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Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Rita, Jul 1, 2020 at 2:46 AM.

  1. Rita

    Rita Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering if those in the US could give me some more info on this. On Sky news it has announced that the US ( just says American officials ) has brought 90% of this drug for July and august. This is to treat Covid. It means that we cannot get anymore of the drug until sept Oct time
    Can anyone find out ‘ who ‘ brought the drug and who made the decision to just consider the US in the equation.
    I find it strange that a country that has denied the virus, has kicked against it, now suddenly fears it and makes sure it takes as much as the treatment drug as it can.
    I would very much like to find out the story behind it all.
    Many thanks
    Rita
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    YOU CAN NOW GET A DOSE FOR USD 3,200. TOTAL SCAM.

    No wonder they have been attacking HCQ/zinc/erethromycin.
     
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    We haven't been kicking against it. We have been coming against the lies and fear that the authorities in the USA has put us through. Would you all like it if they kept lying to you all the time? First they say that you can get the virus from anything and any surface causing a shortage of disinfectant wipes and disinfectant, then they said that you can't get it from surfaces. They said you don't need a mask and it would not do any good, then they said wear a mask. Then they admitted that they were artificially adding to the death count by counting every death as COVID. When this whole thing started "the top doc" fauci said it wasn't a big deal and given the facts that the models were wildly off enough to be completely dishonest and the test negative the CDC released at first was tainted with COVID and States had to revise down their numbers because they were saying COVID when it was not just to get a paycheck. We were in fear for months because they wouldn't tell the truth and we don't believe the lies anymore, then they keep us in fear with the riots, now that the riots have calmed down here comes the virus again.

    We are not saying the virus isn't real (except a few people which I am sure every country has them types) we are saying we are sick and tried of them keeping us in fear all the time and not treating us as fellow citizens who have a right to the truth. Why are they buying meds all up? Don't know. Who's doing it? Don't know. I am sure with enough snooping I could find out though, which I will try to do
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Rita,
    You have not been paying close attention to some of us.

    1. The Wuhan virus was real, but it was simply another strain of flu. The death rate is slightly more than the death rate for the 2018 flu (which was the worst in history)

    2. However the pandemic CONSPIRACY was real and caught everyone napping, including Trump. But even after the truth was published and the dots connected, Trump did nothing.

    3. Even to this day, there is not a singe Western leader or politician who has recognized that a real conspiracy was hatched to bring down Trump, America, and eventually the Western world. It involves the Communist Chinese government, WHO, CDC, IHME, NIH, Redfield, Fauci, Birx, Gates, Soros, and who knows which others. It also involves the British Imperial College and their criminal negligence as well as cover-up.

    4. On March 23, 2020 Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko in New York state sent an open letter to Trump, his Chief of Staff, and all medical practitioners informing them that he had devised a simple, effective and cheap treatment for COVID-19. It included hydroxychloroquine (HCQ), which was a safe anti-malarial drug for ages, and manufactured in bulk in India. The key to Zelenko's treatment was to include zinc sulfate and erethromycin in a package with HCQ.

    5. Instead of firing Dr Anthony Fauci (a fraud with a conflict of interest regarding Remdesivir) and replacing him with Dr. Zelenko (or at least Dr. Ben Carson) Trump continued behaving as if this information should not go out from the White House so that all Americans could benefit.

    6. In fact he took this treatment personally (not sure if formulated exactly as shown by Zelenko) but continued to coddle and protect Fauci. This led to thousands of unnecessary deaths.

    7. The day before China announced that the Wuhan virus had been released from China, the government of China (or a surrogate) actually APPLIED FOR A US PATENT using the Remdesivir formula but changed the name to hide the identity. So this was not only fraud but a conspiracy. Not sure if they succeeded in getting that patent. China is famous for stealing Western technology.

    8. The owner of Gilead Sciences, a US bioltech company, got the patent in 2017 for Remdesivir, but the trials and tests showed that it was really quite ineffective against COVID-19. Nonetheless, because millions (or billions) of dollars were involved, they orchestrated a vicious campaign against HCQ, and got the Western media to denigrate and attack a very effective treatment. They also went after Zelenko and sicced the FBI on him while Trump stood by.

    9. However Dr Fauci and the owner of Gilead -- Daniel O'Day -- are long-term buddies and have been planning on making big bucks with Remdesivir. So now it turns out that you will pay USD 3,200 per shot
    (or the US goverment will be bilked).

    10. Dr. Fauci has a long history of shady practices, and he is the one who created the fear-mongering and panic (now called *Pandemic Porn*) to bring the US to its knees.
     
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    Thanks Enoch , I am not good remembering the names of the drugs that have been mentioned before - you have now jogged my memory. I have been listening - it’s just that my memory forgets to remind me of things !! Lol
     
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    It’s ok Enoch has reminded me of the connection with the drug that has been bought. Yes, we have had the same over here , although we have never been told the virus is not active on all surfaces- the info there has never changed.
    Rita
     
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    Bloomberg

    The European Union is in talks with Gilead Sciences Inc. about reserving a “sufficient number of doses” of remdesivir for the bloc’s member states after the U.S forged a deal to snap up almost all the drugmaker’s supplies.

    Discussions are ongoing, a European Commission spokesman told reporters Thursday. Remdesivir is one of only two medicines with a proven effect against the coronavirus, and the EU expects to clear it as a Covid-19 treatment by the end of this week.

    The U.S. agreement announced earlier this week fueled worries about countries locking up access to drugs, vaccines and other pandemic essentials to place themselves in the best possible position to fight the virus -- potentially leaving others in the lurch. . . .



    The U.S. secured “an amazing deal” for Gilead’s entire projected production of the medicine for July, as well as 90% of the output for August and September, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Monday.

    Gilead plans to charge $390 a vial, or $2,340 for a five-day regimen, for direct government purchases by the U.S. or other developed countries. A one-price model would avoid the need for negotiations that could slow down access, the company said.

    It’s still unclear how much the U.S. move will hamper other nations in their bid to gain the medicine. The Netherlands has adequate supplies of remdesivir that were donated by Gilead, according to the healthy ministry. A spokesman for Germany’s health minister told Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland that the country has adequate supplies.

    Gilead has donated its supplies through June, and said it has agreements with manufacturers of generics, which will allow access for developing nations and boost the amounts available worldwide.
     
  8. Rita

    Rita Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Giuliano
    The UK only got the drugs as part of a small trial - apparently we can get it again on compassionate grounds and as part of further trials.
    As Enoch has already shared, they can make a profit and manipulate the market. Bet their shares have sky rocketed. Still if Oxford develop a vaccine , no doubt they will do the same ! dog eat dog world !
    Rita
     
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    I think Oxford has an agreement with others cooperating internationally. So far as I know, the US declined to take part; and they invested $1.2 billions into American efforts to get the first vaccine with "Operation Warpspeed." I doubt Trump would share that with other countries. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. That could mean however that if the first vaccine gets made outside the US, Americans could get shut out.

    I wouldn't rush to buy Gilead stock. I know next to nothing about the pharmaceutical industry and consider it speculative to say the least. I did find out though that Gilead's price hit highs on April 17th and 30th. It's gone down and up, down and up since then.

    gilead stock - Google Search

    A little more research revealed that "insiders" were mostly selling their shares. Back in March some were buying, but now it seems mostly selling. That suggests to me profits might not be investors might want, and the price may go down.

    Gilead Sciences, Inc. Common Stock (GILD) Insider Activity

    Oh, I'd looked into their political contributions before. They covered their bases, contributing to both parties.

    Gilead Sciences Contributions to Federal Candidates, 2018 cycle | OpenSecrets
     
  10. Rita

    Rita Well-Known Member

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    I don’t do stocks and shares xx
     
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    If you have cash in a savings account making 0.05%, you might think about buying stocks in stable companies that pay decent dividends consistently. I have own some stock in my retirement account in a company called HIX. At today's price, it pays monthly dividends of $0.049 per share. So if you bought 100 shares, it would cost you $628 and you would receive $4.90 a month in dividends -- over 9% I think. I bought some Wells Fargo too, and it pays quarterly -- and that's over 9% too. I expect the price of that to double sooner or later, and then I'll probably sell it. If it doesn't go up that high, I can sit and collect the dividends. (Right now, it's down a little, but I did get one dividend so far.)

    But I avoid the pharmaceutical companies. I don't understand their business.
     
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    Here’s what I’ve been doing for years to combat viral flu and cold infections. I use a product called TheraZinc. Amazon carries it.

    Zinc has been proven to keep the cold virus from replicating. (I hope I’m saying this right.) When ColdEeze came out years ago, they had studies done showing this. Zinc spray and lozenges attack the virus in the throat before it has a chance to infect the whole body, but you have to catch it early. Sometimes I use the spray even if I’m not having symptoms as a preemptive strike. Also, I’ve been using alcohol-based hand sanitizers for years when I’m out and about.

    Using this regimen, including eating right, getting enough rest, and trusting God to protect me and my family, I rarely get sick.
     
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    Rita Well-Known Member

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    I think the operative words are ‘ if you have any savings ‘ !! Lol
    However if I come into any money I will consider what you have relayed x
    Rita
     
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    I already take supplements and I rarely get colds and never had flu x
    Rita
     
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    That part came from the WHO and then the CDC sheepishly admitted that it was true and that the surfaces were in a lab not out in the regular environment
     
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    So you believe that viruses do not live on the surfaces - so what is different about the surfaces in the lab. I am pretty sure that they are often metal / metallic.
    The reason I ask the question is because many here keep conveying that this is just another flu virus. Well Cold and Flu viruses live on surfaces - they survive for different lengths of time on different things. This is why we are encouraged to wash our hands. We pick up the virus and then touch our faces, mouth, eyes, nose. We pick up food. The virus has to get inside In order to establish itself and grow. It needs a host.
    I realise that the companies that sell wipes and disinfectant, bleach ect exaggerate how long things can live on surfaces, it doesn’t mean that they don’t live on surfaces at all.

    Rita
     
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    @Rita So much of the pharmaceutical industry is exactly about stocks and shares...
     
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    No I know because the scientist have admitted it. A lab is controlled and the standard environment is not.
     
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    Check out Bill Gates Foundation....
     
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    Gates is one of the conspirators who would like to see the destruction of America become a reality. He and his foundation have been in hot water in other countries but it took a lone Italian woman to call for his arrest. Yet no one did anything.

    There have been three conspiracies at work (over the last four years particularly). They are all tied together, and they all involve Jewish billionaires who have made their billions under the free enterprise, capitalistic system of the USA (and Gates has tried to hide his Jewish ancestry, while you will never hear that Soros is a Hungarian Jew who is also an ex-Nazi). Here are the conspiracies:

    1. The conspiracy to illegally remove Donald Trump from office (a coup d'etat). It failed, but over the course of three years it did a lot of damage to America (financially as well as otherwise).

    2. The conspiracy to destroy the economy and the liberties under the US Constitution through *Pandemic Porn* triggered by the Wuhan virus. The financial impact has been tremendous, and the loss of civil liberties is now evident to everyone.

    3. The conspiracy to destroy the USA itself through anarchists funded by the billionaires, using *race* as an excuse for rioting, looting, arson, violence, and murder, as well as the destruction and vandalism of statutes, monuments, and memorials.

    Even though all the relevant information is available through conservative news media, Mr. Trump and his administration (which includes the CIA, FBI, DOJ, DHS, etc) have failed to tell the American people that WAR HAS BEEN DECLARED ON AMERICA and that they will fight its enemies (both domestic and foreign). Which is very strange and very disturbing.

    The upcoming election will be a total sham, since massive election fraud will ensure that the Leftists capture America. Joe Biden is merely a useless Trojan Horse to get their foot in the door. The real power will be handed over to AN EVIL MARXIST WOMAN (possibly Susan Rice).
     
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