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Genesis 24:67​

67 Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Does this mean that Isaac had sex with Rebekah and that is how they became husband and wife? There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
EDIT: Question has been answered by Lambano (Thank you), marriage took place in verses 50-53 that I missed
 
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The Bible is scripture. This portion was written over 5,000 years ago when pen, ink, and paper were extremely expensive. Meaning they didn't waste words saying obvious things. Like: "they had a marriage ceremony/celebration for a week and then they had sex and through that marriage Isaac found comfort in the arms of his wife because she was good to him. "

Hebrew is a metaphoric language with all sorts of nuances.. Completely unlike English. It is full of idiomatic expressions as well as hyperbole and grammar that doesn't exist in English.

What this particular passage of scripture is saying is that Isaac loved his wife and felt like he needed her. She wasn't treated as a half step above property as many men do with their wives.

Sex?
Not really discussed in this passage. It's a "of course" thing...something that the reader already assumes to have happened just like a marriage ceremony was assumed to have happened before she was 'in his tent". "In his tent" is another idiomatic expressions that she lived with him...where yes she actually was in his tent at times most of the time she wasn't. Nomadic lifestyles are very different from today.
 

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Genesis 24:67​

67 Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Does this mean that Isaac had sex with Rebekah and that is how they became husband and wife? There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
That was the way of things before the early Catholic church got involved. I believe a man and a woman who are committed to each other are married in God's eyes. The formal wedding, in a registry office, church building or anywhere else is the legal joining. The spiritual joining is private. Of course promiscuity doesn't count and that is sinful.
 

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Does this mean that Isaac had sex with Rebekah and that is how they became husband and wife? There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
Legally, the marriage occurred back in verses 50-53 when Bethuel agreed with Isaac's servant to "give" his daughter away in return for some jewelry, clothing, and costly gifts. The marriage became official when it was consummated in Isaac's mother's tent. Which has kind of a kinky weird vibe to it.
 
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Legally, the marriage occurred back in verses 50-53 when Bethuel agreed with Isaac's servant to "give" his daughter away in return for some jewelry, clothing, and costly gifts. The marriage became official when it was consummated in Isaac's mother's tent. Which has kind of a weird vibe to it.
And still today I believe a marriage which has not been consummated can be annulled as if it never happened. So it is the joining of bodies that make the marriage - with or without a piece of paper.
 
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I got married once in my life but have had numerous girlfriends before I became Christian. I felt Jesus at the wedding telling me in the spirit that Jesus supports marriage and that it is important. Whether or not you have become one flesh with someone you're not married to is another issue. The bible talks about adultery and fornication. Those terms are used differently than marriage. And the only reason for divorce proclaimed by Jesus is a spouse that cheats. Let's examine some scripture about marriage surrounding Jesus the Christ:

"During a wedding in Cana of Galilee, Jesus, at Mary's request, transforms approximately 120 gallons of water into wine, the quality of which is highly praised by the ruler of the feast.  Jesus chose a wedding to perform His first miracle, doubtless to emphasize the sanctity of marriage." https://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1098&context=second_person

Revelation 19:
6 Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,

“Hallelujah!
For the Lord our God
the Almighty reigns.
7 Let us rejoice and exult
and give him the glory,
for the marriage of the Lamb has come,
and his Bride has made herself ready;

8 it was granted her to clothe herself
with fine linen, bright and pure”—
for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.


9 And the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.” And he said to me, “These are the true words of God.”
 

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The section about divorce:

Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
 

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And still today I believe a marriage which has not been consummated can be annulled as if it never happened. So it is the joining of bodies that make the marriage - with or without a piece of paper.
Yeah. My wife and I made a big deal about making my stepson and the woman who would later become his first wife sleep in separate bedrooms when they visited. It caused some hard feelings. After that, we decided to treat guests who are living together but cannot legally claim "married filing jointly" status on their tax returns as though they were de facto husband-and-wife.
 
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Legally, the marriage occurred back in verses 50-53 when Bethuel agreed with Isaac's servant to "give" his daughter away in return for some jewelry, clothing, and costly gifts. The marriage became official when it was consummated in Isaac's mother's tent. Which has kind of a weird vibe to it.
Correct, I read that but must not have truly read it and forgot, thank you!
 
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God supports certain ordinances that you might consider ceremonial. They are recorded all thru out the old and new testament. Like baptism, bread and wine, sacrificing animals in the old testament with precision and importance to ceremony. We should all see that God loves formality. He is a God of order not chaos.

I would then consider marriage to be similar to baptism. Where the committing of such acts shows a certain sincerity, devotion and reverence on the part of the participants not to mention they are works of faith.
 
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There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
EDIT: Question has been answered by Lambano (Thank you), marriage took place in verses 50-53 that I missed
Your specific reference to Isaac may have been answered but you bring up a great point. And I think the better example is Adam and Eve because there was no priest to marry them.

It's worth noting that the concept of marriage of a man and a woman transcends culture. One must ask themselves why would nations who do not embrace Judeo-Christian ethics still embrace this? Because sex between men and women is ordained by God!

God invented sex!

Perverts tend to forget this. Our culture is more individualist than any that every existed before and I like to go back to humans in a state of nature to simply things, as Adam and Eve were. Imagine you are on a deserted island with no reasonable chance of getting off. There is one other human being on the island, a person of the opposite sex. It's obvious that your mutual survival - especially through time - depends on sex and LTR (aka marriage).

We are much more dependent on each other than today's American culture wants to admit. Also, there is no such thing as "just" sex. One night stands is not a successful survival strategy.
 

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Genesis 24:67​

67 Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Does this mean that Isaac had sex with Rebekah and that is how they became husband and wife? There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
EDIT: Question has been answered by Lambano (Thank you), marriage took place in verses 50-53 that I missed

That's not quite accurate. Lambano got it wrong, while you got it right.

The marriage union is the sexual act of coming together. That's why it's called a union.

Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.

Jesus taught the same>>>

Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh.


No "marriage" took place in verses 50-53. Issac wasn't even present. It was the girl's dad who made an agreement with Abraham's servant to allow him to take her away to be joined with Issac-- which happened just as you say-- in that tent. That's the ONLY way a man and woman became man and wife. The marriage act is sexual.
 
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Legally, the marriage occurred back in verses 50-53 when Bethuel agreed with Isaac's servant to "give" his daughter away in return for some jewelry, clothing, and costly gifts. The marriage became official when it was consummated in Isaac's mother's tent. Which has kind of a kinky weird vibe to it.

Not true. We know it's not true, because scripture is clear about what marriage is, and how it comes about.

He takes a virgin and makes her a wife.
 

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That was the way of things before the early Catholic church got involved. I believe a man and a woman who are committed to each other are married in God's eyes. The formal wedding, in a registry office, church building or anywhere else is the legal joining. The spiritual joining is private. Of course promiscuity doesn't count and that is sinful.
That's because the Catholic Church takes marriage more seriously than most.

It is elevated as something holy and sacred - not just a simple matter of companionship. And just as God intended, divorce is NOT an option (Matt. 19:6).

The Church recognizes that the Scriptures compare the relationship between Jesus and His Church as a marriage.
 

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Genesis 24:67​

67 Then Isaac brought her into the tent of Sarah his mother and took Rebekah, and she became his wife, and he loved her. So Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.

Does this mean that Isaac had sex with Rebekah and that is how they became husband and wife? There is no mention of them having a marriage, does this mean you would technically speaking, be considered married to the person you have sex with, obviously in the context of a long term relationship, not a one night stand.
EDIT: Question has been answered by Lambano (Thank you), marriage took place in verses 50-53 that I missed
If I may add some information about first century marriages in Israel…..there was no ceremony as such. No priests officiated. A betrothal was as a binding on a relationship as if they were married already. Some were arranged by the parents and others were by the groom’s choice. We remember that Mary was found to be pregnant with Jesus before she and Joseph were married….and Joseph was going to “divorce her secretly” so as not to bring shame on her.

The community knew of the betrothal (like an engagement) and on a certain day when preparation had been made for the new bride, the groom would walk to his fiancé’s home and escort his beautifully dressed bride to her new abode, which was either a new house, if the groom was wealthy, or a room built on his parent’s home for the new couple. The bride and groom were congratulated along the route by well wishers as he brought his new bride home. The marriage was considered complete when it was consummated.

Only wealthy people had marriage feasts to celebrate the occasion. This was the case when Jesus performed his first miracle….
 

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Our marriage failures, in our culture now, is that I find that people seldom understand the concept of "commitment."

In biblical times, commitment was the basis of marriage. A man had to truly want a woman in order to marry here.

God hates divorce - and man's heart was so hard that Moses permitted divorce so that a woman once abandoned could find someone to provide for her without being stoned for harlotry. It was not easy for an abandoned female to support herself.

I think that commitment makes marriages. Paperwork just makes it official in the eyes of the government.
 
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