Paul's wisdom

[soul man]

There is a wisdom to Paul's determination "to know nothing, but Christ crucified."

 

[farouk]

There is a wisdom to Paul's determination "to know nothing, but Christ crucified."

Philippians 2: He was 'obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him...'

 

[Pearl]

There is a wisdom to Paul's determination "to know nothing, but Christ crucified."

Do you think we often make the whole thing too complicated?

 

[farouk]

Do you think we often make the whole thing too complicated?

@Pearl I'm sure this is true.

 

[soul man]

Do you think we often make the whole thing too complicated?

I'm sure we probably do but it's fun to debate and have conversation in here

 

[farouk]

I'm sure we probably do but it's fun to debate and have conversation in here

@soul man Good to be able to encourage one another.

 

[farouk]

@soul man Re. the ref. to 'wisdom' in the OP, I am reminded of wisdom personified in Proverbs 8, and then of Paul in 1 Corinthians 1.30-31:

"But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."

 

[Enoch111]

There is a wisdom to Paul's determination "to know nothing, but Christ crucified."

In this context it is sad to see that the full meaning of the finished work of Christ ("Christ crucified") is not really understood by many Christians, neither is it preached and taught by many pastors, evangelists, and teachers today.

"Christ crucified" has tremendous depths, and impacts on everything pertaining to all of salvation. Yet we have had naysayers on this forum (and others) flatly denying that the Father literally forsook the Son while He hung on that cross for three dark hours.

 

[soul man]

@soul man Re. the ref. to 'wisdom' in the OP, I am reminded of wisdom personified in Proverbs 8, and then of Paul in 1 Corinthians 1.30-31:

"But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."

You have a way of finding good scriptures

 

[soul man]

In this context it is sad to see that the full meaning of the finished work of Christ ("Christ crucified") is not really understood by many Christians, neither is it preached and taught by many pastors, evangelists, and teachers today.

"Christ crucified" has tremendous depths, and impacts on everything pertaining to all of salvation. Yet we have had naysayers on this forum (and others) flatly denying that the Father literally forsook the Son while He hung on that cross for three dark hours.

I have heard some of the deepest teaching on the cross, most of those teachers agree it is a subject that will not completely understood to exactly what happened there. I may write some here and there but if you said what they were saying it just wouldn't work in here. It was a private seminar with most very hungry to hear what was being said. Very out of the box, which most in attendance were already, and led by seasoned scholars and theologians. Basically school boys that were seeing great things in the word of God.

 

[farouk]

I have heard some of the deepest teaching on the cross, most of those teachers agree it is a subject that will not completely understood to exactly what happened there. I may write some here and there but if you said what they were saying it just wouldn't work in here. It was a private seminar with most very hungry to hear what was being said. Very out of the box, which most in attendance were already, and led by seasoned scholars and theologians. Basically school boys that were seeing great things in the word of God.

@soul man Some of the depths of the cross are so solemnly amazing that the human mind cannot take it in properly; it in any case takes a work of the Holy Spirit to grasp the meaning of the cross. Someone wrote:

"None of the ransomed ever knew
How deep were the waters crossed,
Nor how dark was the night that the Lord passed through
E'er He found his sheep that were lost."

 

[soul man]

@soul man Some of the depths of the cross are so solemnly amazing that the human mind cannot take it in properly; it in any case takes a work of the Holy Spirit to grasp the meaning of the cross. Someone wrote:

"None of the ransomed ever knew
How deep were the waters crossed,
Nor how dark was the night that the Lord passed through
E'er He found his sheep that were lost."

I believe it is, I particularly like the guy who traced the cross to "all in Adam are dead in Christ" as well, there just is no spiritual life as yet for the unregenerate. Just an example of what was said, lots of good points and the depth was there

 

[farouk]

I believe it is, I particularly like the guy who traced the cross to "all in Adam are dead in Christ" as well, there just is no spiritual life as yet for the unregenerate. Just an example of what was said, lots of good points and the depth was there

@soul man "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." (1 Corinthians 15.22)

 

[soul man]

@soul man "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." (1 Corinthians 15.22)

Yes exact scripture that is used for that understanding

 

[farouk]

Yes exact scripture that is used for that understanding

@soul man It's from a glorious passage that you often hear at Christian funerals.

 

[farouk]

there just is no spiritual life as yet for the unregenerate.

Ephesians 2 comes to mind: "...You hath He quickened, which were dead...."

 

[mjrhealth]

Do you think we often make the whole thing too complicated?

We certainly do.