Seals Trumps and Vials(order)

[n2thelight]

Each of these events takes place at around the same time

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1st Trumpet Hail and Fire mingled with blood, a third of the earth burned up, all green grass burned up Rev 8:6-7

1st Bowl Horrible sores on the ones that have the mark of the beast and worship his image Rev 16:2

4th Seal The Pale Horse: Death -One fourth of the earth is killed . Hell follows this horse. They kill with the sword, hunger, death and beasts. Rev 6:7-8
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2nd Trumpet A something like a great mountain burning with fire cast into the sea, a third of the sea becomes blood, a third of the living creatures of the sea die, a third of the ships are destroyed Rev 8:8-9

2nd Bowl Sea became blood like that of a dead man and every living thing in the sea died Rev 16:3

3rd Seal The Black Horse: Famine- Comes holding scales-A voice says - A days food will cost a day’s wages and don’t hurt the oil and wine. Rev 6:5-6

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3rd Trumpet Wormwood, a great star from heaven, burning like a torch, falls upon a third of the rivers and springs of water. A third of the waters are made bitter and a third of the men die from the waters Rev 8:10- 11

2nd Seal The Red Horse: War- Take peace from the earth with a great sword Rev 6:3-4

3rd Bowl The rivers and the springs of waters became blood. Rev 16:4

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4th Trumpet A third of the sun, moon and stars are struck and darkened so a third of the day and night wouldn’t shine Rev 8:12

4th Bowl The sun was given the power to scorch men with fire Rev 16:8-9

1st Seal The White Horse: Antichrist Comes with a bow and crowns are given to him. He goes forth conquering and to conquer. Rev 6:1-2

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From here it's 555 666 and 777

 

[Timtofly]

Why do you leave out the Thunderings? Did John lie, and God will not show us soon?

Also, why did John not write the book the way you did? Did John go out of his way, to mix up the order? Did he have a memory lapse and write down events in the wrong order? Why did God let such a mess into God's Word?

 

[Waiting on him]

2nd Seal The Red Horse: War- Take peace from the earth with a great sword Rev 6:3-4

Matthew 10:34 KJV
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 

[Waiting on him]

1st Seal The White Horse: Antichrist Comes with a bow and crowns are given to him. He goes forth conquering and to conquer. Rev 6:1-2

Zechariah 9:13-14 KJV
When I have bent Judah for me, filled the bow with Ephraim, and raised up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and made thee as the sword of a mighty man. [14] And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.

 

[Waiting on him]

1st Seal The White Horse: Antichrist Comes with a bow and crowns are given to him. He goes forth conquering and to conquer. Rev 6:1-2

Come on, do you really believe it's anti Christ that received a crown?

 

[Waiting on him]

Revelation 14:14 KJV
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Only one is fit for a crown.

 

[Enoch111]

Each of these events takes place at around the same time...

That would be truly bizarre, if not impossible. So here is how it is laid out CHRONOLOGICALLY.

Seals: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
7th seal has seven trumpets: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
7th trumpet has seven vials: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7

 

[n2thelight]

Come on, do you really believe it's anti Christ that received a crown?

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

This one who rode on the white horse had a bow, but without arrows. He had the authority, but not the strength to back up his authority. But the strength he did have was through deception. The rider of the white horse is Satan in the role of the Antichrist. Satan will come first as the fake Christ, the Antichrist; and he will ride and conquer the people of the entire earth.

The rider of this white horse is not the rider of the white horse who comes with a rainbow around his head, and a rainbow around the throne he leaves. This "bow" in the Greek is a cheap fabric, or imitation, In the Greek it's called "toxon". His grandeur will be cheap, yet convincing all of those who are looking for the rider of the "first horse" to fly them out of here. The Antichrist will offer them all they desire in fulfilling their wishes.

Word References:

"bow" - 5115 toxon (tox'-on); from the base of 5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): KJV-- bow.

In the nineteenth chapter we will see the true Christ coming in all his glory, and then this first rider of the white horse will go to the pit. The first rider of the white horse does not come in war, for no arrows are mentioned; he will come in religious peace.

Daniel 8:23 "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and under standing dark sentences, shall stand up."

Daniel 8:24
"And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

This king is Satan, and he will "destroy", which means "deceive" many. How will this deception come? "Wonderfully", which is even deceiving. Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 6381; "Pala; a prime root; distinguished, great, marvelous, miracles, wonderfully." Friend that is how Satan, the Antichrist will come to earth. Satan will have his bag of tricks, and supply your every need, and all he expects from you is your worship, and your soul.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

 

[Waiting on him]

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

This one who rode on the white horse had a bow, but without arrows. He had the authority, but not the strength to back up his authority. But the strength he did have was through deception. The rider of the white horse is Satan in the role of the Antichrist. Satan will come first as the fake Christ, the Antichrist; and he will ride and conquer the people of the entire earth.

The rider of this white horse is not the rider of the white horse who comes with a rainbow around his head, and a rainbow around the throne he leaves. This "bow" in the Greek is a cheap fabric, or imitation, In the Greek it's called "toxon". His grandeur will be cheap, yet convincing all of those who are looking for the rider of the "first horse" to fly them out of here. The Antichrist will offer them all they desire in fulfilling their wishes.

Word References:

"bow" - 5115 toxon (tox'-on); from the base of 5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): KJV-- bow.

In the nineteenth chapter we will see the true Christ coming in all his glory, and then this first rider of the white horse will go to the pit. The first rider of the white horse does not come in war, for no arrows are mentioned; he will come in religious peace.

Daniel 8:23 "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and under standing dark sentences, shall stand up."

Daniel 8:24
"And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

This king is Satan, and he will "destroy", which means "deceive" many. How will this deception come? "Wonderfully", which is even deceiving. Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 6381; "Pala; a prime root; distinguished, great, marvelous, miracles, wonderfully." Friend that is how Satan, the Antichrist will come to earth. Satan will have his bag of tricks, and supply your every need, and all he expects from you is your worship, and your soul.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

Daniel 8:11-14 KJV
Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. [12] And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. [13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? [14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

You know the Jews have had a serious problem for the last 2000 years, since the sacrifice and oblation ceased, they've had no way to atone for their sins, or so they believe.

 

[Waiting on him]

"And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People

Who in your opinion are the holy and mighty people?

 

[Davy]

Daniel 8:11-14 KJV
Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. [12] And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. [13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? [14] And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

You know the Jews have had a serious problem for the last 2000 years, since the sacrifice and oblation ceased, they've had no way to atone for their sins, or so they believe.

Which is why the orthodox Jews already have the materials ready to build their new temple in the last days, a plan they've had every since Israel became a nation again in 1948.

 

[Waiting on him]

Which is why the orthodox Jews already have the materials ready to build their new temple in the last days, a plan they've had every since Israel became a nation again in 1948.

I see, Is there a scripture reference stating that the daily sacrifice will be reinstated?

 

[Davy]

I see, Is there a scripture reference stating that the daily sacrifice will be reinstated?

Yes, an indirect reference within the Book of Daniel. And I think I've already covered that in this thread or in another thread.


In order for the daily sacrifice to be stopped, it first must of course be going on. That is how it is an indirect reference in the Book of Daniel:

Dan 8:9-14
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
KJV

Mark 13:14-15
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:
KJV

That is what that "transgression" and "sanctuary was cast down" ideas are about, i.e. that "abomination of desolation" Jesus warned of that will occur in a temple in Jerusalem for the very end of this world. Apostle Paul warned of the same event in the false one of 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

Dan 9:26-27
27 This king will make a seven-year treaty with the people, but after half that time, he will break his pledge and stop the Jews from all their sacrifices and their offerings; then, as a climax to all his terrible deeds, the Enemy shall utterly defile the sanctuary of God. But in God's time and plan, his judgment will be poured out upon this Evil One."
TLB

Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV

Dan 12:9-12
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
KJV

That Dan.12 mention of the ending of sacrifices and setting up of the abomination that maketh desolate is given in context of the very end of this world, not 70 A.D. That provides a particular stump for Preterists and Historicists that try to move that abomination of desolation event to back in history. And I chuckle when those fooled by men's traditions push the idea that Antiochus IV fullfilled those things from the Book of Daniel back in history; especially since Antiochus was already dead when Jesus warned of the "abomination of desolation" from Daniel about 200 years later.

 

[Waiting on him]

Yes, an indirect reference within the Book of Daniel. And I think I've already covered that in this thread or in another thread.


In order for the daily sacrifice to be stopped, it first must of course be going on. That is how it is an indirect reference in the Book of Daniel:

Dan 8:9-14
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
KJV

Mark 13:14-15
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:
KJV

That is what that "transgression" and "sanctuary was cast down" ideas are about, i.e. that "abomination of desolation" Jesus warned of that will occur in a temple in Jerusalem for the very end of this world. Apostle Paul warned of the same event in the false one of 2 Thessalonians 2:4.

Dan 9:26-27
27 This king will make a seven-year treaty with the people, but after half that time, he will break his pledge and stop the Jews from all their sacrifices and their offerings; then, as a climax to all his terrible deeds, the Enemy shall utterly defile the sanctuary of God. But in God's time and plan, his judgment will be poured out upon this Evil One."
TLB

Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
KJV

Dan 12:9-12
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
KJV

That Dan.12 mention of the ending of sacrifices and setting up of the abomination that maketh desolate is given in context of the very end of this world, not 70 A.D. That provides a particular stump for Preterists and Historicists that try to move that abomination of desolation event to back in history. And I chuckle when those fooled by men's traditions push the idea that Antiochus IV fullfilled those things from the Book of Daniel back in history; especially since Antiochus was already dead when Jesus warned of the "abomination of desolation" from Daniel about 200 years later.

Well, I'm certainly not a huge student of end time events, but just from what you've posted I'd say this little horn is referring to Jesus.

 

[Davy]

Well, I'm certainly not a huge student of end time events, but just from what you've posted I'd say this little horn is referring to Jesus.

Not at all.

The "little horn" is the beast king of Revelation 17, the one the ten horns in Rev.17 give their power to for one hour.

Dan 7:7-9
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
KJV

That's the final beast of Revelation 13:1-2 that is to have ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. That little horn that has eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things is the "dragon" of Revelation 13:4-8...

Rev 13:4-6
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
KJV

So no, that definitely is not about Lord Jesus.

 

[Waiting on him]

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
KJV

Who do you believe this refers to?

And if you had to count the times Jesus was accused of speaking blasphemy, what would that number be?

 

[Waiting on him]

Revelation 6:2 "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

This one who rode on the white horse had a bow, but without arrows. He had the authority, but not the strength to back up his authority. But the strength he did have was through deception. The rider of the white horse is Satan in the role of the Antichrist. Satan will come first as the fake Christ, the Antichrist; and he will ride and conquer the people of the entire earth.

The rider of this white horse is not the rider of the white horse who comes with a rainbow around his head, and a rainbow around the throne he leaves. This "bow" in the Greek is a cheap fabric, or imitation, In the Greek it's called "toxon". His grandeur will be cheap, yet convincing all of those who are looking for the rider of the "first horse" to fly them out of here. The Antichrist will offer them all they desire in fulfilling their wishes.

Word References:

"bow" - 5115 toxon (tox'-on); from the base of 5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): KJV-- bow.

In the nineteenth chapter we will see the true Christ coming in all his glory, and then this first rider of the white horse will go to the pit. The first rider of the white horse does not come in war, for no arrows are mentioned; he will come in religious peace.

Daniel 8:23 "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and under standing dark sentences, shall stand up."

Daniel 8:24
"And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy People."

This king is Satan, and he will "destroy", which means "deceive" many. How will this deception come? "Wonderfully", which is even deceiving. Strong's Hebrew dictionary # 6381; "Pala; a prime root; distinguished, great, marvelous, miracles, wonderfully." Friend that is how Satan, the Antichrist will come to earth. Satan will have his bag of tricks, and supply your every need, and all he expects from you is your worship, and your soul.

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

And His name shall be called wonderful?

And also in your opinion did Jesus go down come down to " the pit "?

 

[Waiting on him]

Dan 9:26-27
27 This king will make a seven-year treaty with the people, but after half that time, he will break his pledge and stop the Jews from all their sacrifices and their offerings; then, as a climax to all his terrible deeds, the Enemy shall utterly defile the sanctuary of God. But in God's time and plan, his judgment will be poured out upon this Evil One."
TLB

Had they known their peace, He would have gathered them under His wings, but they didn't so He was cut off in the middle of the week, and the wrath we were so deserving of was poured out upon Him on Calvary.

The Temple of God which by all definition was the body of Christ was destroyed, but he has raised it up.

 

[marks]

The first rider of the white horse does not come in war, for no arrows are mentioned; he will come in religious peace.

That would be an argument from silence.

 

[n2thelight]

That would be an argument from silence.

Why,when Daniel gives it to you?

Daniel 8:25 "And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."