian" is under attack. We are not fooled in believing it a "Christian" celebration ..yet many unread church leaders, do try to win people to Christ etc
I am so mixed on this...because they are eating away at anything that the unread Christians hold as a precious time of year. For that reason I am much more for it than against it!
What are your thought?

 

[epostle1]

I think you have two types of Christmas haters:

1) Anti-Christians who THINK Christmas is biblical, and thus want to attack it because they hate Christians.

2) People like me who attack it because I know that the origins are pagan. The attack reasons are nowhere near #1 who just want to bash Christians. Rather, it's because we want to worship God in Spirit and in Truth, and not a Christianize pagan holiday. But the #1's and mainline Christianity are equally ignorant in our opinion.
Just some facts for everyone's Info

Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ, and has been since the 2nd century. It is also a secular holiday and that does not mean it is pagan. The exact day of Christ's birth is unknown thus irrelevant to the day chosen. The only "facts" you have are 18th century inventions. You offer no evidence of a Christianized pagan holiday.

Zechariah was acting as high priest when the birth of St. John the baptizer was announced to him in the Holy of Holies in the Temple. That would have been on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement which falls in late September. St. John was conceived shortly thereafter during Sukkot, the Festival of Booths.

At the Annunciation, the BVM was told that Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant. That would have been in late March. (BTW the feast of the Annunciation is celebrated on March 25th in the Roman Calendar. Oh, those rascally Catlicks!)

Nine months later Jesus was born sometime in late December.

Now there is an interesting coincidence with all this. St. John would have been born near the Summer Solstice (the longest day of the year) everyday after that would get shorter until the Winter Solstice six months later, which is the shortest day of the year. Every day after that would get longer. In the First Century the Winter Solstice fell on December 25th.

It would be fitting that Jesus would have been born on the shortest day of the year because he is the "Light of the World":

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12)

Everyday after his birth there was more light.

Also St. John the Baptizer said of himself:

He must increase, but I must decrease.” (John 3:30)

Which is exactly what happened to the daylight after their respective births. (This was the point St. Augustine made in his championing the celebration of Jesus' birth on the Winter Solstice).

So despite the objections of some pundits, December 25th is a very reasonable date to celebrate Jesus' birth and not a concession to paganism.

The Winter Solstice was NOT a Roman Civil holiday until 273 AD. The Emperor Aurelian made December 25th a civil holiday because the Christians were already using it to celebrate the Birth of Jesus and he was trying to detract from the Christian celebration!

None of the Sun Cults used December 25th before then. The Winter Solstice was originally a CHRISTIAN feast that the pagans tried to paganize, not the other way around.

 

[Helen]

I believe He was born in September. On the feast of Tabernacles.

I used to care...now I don't. ANYTIME Christ is worshipped it is a WIN against the anti-christ.

 

[mjrhealth]

What are your thought?

Me I a ma bit like you, have no regard for christmas, is of this world, nothing to do with Jesus, just like easter and all mens religious festivals. But as you said, If it is a time when men think of Jesus, even if for but a moment what does it matter.

Mar 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

 

[Dcopymope]

Me I a ma bit like you, have no regard for christmas, is of this world, nothing to do with Jesus, just like easter and all mens religious festivals. But as you said, If it is a time when men think of Jesus, even if for but a moment what does it matter.

Mar 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

The way I see it, if they want to relegate the importance of Jesus Christ to a day, then I can't on good conscience call them real Christians. These are the kinds of Christians one would describe as 'straddling the fence', or someone with one foot in the church and other in the world. These are the kind of people who will pretend to be holy and of God while in the church, but when they set foot outside of it, the mask comes off revealing who they really are. This is why I have no respect for Christmas even if its being used as a day of worship. To associate God in any way with Christmas of all things makes a joke out of the faith of the world. Its one of many reasons why they don't take Christianity seriously.

 

[mjrhealth]

The way I see it, if they want to relegate the importance of Jesus Christ to a day, then I can't on good conscience call them real Christians.

Yes well Jesus knew it would be like this, which is why I like you give everyday to Him, any day with Him is a good one, why give any, one day, when He should have them all.

 

[Dcopymope]

Yes well Jesus knew it would be like this, which is why I like you give everyday to Him, any day with Him is a good one, why give any, one day, when He should have them all.

Exactly, the legalist's on here would tell you otherwise. They would rather tie the rope of the old mosaic law observances around our necks and claim that we are not to worship on Sunday for instance. I would truly like to see how they view Christmas, just to see how double minded they really are. I'm sure many of these hypocrites the world over are perfectly fine with Christmas.