ROMANS 15:8 GENTILES IN PROPHECY

[Doug]

Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

Jesus, in his earthly ministry, came to confirm the promises made unto the fathers in regard to the earthly Davidic kingdom.

Romans15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

Paul is citing the verses below.

2 Samuel 22:50 Therefore I will give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and I will sing praises unto thy name.

Psalm 18:49 Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O LORD, among the heathen, and sing praises unto thy name.

Paul is speaking not of the mystery of the Gentiles in the body of Christ, but the Gentiles in prophecy.

Romans 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people.

Paul is citing from the verses below.

Deuteronomy 32:43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people.

Psalm 67:4 O let the nations be glad and sing for for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.

God will judge his people, the believing remnant of Israel; the Gentiles will rejoice with his people and will sing of his mercies and righteous government.

Romans 15:11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people.

Again, Paul is citing from the law of the prophets and speaking of the Gentiles praising the Lord along with his people.

Psalm 117:1 O praise the LORD, all ye nations: praise him, all ye people.

Romans15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Psalm 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD's: and he is the governor among the nations.

Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Micah 4:1 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

4:2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.

4:3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

All of these verses speak of the Gentile nations in the coming Davidic kingdom on earth. Christ will rule and reign over the nations and the Gentiles will learn of God from Jerusalem. The remnant, the Israel of God, will reign in the kingdom with Christ for a thousand years as kings and priests (Revelation 5:10 Revelation 20:4) and the Gentiles will be blessed through Israel (Isaiah 60:1-3 Genesis 18:18).

 

[Windmillcharge]

The gentiles have come into the kingdom. There are far more 'gentile' Christians than Jewish Christians.

 

[Davy]

There are far more non-Jewish Israelite Christians than Jewish Christians. Those who haven't studied their Old Testament Bible history about God splitting old Israel into two separate kingdoms are often duped by Jews who like to think they are the only chosen children of Israel.

The 'majority' of Israelites were those of the "kingdom of Israel", in the northern lands. They were the majority of the tribes of Zebulun, Naphtali, Gad, Dan, Asher, Simeon, Ephraim, Manasseh, Reuben, Issachar.

The Jews were the southern "kingdom of Judah", made up only of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, Levi, and some small remnants of the northern ten tribes that refused Jeroboam's calf idol worship in the north.

Then ten tribes of Israel were lost to the majority of the world, and to the Jews. Many of today's Jews refuse to even recognize that the ten lost tribes are still a people, even though Jewish historians like Josephus (100 A.D.) stated in his day that the ten tribes were a great number, too many to be numbered, and were still scattered beyond Euphrates in his day.

 

[DNB]

No Doug, you're wrong, the whole point of the Gentiles being allowed in the kingdom in our present age, is one, to arouse the Jews to jealousy, two, that God's mercy may be displayed to all people, and three, to confirm the innate understanding that which is in all of us, is that God is the Father of all nations. I cannot believe that you are unaware of how many gentiles were saved in the New Testament. I'm a Gentile.

Romans 11:25
11:25. I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

Romans 11:30-33
11:30. Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31. so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God's mercy to you. 32. For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all. 33. Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!

Romans 10:12
10:12. For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him,

Romans 9:30-31
9:30. What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; 31. but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it.

Romans 11:13-14
11:13. I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry 14. in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.