Regeneration? Prevenient Grace? Simple Belief?

[skypair]

I hope everyone realizes that none of these things saves. "And if any man shall [pray], 'I have sinned and perverted that which is right and it profited me not,' [God] will keep his soul from going into the pit and his life shall see the light." (Job 33:26-27) This is what the NT calls "calling on the name of the Lord" for salvation (Ro 10:13)

It's the same OT to NT. The thing that is different is Christ was coming vs. Christ has come. It there is some reason why you don't want to pray with a broken heart and a contrite spirit .. it's your loss. "For God saves such as are of a broken heart and a contrite spirit." (Psa 34:18).

skypair

 

[DPMartin]

calling upon the name of the Lord goes clear back to:
Gen 4:26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.


and Grace that Noah found includes all his children to receive the same life he had, just as all the children of Adam and Eve receive the life they had after the tree (dust to dust ashes to ashes)

I do believe Paul mentions a school of thought as Grace on Grace.

the children of faith are the children of Abraham Isaac and Jacob.

and also note that its by Grace through faith for the gentile and by faith for the jew


Rom_3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

 

[Abiding Grace]

I hope everyone realizes that none of these things saves. "And if any man shall [pray], 'I have sinned and perverted that which is right and it profited me not,' [God] will keep his soul from going into the pit and his life shall see the light." (Job 33:26-27) This is what the NT calls "calling on the name of the Lord" for salvation (Ro 10:13)

It's the same OT to NT. The thing that is different is Christ was coming vs. Christ has come. It there is some reason why you don't want to pray with a broken heart and a contrite spirit .. it's your loss. "For God saves such as are of a broken heart and a contrite spirit." (Psa 34:18).

skypair

Why do you keep misrepresenting what the Bible says?

Paul teaches that we were chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world. We are saved by grace, through faith and repentance is a given.

 

[bbyrd009]

Well, someone is saved by grace, through faith, anyway--don't know who this "We" is. Those who were chosen, i guess, huh. I would hesitate to put myself in there, seems presumptuous to me. Hitler included himself, too. Just sayin.

Repentance is a given?

Paul teaches that we were chosen for salvation before the foundation of the world. We are saved by grace, through faith and repentance is a given.

 

[Abiding Grace]

Well, someone is saved by grace, through faith, anyway--don't know who this "We" is. Those who were chosen, i guess, huh. I would hesitate to put myself in there, seems presumptuous to me. Hitler included himself, too. Just sayin.

Repentance is a given?

Repentance is a gift.

2 Timothy 2:25Christian Standard Bible (CSB)

25 instructing his opponents with gentleness. Perhaps God will grant them repentance leading them to the knowledge of the truth.

Acts 11:18Christian Standard Bible (CSB)

18 When they heard this they became silent. And they glorified God, saying, “So then, God has given repentance resulting in life even to the Gentiles.”

Acts 5:31Christian Standard Bible (CSB)

31 God exalted this man to his right hand as ruler and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.

 

[bbyrd009]

Perhaps God will grant them repentance

guess i misunderstood the context there