Prosperity

[Randy Kluth]

A critique of Osteen's Prosperity Gospel:

I submitted my own response as follows:
Simple answer has taken me years to learn: Jesus in his earthly ministry preached the Law, which required all 316 or so requirements and included, in Deuteronomy, the promise to prosper the Israeli nation. This promise of prosperity, however, required obedience to the Law of Moses, and was a general promise of prosperity for the *nation* and not for *individuals.*

God gifts individuals and calls them individually. Some He will prosper materially, and some He will not. We all have to submit to God's will. But we all have to obey in order to enjoy God's favor with respect to our eternal inheritance.

This is true for nations today in the New Testament era. Our nation will be blessed if we obey, as a people, the Gospel of Christ. Some individuals will be wonderfully prospered. Others will be called to less "material" prosperity, but will prosper in other ways.

But we must all submit to the Cross. And we saw how a nation will end up when a nation is in spiritual decline and disobeys God.

 

[Nancy]

A critique of Osteen's Prosperity Gospel:

I submitted my own response as follows:
Simple answer has taken me years to learn: Jesus in his earthly ministry preached the Law, which required all 316 or so requirements and included, in Deuteronomy, the promise to prosper the Israeli nation. This promise of prosperity, however, required obedience to the Law of Moses, and was a general promise of prosperity for the *nation* and not for *individuals.*

God gifts individuals and calls them individually. Some He will prosper materially, and some He will not. We all have to submit to God's will. But we all have to obey in order to enjoy God's favor with respect to our eternal inheritance.

This is true for nations today in the New Testament era. Our nation will be blessed if we obey, as a people, the Gospel of Christ. Some individuals will be wonderfully prospered. Others will be called to less "material" prosperity, but will prosper in other ways.

But we must all submit to the Cross. And we saw how a nation will end up when a nation is in spiritual decline and disobeys God.

 

[PS95]

A critique of Osteen's Prosperity Gospel:

I submitted my own response as follows:
Simple answer has taken me years to learn: Jesus in his earthly ministry preached the Law, which required all 316 or so requirements and included, in Deuteronomy, the promise to prosper the Israeli nation. This promise of prosperity, however, required obedience to the Law of Moses, and was a general promise of prosperity for the *nation* and not for *individuals.*

God gifts individuals and calls them individually. Some He will prosper materially, and some He will not. We all have to submit to God's will. But we all have to obey in order to enjoy God's favor with respect to our eternal inheritance.

This is true for nations today in the New Testament era. Our nation will be blessed if we obey, as a people, the Gospel of Christ. Some individuals will be wonderfully prospered. Others will be called to less "material" prosperity, but will prosper in other ways.

But we must all submit to the Cross. And we saw how a nation will end up when a nation is in spiritual decline and disobeys God.

Beware of these videos- that one is AI generated. I didn't watch it.
Sound (words?) or visuals digitally generated
These are all over youtube. I've seen quite a few where the words were drastically altered.

"How this content was made
Altered or synthetic content
Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated. Learn more"

 

[Randy Kluth]

Beware of these videos- that one is AI generated. I didn't watch it.
Sound (words?) or visuals digitally generated
These are all over youtube. I've seen quite a few where the words were drastically altered.

"How this content was made
Altered or synthetic content
Sound or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated. Learn more"

Yes, but my AI search indicates the event did take place. Use of AI embellishments can serve useful purposes without sacrificing its authenticity. I doubt Osteen would want a rerun of the event on youtube or wherever he has reruns of his TV programs? If you know anything let me know? But this disclaimer is used, apparently, for any use of AI embellishment.

 

[PS95]

Yes, but my AI search indicates the event did take place. Use of AI embellishments can serve useful purposes without sacrificing its authenticity. I doubt Osteen would want a rerun of the event on youtube or wherever he has reruns of his TV programs? If you know anything let me know? But this disclaimer is used, apparently, for any use of AI embellishment.

All I know is that an event can take place- that's true- but if someone messes with the words there is no point in watching it.
Since AI never reveals what they messed with how can we know?
I have seen several where they had people saying things that were never said.- That's all I'm saying.
I'm no fan of Osteen but AI should have to ask permission before touching anything IMO. It's downright dangerous.

 

[Randy Kluth]

All I know is that an event can take place- that's true- but if someone messes with the words there is no point in watching it.
Since AI never reveals what they messed with how can we know?
I have seen several where they had people saying things that were never said.- That's all I'm saying.
I'm no fan of Osteen but AI should have to ask permission before touching anything IMO. It's downright dangerous.

Yea, I'm doing penance today for even bringing it up. ;)