One Fold.....One Shepherd ?

[twinc]

who, where, how, why - who are the other sheep etc = God created all humankind as His sheep to hear and respond to His voice but something went terribly wrong so Jesus came to bring them together again - how He will do this is not fully understood or realised - so guess how ? they will hear again, recognise and respond to the Shepherd's voice and return to the fold - imho - twinc

 

[amadeus]

Try the following twinc:

ttps://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-other-sheep.24352/

 

[twinc]

Try the following twinc:

ttps://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-other-sheep.24352/

tried it - no answers just questions ? - twinc

 

[GodsGrace]

Start with who the original sheep are.
Who do you think they are?
Everything you posted in your OP is correct.
Where's the problem??

 

[bbyrd009]

Where's the problem?

we seek answers, but we only get more questions

 

[GodsGrace]

we seek answers, but we only get more questions

Except for one question, Christianity has answered all my questions.
As for the other sheep, anyone who studies the covenants, and I use the word STUDY lightly because there are books and books written on them, it is obvious and not to be debated who the other sheep are.
I don't really have questions anymore...
(not because I'm sooooo intelligent, but because I'm satisfied being friendly with Jesus)

 

[twinc]

we seek answers, but we only get more questions

because you are probably seeking in the wrong place - a bit like the man in the dark on his hands and knees under a street lamp looking for something he lost in the dark looking for it where there was light - twinc

Except for one question, Christianity has answered all my questions.
As for the other sheep, anyone who studies the covenants, and I use the word STUDY lightly because there are books and books written on them, it is obvious and not to be debated who the other sheep are.
I don't really have questions anymore...
(not because I'm sooooo intelligent, but because I'm satisfied being friendly with Jesus)

Except for one question, Christianity has answered all my questions.
As for the other sheep, anyone who studies the covenants, and I use the word STUDY lightly because there are books and books written on them, it is obvious and not to be debated who the other sheep are.
I don't really have questions anymore...
(not because I'm sooooo intelligent, but because I'm satisfied being friendly with Jesus)

I am envious - how wonderful for you - for the bible clearly tells us about books sand books and intelligence and learning etc - all books written so that we may simply believe[Jn 20:31]- Intelligence = Rmns 1:22 -learning = 2Timothy3:7 - Acts 26:24 - twinc

 

[Richard_oti]

because you are probably seeking in the wrong place - a bit like the man in the dark on his hands and knees under a street lamp looking for something he lost in the dark looking for it where there was light - twinc

Sometimes, to find an "answer", is simply to accept a thing according to our own understanding which may or may not be correct. Sometimes, when we think we have it all figured out, that we have the answer... We may later find out that we did not in fact have the correct answer, because we either missed something or stopped short. Along with other possible reasons which I won't go into here.

That does not negate that some find answers. Some questions are easier than others. However, some questions, only generate more questions as @bbyrd009 stated.

Here's a question: What is the "light" that was spoken into being in Genesis 1:3?

 

[GodsGrace]

because you are probably seeking in the wrong place - a bit like the man in the dark on his hands and knees under a street lamp looking for something he lost in the dark looking for it where there was light - twinc




I am envious - how wonderful for you - for the bible clearly tells us about books sand books and intelligence and learning etc - all books written so that we may simply believe[Jn 20:31]- Intelligence = Rmns 1:22 -learning = 2Timothy3:7 - Acts 26:24 - twinc

What does intelligence have to do with what I've said?

What questions has God not answered for you?
All the answers are in the bible.
Except one.

 

[GodsGrace]

Sometimes, to find an "answer", is simply to accept a thing according to our own understanding which may or may not be correct. Sometimes, when we think we have it all figured out, that we have the answer... We may later find out that we did not in fact have the correct answer, because we either missed something or stopped short. Along with other possible reasons which I won't go into here.

That does not negate that some find answers. Some questions are easier than others. However, some questions, only generate more questions as @bbyrd009 stated.

Here's a question: What is the "light" that was spoken into being in Genesis 1:3?

The above happened to me regarding my one unanswered question.
When I became Christian many years ago, I thought I had figured out the problem of evil. I was so content! Everything fit into place.
About 10 years later, I realized a mistake I was making and thus, I really did NOT understand it.

Here we are, many many years later and I've discovered that there is no answer. So we do what you said, just accept and be happy to know the Light of the World.

 

[bbyrd009]

it is obvious and not to be debated who the other sheep are.

so you say--who might those be then?

 

[bbyrd009]

because you are probably seeking in the wrong place

ah, i was being generous there, i don't seek answers anymore in that nature, to manifest a pointless belief about what happened in the past, or will happen in the future, so that i might divide myself into the right "club." Although i completely understand the practice, don't get me wrong

 

[bbyrd009]

Sometimes, to find an "answer", is simply to accept a thing according to our own understanding which may or may not be correct. Sometimes, when we think we have it all figured out, that we have the answer... We may later find out that we did not in fact have the correct answer, because we either missed something or stopped short. Along with other possible reasons which I won't go into here.

That does not negate that some find answers.

ezackly, ya. I realized that my "answers" were preventing me from learning better truths on those matters, and that i was hanging on to "answers" meant to serve my perspective at the time, like we do for little kids

 

[bbyrd009]

The above happened to me regarding my one unanswered question.

have you already stated this somewhere and i missed it?

 

[GodsGrace]

so you say--who might those be then?

Some things we can debate, and some we can't because the answer is sure.
The gentiles were the other sheep.

 

[GodsGrace]

have you already stated this somewhere and i missed it?

I doubt it.

 

[bbyrd009]

Some things we can debate, and some we can't because the answer is sure.
The gentiles were the other sheep.

ah, maybe it is in defining "gentiles" that we run into issues, then

 

[bbyrd009]

I doubt it.

so, just being coy there, or what?

 

[GodsGrace]

ah, maybe it is in defining "gentiles" that we run into issues, then

Jesus came for the whole world.
God would want that all be saved.
You know the verses.
Everyone is a gentile except for the Jews.

 

[GodsGrace]

so, just being coy there, or what?

No. Not being coy.
I don't think I ever posted before about how I thought I had conquered the question of evil ---
I was confirming that we learn new things all the time.
But, hopefully, when we learn it, it will be the correct teaching.