SEDEVACANTISM: THE CHAIR OF ST. PETER IS INDEED VACANT

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SEDEVACANTISM: THE CHAIR OF ST. PETER IS INDEED VACANT

For those who are wondering about the deceitful speech and perverted behavior of the vatican II claimants to the Papacy, but cannot come to rational conclusions, as to why this is happening, and that it seems that there is no end in sight, I would like to reveal why all of these things happened, since the time of 1958. It would also serve to prove that the Catholic church is the one true of Jesus Christ.

But I would also say that the cause of the confusion, disunity and the chaos emanating from Rome, symptomatically preceded the culminating effect in 1958, with the uncanonically elected “pope” called John XXIII. St. Francis of Assisi prophesied the usurpation of the Chair of St. Peter. I also point to Pope St. Pius X, as proof of cause and effect i.e. modernism, heresies etc that he saw in his day, before the onset of the revolution of the vatican II sect.

Pope St. Pius X, E Supremi (# 5), Oct. 4, 1903: “... there is good reason to fear lest this great perversity may be as it were a foretaste, and perhaps the beginning of those evils which are reserved for the last days; and that there may already be in the world the ‘Son of Perdition’ of whom the Apostle speaks (2 Thess. 2:3).”

In fact, Our Lady of La Salette in 1846 predicted that Rome would lose the faith and become the seat of the antichrist, the church would be in eclipse, covered over by a counterfeit catholic church. All these errors, in fact, brought about the robber council i.e. the second vatican council.

Our Lady of La Salette, “Rome will lose the faith and become the seat [place] of the antichrist, the church will be in eclipse.” [covered over]

A major reason why many people who call themselves catholic who “wonder” and cannot come to rational conclusions, that the Chair of St. Peter is vacant, is because of the misunderstanding of the perpetuity of succession of popes to the office of the papacy, the indefectibility of the catholic church and the gates of hell.

Regarding indefectibility of the catholic church, the catholic church remains the same, it is always immaculate and pure. The Catholic church, is a society of believers, those who hold to every truth of the Catholic church. They do not recede in the least degree from any doctrine of the Catholic church.

Anyone who recedes from the catholic faith, places himself outside the catholic church. The church, the remaining society of believers, is not effected but only the one person, who has defected.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896:The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative Magisterium.

God does not consider the number of His members.

St. Athanasius: “Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they would be the true Church.”

Fr. William Jurgens: “At one point in the Church’s history, only a few years before Gregory’s [Nazianz] present preaching (+380 A.D.), perhaps the number of Catholic bishops in possession of sees, as opposed to Arian bishops in possession of sees, was no greater than something between 1% and 3% of the total. Had doctrine been determined by popularity, today we should all be deniers of Christ and opponents of the Spirit.”

Fr. William Jurgens: “In the time of the Emperor Valens (4th century), Basil was virtually the only orthodox Bishop in all the East who succeeded in retaining charge of his see… If it has no other importance for modern man, a knowledge of the history of Arianism should demonstrate at least that the Catholic Church takes no account of popularity and numbers in shaping and maintaining doctrine: else, we should long since have had to abandon Basil and Hilary and Athanasius and Liberius and Ossius and call ourselves after Arius.”

Indefectibility is found in the faithful remnant. Jesus said that his words i.e. the catholic faith, would not pass away. He promised that He will be with His church, even to the consummation of the world.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

John 14:26 But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

**2 John 1:2 For the sake of the truth which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.**

Regarding the gates of hell, the meaning is heresies, lies and heretics.

John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. … When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof."

Pope Vigilius, Second Council of Constantinople, 553: “... we bear in mind what was promised about the holy Church and Him who said the gates of Hell will not prevail against it (by these we understand the death-dealing tongues of heretics)...”

Pope St. Leo IX, Sept. 2, 1053: “The holy Church built upon a rock, that is Christ, and upon Peter... because by the gates of Hell, that is, by the disputations of heretics which lead the vain to destruction, it would never be overcome.”

Pope Innocent III, Eius exemplo, Dec. 18, 1208: “By the heart we believe and by the mouth we confess the one Church, not of heretics, but the Holy Roman, Catholic, and Apostolic Church outside of which we believe that no one is saved.”

St. Francis De Sales (17th century), Doctor of the Church, The Catholic Controversy, pp. 305-306: "Now when he [the Pope] is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church..."

Notice that heretics are the gates of Hell. Heretics are not members of the Church. That’s why a heretic could never be a pope. The gates of Hell (heretics) could never have authority over the Church of Christ. The vatican II sect is a counterfeit catholic church.

 

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Regarding the promise of perpetuity of succession of God’s man [pope] on His Throne, it was entirely conditional. The promise was directly linked to obedience to God’s Laws. This is found in the third book of Kings and the second book of Paralipomenon. It pertains to David, and his son Solomon and the Temple of Solomon. And by the way, infallibility [not fail] was specifically introduced at the sanctification of Solomon’s Temple, the foreshadow of the Catholic church.

Luke 22:31-32 And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not:

3 Kings 9:3-9 [3] And the Lord said to him: I have heard thy prayer and thy supplication, which thou hast made before me: I have sanctified this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever, and my eyes and my heart shall be there always. [4] And if thou wilt walk before me, as thy father walked, in simplicity of heart, and in uprightness: and wilt do all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my ordinances and my judgments, [5] I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Israel for ever, as I promised David thy father, saying: There shall not fail a man of thy race upon the throne of Israel. [6] But if you and your children revolting shall turn away from following me, and will not keep my commandments, and my ceremonies, which I have set before you, but will go and worship strange gods, and adore them: [7] I will take away Israel from the face of the land which I have given them; and the temple which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast out of my sight; and Israel shall be a proverb, and a byword among all people. [8] And this house shall be made an example of: every one that shall pass by it, shall be astonished, and shall hiss, and say: Why hath the Lord done thus to this land, and to this house: [9] And they shall answer: Because they forsook the Lord their God, who brought their fathers out of the land of Egypt, and followed strange gods, and adored them, and worshipped them: therefore hath the Lord brought upon them all this evil.

A Catholic priest and biblical scholar Rev. George Leo Haydock (1774-1849) confirms the conditionality of Divine Providence and the punishment for revolting.

Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary, 1859 edition.

3 Kings 9 verse 7. Take away, by death or exile. (Haydock) --- Sight. God is disposed to grant favours to those who approach his temples with piety. If they indulge their passions, he will suffer these holy places to be profaned, as a dreadful warning of his displeasure. The Jews enjoyed prosperity while they continued faithful. On their revolt, the ark was taken, the temple pillaged by Sesac, burnt by Nabuchodonosor, profaned by Antiochus, and destroyed by the Romans. (Calmet)


2 Paralipomenon 7:16-22 [16] For I have chosen, and have sanctified this place, that my name may be there for ever, and my eyes and my heart may remain there perpetually. [17] And as for thee, if thou walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and keep my justices and my judgments: [18] I will raise up the throne of thy kingdom, as I promised to David thy father, saying: There shall not fail thee a man of thy stock to be ruler in Israel. [19] But if you turn away, and forsake my justices, and my commandments which I have set before you, and shall go and serve strange gods, and adore them, [20] I will pluck you up by the root out of my land which I have given you: and this house which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast away from before my face, and will make it a byword, and an example among all nations. [21] And this house shall be for a proverb to all that pass by, and they shall be astonished and say: Why hath the Lord done thus to this land, and to this house? [22] And they shall answer: Because they forsook the Lord the God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on strange gods, and adored them, and worshipped them: therefore all these evils are come upon them.

Please notice the simplicity of the text of the verses, the conditionality of obedience and the words “may be there for ever” and “may remain there perpetually” and the very glaring word of revolt [2 Thessalonians 2:3] and the descriptive punishment that is attached to the revolt and disobedience. God says that He will cast out of His sight, the people and His church.

God is the same yesterday, today and always.

Malachias 3:6 For I am the Lord, and I change not:

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor as the son of man, that he should be changed. Hath he said then, and will he not do? hath he spoken, and will he not fulfill?

God is true, faithful and consistent from the very beginning.

What happened to Adam and Eve, when they revolted and disobeyed God’s Law?

Genesis 3:23-24 [23] And the Lord God sent him out of the paradise of pleasure, to till the earth from which he was taken. [24] And he cast out Adam; and placed before the paradise of pleasure Cherubims, and a flaming sword, turning every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

What happened to Adam, also happened to the children of Israel after the infidelity of King Solomon [3 Kings ch. 11]. And it was a reoccurring theme before Solomon and thereafter and all the way through the books of the Machabees.

Some people might say; “Well, that’s the old testament, that will not happen in the new testament”. This is entirely false and unbiblical. True Catholics, understand that the New Testament, is in the Old concealed and the Old Testament, is in the New revealed.

For example, we can see Jesus carrying the Holy Cross to Golgotha, the Sacrifice of Jesus, and the Crowning of Thorns, correlating with Isaac, in the book of Genesis.

Genesis 22:5-6, 9-13 [5] ... I and the boy will go with speed as far as yonder, and after we have worshipped, will return to you. [6] And he took the wood for the holocaust, and laid it upon Isaac his son: And as they two went on together, [9] ... and when he had bound Isaac his son, he laid him on the altar upon the pile of wood. [10] And he put forth his hand and took the sword, to sacrifice his son. [11] And behold an angel of the Lord from heaven called to him, saying: Abraham, Abraham. And he answered: Here I am. [12] And he said to him: Lay not thy hand upon the boy, neither do thou any thing to him: now I know that thou fearest God, and hast not spared thy only begotten son for my sake. [13] Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw behind his back a ram amongst the briers sticking fast by the horns, which he took and offered for a holocaust instead of his son.

Abraham, took the wood and laid it on the back of Isaac, which Isaac carried, signifying Jesus carrying wooden Holy Cross. Abraham placed Isaac on the altar, signifying God the Father offering His only begotten Son, Jesus. After Abraham was stayed by the Angel, he noticed the providential ram and its horns [head] stuck among the briers [thorns]. God provided the ram for the sacrifice, instead of Isaac, signifying what would happen to Jesus in the future.

There are countless different examples between the old and the new.

Another example is with Moses, the children of Israel were complaining about the heavenly Manna [light food] in the desert. God sent fiery serpents to bite and kill many of them. The children of Israel asked Moses to pray for them to God. God told Moses to make a brazen serpent and put it on a wooden pole and lift it up and when those that were bitten, look upon the serpent, they were healed.

Numbers 21:8-9 [8] And the Lord said to him: Make brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign: whosoever being struck shall look on it, shall live. [9] Moses therefore made a brazen serpent, and set it up for a sign:

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the desert, so must the Son of man be lifted up:

To further demonstrate this principle of continuity of the old and the new testaments but from the perspective of the corruptible man, in all ages, there is nothing new under the Sun. Because of original sin, man being prone to evil, the majority of men, will to be the same in all generations.

Man’s revolting behavior from God, will be the same. Only this time, in the end times, it is magnified in a way, that pales all other ages. The vices of indifferentism, relativism, apathy, laziness etc allows history to repeat itself.

Ecclesiastes 1:10 Nothing under the sun is new, neither is any man able to say: Behold this is new: for it hath already gone before in the ages that were before us.

And so it is, after revealing the conditionality [promise] of a perpetual succession of Popes, that it is predicated upon obedience, the rational conclusion, is that the Chair of St. Peter is vacant. We have been living through the Supreme punishment given by God since 1958 because of sins. At this point in this article, for those who still doubt, just look at the general moral depravity of man in the world [sins]. For instance, the killing of the most helpless and innocent i.e. abortion. The womb of a women, has been turned into the most dangerous place in the world. In fact, it has become a factory for baby parts, for profit. World wide idolatry. And the biggest and greatest moral depravity in the world, is the world wide acceptance and promotion of homosexuality i.e. death, extinction, the mocking of the procreative power of the marriage act.

 

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For those who continue to think that we are not in the end times, just read what Luke had to say about the proliferation of homosexuality and the end of the world.

Luke 17:26-30 [26] And as it came to pass in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. [27] They did eat and drink, they married wives, and were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark: and the flood came and destroyed them all. [28] Likewise as it came to pass, in the days of Lot: they did eat and drink, they bought and sold, they planted and built. [29] And in the day that Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. [30] Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man shall be revealed.

2 Peter 3:10-12 [10] But the day of the Lord shall come as a thief, in which the heavens shall pass away with great violence, and the elements shall be melted with heat, and the earth and the works which are in it, shall be burnt up. [11] Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness? [12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of the Lord, by which the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with the burning heat?

Collectively, in the old and the new testaments, I would like to provide scriptural evidence, that the usurpation of the Chair of St. Peter was prophesied. The conclusion will be that we are in the end times as Our Lady of Fatima said and that God did allow deceitful men, masquerading in catholic robes, working for satan, to profane and usurp the Chair of St. Peter and the real estate of the Catholic church because of man revolting away from God.

It will also be conclusive that these deceitful men did set up their own throne of impiety with false altars over and against the true altar of God, which in fact, is the abomination of desolation, standing where it ought not. And that the claimants to the papacy, of the vatican II sect, are not popes but antipopes and they are not to be followed.

The books that are used as evidence are; Genesis, Kings, Paralipomenon, Ecclesiastes, Isaias, Daniel, Hosea, Machabees, Matthew, Mark, St. Paul, St. John, St. Jude, Apocalypse. First let me summarized the vatican II sect.

Many examples of apostasy could be given in the old testament to correlate the [decoy] counterfeit catholic church, the vatican II sect. For instance the Prophecy of Hosea.

Prophecy of Osee [Hosea] 7:8-9, 11 [8] Ephraim himself is mixed among the nations: [9] ... Strangers have devoured his strength, and he knew it not: ... [11] And Ephraim is become as a dove that is decoyed, not having a heart:

A good example of Hosea with recent history would be the “Assisi Prayer Day For Peace” in 1986, all the false religions of the nations were organized by Antipope John Paul II, the false bishop of the counterfeit [decoy] catholic church, to come together and pray for peace.

God told Hosea to marry a harlot, to signify that the House of Ephraim had apostatized from God. He married Gomer. Wow! What a perfect parallel for the vatican II sect!

Prophecy of Osee [Hosea] 6:10 I have seen a horrible thing in the house of Israel: the fornications of Ephraim there: Israel is defiled.

Antipope Paul VI created new and opposing doctrines and laid them over the consistent teachings of the Catholic church. Truth was cast down on the ground.

Mark 7:7-8 And in vain do they worship me, teaching doctrines and precepts of men. For leaving the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men, ... And he said to them: Well do you make void the commandment of God, that you may keep your own tradition.

It began when Pope Pius XII was taken out of the way, making way for the invalid election of antipope John XXIII, who abruptly called for the second vatican robber council.

Antipope Paul VI, created a new mass, with a new altar, the abomination of desolation and brought it over and against the True Altar of God.

Antipope Paul VI, changed the words of consecration of the wine portion of the Catholic Mass. He crucified Jesus again by destroying the continual sacrifice, on Passover, April 3, 1969, just like Judas. And this will continue to the consummation and to the end.

He also changed the words of the ordination of a priest and a bishop.

Pope Leo XIII had an audible vision concerning the last battle between the devil and Jesus, which compelled him to compose the original St. Michael’s Prayer. It confirms that Antipope Paul VI did put his hands on the sacraments, the continual sacrifice and the teachings of the Catholic church.

St. Michael’s Prayer--[Prophetic part]

... “These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered. ...”

Wherefore, Antipope John XXIII and Antipope Paul VI, did usurp the Chair of St. Peter, and have raised their own throne of abominable impiety, after the death of Pope Pius XII and the completion of the covenant of the second vatican robber council, that Daniel spoke about.

Here is the biblical proof.

It begins with Isaias ch. 22, it provides the proof for the papacy in the new testament and the proof that Jesus will remove His leader and that he shall fall and the things that were hung on him shall perish, which relates to the continual sacrifice, i.e. the vessels and cups, to the wine portion of the sacrifice. Isaias also mentions the instruments of music, which relates to the music of the Mass itself.

Isaias 22:20-25 [20] And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliacim the son of Helcias, [21] And I will clothe him with thy robe, and will strengthen him with thy girdle, and will give thy power into his hand: and he shall be as a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Juda. [22] And I will lay the key of the house of David upon his shoulder: and he shall open, and none shall shut: and he shall shut, and none shall open. [23] And I will fasten him as a peg in a sure place, and he shall be for a throne of glory to the house of his father. [24] And they shall hang upon him all the glory of his father's house, divers kinds of vessels, every little vessel, from the vessels of cups even to every instrument of music. [25] In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the peg be removed, that was fastened in the sure place: and it shall be broken and shall fall: and that which hung thereon, shall perish, because the Lord hath spoken it.

Verse 22 is identical to Matthew 16:19, regarding the keys of the office of leadership and the power to bind and loose, which proves that what Isaias is talking about is the Papacy.

Isaias 22:22 And I will lay the key of the house of David upon his shoulder: and he shall open, and none shall shut: and he shall shut, and none shall open.

Matthew 16:19 And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.

In verses 23-25 Isaias identifies God’s leader as a peg and that, in that day, the peg shall be removed and the things that hung on His leader [the cup] will perish i.e. the continual sacrifice.

Matthew 26:31 Then Jesus said to them: All you shall be scandalized in me this night. For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed.

 

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Isaias expands the point in chapter 24, please keep in mind that the words of consecration of the wine portion of the sacrifice of the Catholic Mass, has been changed by Paul VI. Please notice the instruments of music for the Mass also, they are silent. And that this happened on a world scale.

Isaias 24:1, 3-13 Behold the Lord shall lay waste the earth, and shall strip it, and shall afflict the face thereof, and scatter abroad the inhabitants thereof. ... [3] With desolation shall the earth be laid waste, and it shall be utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word. [4] The earth mourned, and faded away, and is weakened: the world faded away, the height of the people of the earth is weakened. [5] And the earth is infected by the inhabitants thereof: because they have transgressed the laws, they have changed the ordinance, they have broken the everlasting covenant. [6] Therefore shall a curse devour the earth, and the inhabitants thereof shall sin: and therefore they that dwell therein shall be mad, and few men shall be left. [7] The vintage hath mourned, the vine hath languished away, all the merryhearted have sighed. [8] The mirth of timbrels hath ceased, the noise of them that rejoice is ended, the melody of the harp is silent. [9] They shall not drink wine with a song: the drink shall be bitter to them that drink it. [10] The city of vanity is broken down, every house is shut up, no man cometh in. [11] There shall be a crying for wine in the streets: all mirth is forsaken: the joy of the earth is gone away. [12] Desolation is left in the city, and calamity shall oppress the gates. [13] For it shall be thus in the midst of the earth, in the midst of the people, as if a few olives, that remain, should be shaken out of the olive tree: or grapes, when the vintage is ended.

And so, Isaias is saying that when Jesus strikes the shepherd, the sheep are scattered, the ordinance will be changed by way of the second vatican robber council, reducing the church to a remnant. The continual sacrifice will end with the changing of the words of consecration of the wine portion of the Catholic Mass, the vintage will end.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441: “…the holy Roman Church, relying on the teaching and authority of the apostles Peter and Paul… uses this form of words in the consecration of the Lord’s Body: FOR THIS IS MY BODY. And of His blood: FOR THIS IS THE CHALICE OF MY BLOOD, OF THE NEW AND ETERNAL TESTAMENT: THE MYSTERY OF FAITH, WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU AND FOR MANY UNTO THE REMISSION OF SINS.“

In Pope St. Pius V’s Decree De Defectibus, we find the same words repeated: Pope St. Pius V, De Defectibus, chapter 5, Part 1: “The words of Consecration, which are the FORM of this Sacrament, are these: FOR THIS IS MY BODY. And: FOR THIS IS THE CHALICE OF MY BLOOD, OF THE NEW AND ETERNAL TESTAMENT: THE MYSTERY OF FAITH, WHICH SHALL BE SHED FOR YOU AND FOR MANY UNTO THE REMISSION OF SINS.

Now if one were to remove, or change anything in the FORM of the consecration of the Body and Blood, and in that very change of words the [new] wording would fail to mean the same thing, he would not consecrate the sacrament.”

FORM OF CONSECRATION IN THE NEW MASS

“ For this is my body. For this is the chalice of my blood, of the new and eternal testament. It shall be shed for you and FOR ALL SO THAT SINS MAY BE FORGIVEN.”

Mysterium Fidei-Mystery of Faith, is completely removed.

The biblical proof with Daniel.

It begins with chapter 8, with the mention of the prince of the strength, sanctuary, continual sacrifice, prince of princes being broken.

Daniel 8:11-25 [11] And it was magnified even to the prince of the strength: and it took away from him the continual sacrifice, and cast down the place of his sanctuary. [12] And strength was given him against the continual sacrifice, because of sins: and truth shall be cast down on the ground, and he shall do and shall prosper. [13] And I heard one of the saints speaking, and one saint said to another, I know not to whom that was speaking: How long shall be the vision, concerning the continual sacrifice, and the sin of the desolation that is made: and the sanctuary, and the strength be trodden under foot? [14] And he said to him: Unto evening and morning two thousand three hundred days: and the sanctuary shall be cleansed. [15] And it came to pass when I Daniel saw the vision, and sought the meaning, that behold there stood before me as it were the appearance of a man. [16] And I heard the voice of a man between Ulai: and he called, and said: Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. [17] And he came and stood near where I stood: and when he was come, I fell on my face trembling, and he said to me: Understand, O son of man, for in the time of the end the vision shall be fulfilled. [18] And when he spoke to me I fell flat on the ground: and he touched me, and set me upright, [19] And he said to me: I will shew thee what things are to come to pass in the end of the malediction: for the time hath its end. [20] The ram, which thou sawest with horns, is the king of the Medes and Persians. [21] And the he goat, is the king of the Greeks, and the great horn that was between his eyes, the same is the first king. [22] But whereas when that was broken, there arose up four for it: four kings shall rise up of his nation, but not with his strength. [23] And after their reign, when iniquities shall be grown up, there shall arise a king of a shameless face, and understanding dark sentences. [24] And his power shall be strengthened, but not by his own force: and he shall lay all things waste, and shall prosper, and do more than can be believed. And he shall destroy the mighty, and the people of the saints, [25] According to his will, and craft shall be successful in his hand: and his heart shall be puffed up, and in the abundance of all things he shall kill many: and he shall rise up against the prince of princes, and shall be broken without hand.

St. Gabriel points right to the pope and the office of the Papacy. And that the son of perdition will attack the continual sacrifice. He shall destroy the souls of many peoples of the Catholic church. He will trash the truths of the Magisterium of the Catholic church. And that a false altar [sin of desolation] will be made. And the prince of princes, shall be broken and removed, just as Isaias said. St. Gabriel says that this destruction will not be physical i.e. by hand but by deception, by craft.

Isaias 22:25 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall the peg be removed, that was fastened in the sure place: and it shall be broken and shall fall: and that which hung thereon, shall perish, because the Lord hath spoken it.

2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way.

Here is more of Daniel.

Daniel 9:25-27 Know thou therefore, and take notice: that from the going forth of the word, to build up Jerusalem again, unto Christ the prince, there shall be seven weeks, and sixty-two weeks: and the street shall be built again, and the walls in straitness of times. [26] And after sixty-two weeks Christ shall be slain: and the people that shall deny him shall not be his. And a people with their leader that shall come, shall destroy the city and the sanctuary: and the end thereof shall be waste, and after the end of the war the appointed desolation. [27] And he shall confirm the covenant with many, in one week: and in the half of the week the victim and the sacrifice shall fall: and there shall be in the temple the abomination of desolation: and the desolation shall continue even to the consummation, and to the end.

From the conversion and the going forth of St. Paul in the ministry of the word, to build up the catholic church, and after a period of time, Christ shall be slain again, in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. A people and their leader shall come and destroy the city and the sanctuary. Paul VI will confirm the covenant, the second vatican council and place a false altar over and against the true altar of God. And it shall continue until the end of the world.

 

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This sounds just like the warning from Our Lady of La Salette, France. I will state it again.

Our Lady of La Salette, “Rome will lose the faith and become the seat [place] of the antichrist, the church will be in eclipse.”

And two more biblical quotes to round out Daniel. And one from the Apocalypse to confirm that the continual sacrifice has perished, the Tabernacle Lamp does not shine and also notice again the mention of the instruments, which are representative of the music of the Catholic Mass, has perished.

Daniel 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.

Daniel 12:11 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall defile the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the continual sacrifice, and they shall place there the abomination unto desolation.

Apocalypse 18:22-24 And the voice of harpers, and of musicians, and of them that play on the pipe, and on the trumpet, shall no more be heard at all in thee; and no craftsman of any art whatsoever shall be found any more at all in thee; and the sound of the mill shall be heard no more at all in thee; [23] And the light of the lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, for all nations have been deceived by thy enchantments. [24] And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

As touched on previously in this article but further refined, Antipope Paul VI, in his new creation, signed the Novus Ordo Missae on April 3, 1969, which was the day of Passover in that year. So Paul VI, killed Christ in the continual sacrifice of the Catholic Mass, on the day of Passover.

Marie Julie Jahenny, the famous Briton stigmatist, heard Satan say to Christ, “For a time I will be Master of all things, everything will be under my control, even your temple and all your people.” A few further excerpts from Marie, “and will continue implacably to obtain the cessation of Holy Mass…” On March 29, 1879: “the abandoned Church will be without its Supreme Head who governs and directs it.”

On May 10, 1904, Marie Julie Jahenny was told: “I give you a warning. The disciples who are not of My Gospel are now working hard to remake according to their ideas, and under the influence of the enemy of souls, a Mass that contains words which are odious in My Sight. When the fatal hour arrives where the Faith of my priest is put to the test, it will be these texts that will be celebrated, in the second period. The first period is the one of my priesthood, existing since me. The second is the one of the persecution, when the enemies of the Faith and of the holy religion will impose their formulas in the book of the second celebration. Many of my holy priests will refuse this book, sealed with the words of the abyss. Unfortunately, amongst them are those who will accept it.” On the say day she was told: “the dispersion of the pastors…who will be replaced by others, formed by hell, initiated in all vices, all iniquities, perfidious,….new preachers of new sacraments, new temples….”

The catholic church has had the Roman Rite Sacrifice for almost 2000 years and it was codified by Pope St. Pius V.

Pope St. Pius V, Quo Primum Tempore, July 14, 1570:
“Now, therefore, in order that all everywhere may adopt and observe what has been delivered to them by the Holy Roman Church, Mother and Mistress of the other churches, it shall be unlawful henceforth and forever throughout the Christian world to sing or to read Masses according to any formula other than this Missal published by Us... Accordingly, no one whosoever is permitted to infringe or rashly contravene this notice of Our permission, statute, ordinance, command, direction, grant, indult, declaration, will, decree, and prohibition. Should any venture to do so, let him understand that he will incur the wrath of Almighty God and of the blessed Apostles Peter and Paul.”

Malachias 3:6 For I am the Lord, and I change not:

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor as the son of man, that he should be changed. Hath he said then, and will he not do? hath he spoken, and will he not fulfill?

And so, Paul VI has incurred the Wrath of Almighty God by replacing the Traditional Roman Rite Missal with his missal of the Vatican II sect and placed a false altar of the new mass over and against the true Altar of God.

Concerning the corruption of the wine portion of the sacrifice, this happened with Jeremias also. Look at the symmetry between the old and the new.

Jeremias 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the hand of the Lord, that made all the earth drunk: the nations have drunk of her wine, and therefore they have staggered.

Apocalypse 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication; and they who inhabit the earth, have been made drunk with the wine of her whoredom.

Nothing new under the Sun!

“THE NEW, IS IN THE OLD CONCEALED, THE OLD, IS IN THE NEW REVEALED”

Moving on to St. Paul, concerning the revolution against the Catholic church and the son of perdition, who opposes the true teachings of the Catholic church. And St. Paul also confirms what Isaias and Daniel said about God’s leader being removed, taken out of the way, making way for the wicked one to be revealed.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-8 Let no man deceive you by any means, for unless there come a revolt first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, [4] Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God. [5] Remember you not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [6] And now you know what withholdeth, that he may be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity already worketh; only that he who now holdeth, do hold, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then that wicked one shall be revealed whom the Lord Jesus shall kill with the spirit of his mouth; ...

Revolution. a sudden, radical, or complete change :a fundamental change in political organization; especially the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another.

Isaias 9:6 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, ... God the Mighty, ...

The Revolution of John XXIII: The Second Vatican Council [Ignatius Press Youtube Channel]

In the old testament there are biblical verses regarding revolts and that the jews have revolted from God, numerous times, in the old testament.

Deuteronomy 11:28 A curse, if you obey not the commandments of the Lord your. God, but revolt from the way which now I shew you, and walk after strange gods which you know not.

Josue 22:16 Thus saith all the people of the Lord: What meaneth this transgression? Why have you forsaken the Lord the God of Israel, building a sacrilegious altar, and revolting from the worship of him?"

Prophecy of Jeremias 3:14 Return, O ye revolting children, saith the Lord: for I am your husband: and I will take you, one of a city, and two of a kindred, and will bring you into Sion."

Prophecy of Jeremias 8:5 Why then is this people in Jerusalem turned away with a stubborn revolting? they have laid hold on lying, and have refused to return."

St. Paul said that the son of perdition would oppose God.

 

[truth333]

continued.
The Second Vatican Council taught the complete opposite of what the true catholic church has always taught. The most specific heresy of the Vatican II sect is Nostra Aetate #4. The Vatican II sect, teaches that Jews don’t have to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation. Vatican II’s Declaration Nostra Aetate specifically declares that the Jews are not rejected by God, even though they reject Our Lord Jesus Christ. The Vatican II sect also teaches that the Old Covenant is still valid.

Vatican II Declaration, Nostra Aetate (#4): “Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or cursed by God, as if such views followed from the holy scriptures.”

Antipope John Paul II, New Catechism of the Catholic Church, Pg. 34 paragraph 121: “… for the Old Covenant has never been revoked.” Catechism of the Catholic Church

This is diametrically opposed to the Council of Florence.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441-1442, ex cathedra: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia productive of eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

Vatican II Declaration Nostra Aetate #4 says that the bible does not say, that the jews have been rejected of cursed by God.

Vatican II Declaration, Nostra Aetate (#4):“Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or cursed by God, as if such views followed from the holy scriptures.”

Here is what the bible has to say about the “jews”.

Matthew 23:31-38 Wherefore you are witnesses against yourselves, that you are the sons of them that killed the prophets. Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. You serpents, generation of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of hell? Therefore behold I send to you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them you will put to death and crucify, and some you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city: That upon you may come all the just blood that hath been shed upon the earth, from the blood of Abel the just, even unto the blood of Zacharias the son of Barachias, whom you killed between the temple and the altar. Amen I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered together thy children, as the hen doth gather her chickens under her wings, and thou wouldest not? Behold, your house shall be left to you, desolate.

Matthew 27:25 And the whole people answering, said: His blood be upon us and our children.

Matthew 10:33 But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven.

Mark 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the ancients and by the high priests, and the scribes, and be killed: and after three days rise again.

Matthew 21:42-43 Jesus saith to them: Have you never read in the Scriptures: The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner? By the Lord this has been done; and it is wonderful in our eyes. Therefore I say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and shall be given to a nation yielding the fruits thereof.

John 3:18, 36 He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God. … He that believeth in the Son, hath life everlasting; but he that believeth not the Son, shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

John 14:6 Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son, hath life. He that hath not the Son, hath not life.

The “jews” are condemned and rejected because they reject Jesus! The catholics are the new people of God, not the jews.

Apocalypse 3:12 He that shall overcome, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; and he shall go out no more; and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God, and my new name.

Galatians 6:15-16 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And whosoever shall follow this rule, peace on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Hebrews 9:15 And therefore he is the mediator of the new testament: that by means of his death, for the redemption of those transgressions, which were under the former testament, they that are called may receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

2 Corinthians 5:17 If then any be in Christ a new creature, the old things are passed away, behold all things are made new.

Romans 4:13 For not through the law was the promise to Abraham, or to his seed, that he should be heir of the world; but through the justice of faith.

Hebrews 8:7-8 For if that former had been faultless, there should not indeed a place have been sought for a second. For finding fault with them, he saith: Behold, the days shall come, saith the Lord: and I will perfect unto the house of Israel, and unto the house of Juda, a new testament:

The catholics are the Israel of God.

Lets move on to Matthew. Matthew talks about false prophets that will deceive many and the abomination of desolation and refers to Daniel, for which we have covered. Matthew says that the abomination of desolation can be seen and that it is standing in the Holy place.

Matthew 24:11-15 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall seduce many. And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold. But he that shall persevere to the end, he shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom, shall be preached in the whole world, for a testimony to all nations, and then shall the consummation come. When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.

The Abomination of Desolation, is a false altar, standing over and against the true altar of God. The old testament is very clear on this.

Josue 22:19 But if you think the land of your possession to be unclean, pass over to the land wherein is the tabernacle of the Lord, and dwell among us: only depart not from the Lord, and from our society, by building an altar beside the altar of the Lord our God.

Josue 22:29 God keep us from any such wickedness that we should revolt from the Lord, and leave off following his steps, by building an altar to offer holocausts, and sacrifices, and victims, beside the altar of the Lord our God, which is erected before his tabernacle.

1 Machabees 1:57 On the fifteenth day of the month Casleu, in the hundred and forty-fifth year, king Antiochus set up the abominable idol of desolation upon the altar of God, and they built altars throughout all the cities of Juda round about:

1 Machabees 1:62 And on the five and twentieth day of the month they sacrificed upon the altar of the idol that was over against the altar of God.

 

[truth333]

continued.
St. Jude and St. John gives a subtle prophecy about these usurping perverted thieves.

John 10:1-10 Amen, amen I say to you: He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber. But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out. And when he hath let out his own sheep, he goeth before them: and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice. But a stranger they follow not, but fly from him, because they know not the voice of strangers. This proverb Jesus spoke to them. But they understood not what he spoke to them. Jesus therefore said to them again: Amen, amen I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. All others, as many as have come, are thieves and robbers: and the sheep heard them not. I am the door. By me, if any man enter in, he shall be saved: and he shall go in, and go out, and shall find pastures. The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.

Jude 1:4, 7-8 For certain men are secretly entered in, (who were written of long ago unto this judgment,) ungodly men, turning the grace of our Lord God into riotousness, and denying the only sovereign Ruler, and our Lord Jesus Christ. … As Sodom and Gomorrha, and the neighbouring cities, ... having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, ... In like manner these men also defile the flesh, and despise dominion, and blaspheme majesty.

For those who think it is impossible for a bishop to be the antichrist, just consider Judas Iscariot. He was one of the twelve bishops of the fledgling catholic church. He betrayed and killed Jesus.

Acts 1:16-20 Men, brethren, the scripture must needs be fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who was the leader of them that apprehended Jesus: Who was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. And he indeed hath possessed a field of the reward of iniquity, and being hanged, burst asunder in the midst: and all his bowels gushed out. And it became known to all the inhabitants of Jerusalem: so that the same field was called in their tongue, Haceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. For it is written in the book of Psalms: Let their habitation become desolate, and let there be none to dwell therein. And his bishopric let another take.

And so, as Jesus was persecuted by a false bishop, it will also be in the end times, Jesus will allow His Bride to undergo persecution from a false bishop. Even St. Francis of Assisi predicted that an uncanonically elected man will be raised to the Pontificate.

The Prophecy of St. Francis About a Future Pope
1. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.

2. The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death.

3. Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.

4. There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.

5. Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.

6. Those who preserve in their fervor and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. but the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head, [Christ] these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

7. Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER." [TAKEN FROM Works of the Seraphic Father St. Francis Of Assisi, Washbourne, 1882, pp. 248-250]

Jesus did say that there must be heresies, to separate the wheat from the chaff.

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies: that they also, who are approved, may be made manifest among you.

And so it is, the moment that these deceitful men of the vatican II sect, took control of the Chair of St. Peter and the real estate of the Catholic church, instantaneously, it became the counterfeit catholic church. And so, anyone saying that they left the Catholic church is dead wrong, in fact, they remained in the Catholic church by leaving the counterfeit catholic church. Which means that they were not deceived, they recognized what was going on, and got out!! The very meaning of the Catholic church, is a society of believers, not heretics. The buildings are the place of worship.

Apocalypse 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying: Go out from her, my people; that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.

All men must reject these antipopes of the vatican II sect. All men must reject their heretical teachings. All men must get out of the counterfeit [decoy] catholic church and hold all true teachings of the catholic church and say the Rosary everyday, as Our Lady of Fatima said.

The Catholic Faith is greater than the Holy sacrifice of the Catholic Mass.

1 Kings [1 Samuel] 15:22 And Samuel said: Doth the Lord desire holocausts and victims, and not rather that the voice of the Lord should be obeyed? For obedience is better than sacrifices: and to hearken rather than to offer the fat of rams.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please God. …

Saint Anselm: “If thou wouldst be certain of being in the number of the elect, strive to be one of the few, not of the many. And if thou wouldst be quite sure of thy salvation, strive to be among the fewest of the few… Do not follow the great majority of mankind, but follow those who enter upon the narrow way, who renounce the world, who give themselves to prayer, and who never relax their efforts by day or by night, that they may attain everlasting blessedness.” (Fr. Martin Von Cochem, The Four Last Things, p. 221.)

What is the “Abomination of Desolation”?

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/21_Objections.pdf

 

[Helen]

I just wanted you to know...I am reading along...I only read the first two posts..and will try and do a few more soon.

 

[truth333]

I just wanted you to know...I am reading along...I only read the first two posts..and will try and do a few more soon.

Please read thoughtfully and carefully. All of the posts are one post, I could not fit it into one post. 10,000 characters only allowed for one post.

 

[amadeus]

@truth333

I read the first couple of parts and then only skimmed and finally dropped down to the end as it was too long and detailed to even try to hold of the whole thing. It followed along with your other posting link under:
OUTSIDE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION

I will give you credit for being honest and up front with regard to where you stand. Early on in my non-Catholic associations after I came back to God in 1976 I was confused on just where the Catholics stood on non-Catholics and salvation. I remember from my own times in the late 1940's and 1950' being taught that only members of the Church would be saved. Then from 1976 I was hearing this idea that Protestants in particular could be saved if they did things right. I see that this is not held by your group, but it is held by the current Pope [anti-Pope according to you].

I remember riding the high school bus in 1958 and discussing the illness of Pope Pius XII with a Catholic friend. He actually hoped the Pope would die so he could observe all of the details involved in the selection of a new Pope. He got his hope for Pius XII died and John XXIII came on the scene: The formal beginning of changes [although as you made clear it was already in the works for a long time].

 

[truth333]

[anti-Pope according to you].

I remember riding the high school bus in 1958 and discussing the illness of Pope Pius XII with a Catholic friend. He actually hoped the Pope would die so he could observe all of the details involved in the selection of a new Pope. He got his hope for Pius XII died and John XXIII came on the scene: The formal beginning of changes [although as you made clear it was already in the works for a long time].

By your own words, you are wanting, in being able to see evidence and come to rational conclusions. Its sad for you.

 

[amadeus]

By your own words, you are wanting, in being able to see evidence and come to rational conclusions. Its sad for you.

You are presuming that where you are is correct and that where I am is in error, or to use your word, heresy.

I know [not believe] that God drew me back to Him purposely along that different avenue because He had something else in mind for me. Admittedly I have missed the way at times, but with His help I have continued toward the Light for better than 40 years now. You spoke of God using miracles. My walk with Him is a miracle without a doubt.

Be careful with the judgment you render for if you are wrong, will it not come back to you?
"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." Matt 7:2

 

[Richard_oti]

By your own words, you are wanting, in being able to see evidence and come to rational conclusions. Its sad for you.

Be careful, for by your own words ... For you have offered "evidence" that fails "rational conclusions" due to a limited "perspective" upon the matter.

Woe unto you, and woe unto me also.

 

[truth333]

Be careful, for by your own words ... For you have offered "evidence" that fails "rational conclusions" due to a limited "perspective" upon the matter.

Woe unto you, and woe unto me also.

Liars who hate the truth, like you, say things like 'thats your perspective', 'taken out of context', 'misquote', 'misinterpret' etc.

They never come forth with any real refutation as to what was provided, this is extremely characteristic of liars.

 

[Richard_oti]

Liars who hate the truth, like you, say things like 'thats your perspective', 'taken out of context', 'misquote', 'misinterpret' etc.

They never come forth with any real refutation as to what was provided, this is extremely characteristic of liars.

You mean like your reply above?

 

[truth333]

By the way, I didn't post this thread for liars like you, it would be for those who maybe are looking for the truth regarding what is going on in the world, regarding the things that are happening in Rome and around the world. Its all about saving souls.

Matthew 19:15-18 And it came to pass, that he returned, having received the kingdom: and he commanded his servants to be called, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. And the first came, saying: Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds. And he said to him: Well done, thou good servant, because thou hast been faithful in a little, thou shalt have power over ten cities. And the second came, saying: Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

Matthew 18:12 What think you? If a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them should go astray: doth he not leave the ninety-nine in the mountains, and go to seek that which is gone astray?"

Luke 15:10 So I say to you, there shall be joy before the angels of God upon one sinner doing penance."

 

[BreadOfLife]

Liars who hate the truth, like you, say things like 'thats your perspective', 'taken out of context', 'misquote', 'misinterpret' etc.

They never come forth with any real refutation as to what was provided, this is extremely characteristic of liars.

The refutation to YOUR falsehoods comes from the mouth of our Lord Himself to His Church.
These promises were given to His CHURCH at large - NOT to confused and rebellious individuals like yourself and all the other racist sedevacantists from your cult:

Matt 16:18-19
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:17-18
If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.
Amen, I say to you, whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 16:12-15
“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.
He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Everything that the Father has is MINE; for this reason I told you that he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.

John 20:21-23
Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”

Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

You're just another pathetic little anti-Catholic who is outgunned by Scripture and history . . .

 

[bark of peter]

The refutation to YOUR falsehoods comes from the mouth of our Lord Himself to His Church.
These promises were given to His CHURCH at large - NOT to confused and rebellious individuals like yourself and all the other racist sedevacantists from your cult:

Matt 16:18-19
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.
I will give YOU the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 18:17-18
If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.
Amen, I say to you, whatever YOU bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

John 16:12-15
“I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now.
But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to ALL truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to YOU the things that are coming.
He will glorify me, because he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.
Everything that the Father has is MINE; for this reason I told you that he will TAKE from what is MINE and declare it to YOU.

John 20:21-23
Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins YOU FORGIVE are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU RETAIN are retained.”

Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

You're just another pathetic little anti-Catholic who is outgunned by Scripture and history . . .

Hi, I read this thread and your quotes of scripture do not refute the conditionality of God's perpetual promise of succession of a man on His Throne. Its very clear. God keeps His promise but if the people revolt, He throws them out, because they broke their promise to God.

3 kings 9:5-7 I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Israel for ever, as I promised David thy father, saying: There shall not fail a man of thy race upon the throne of Israel. But if you and your children revolting shall turn away from following me, and will not keep my commandments, and my ceremonies, which I have set before you, but will go and worship strange gods, and adore them: I will take away Israel from the face of the land which I have given them; and the temple which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast out of my sight; ...

Even the Haydock Bible makes it very clear.

HAYDOCK CATHOLIC BIBLE COMMENTARY
. 7. Take away, by death or exile. (Haydock) --- Sight. God is disposed to grant favours to those who approach his temples with piety. If they indulge their passions, he will suffer these holy places to be profaned, as a dreadful warning of his displeasure. The Jews enjoyed prosperity while they continued faithful. On their revolt, the ark was taken, the temple pillaged by Sesac, burnt by Nabuchodonosor, profaned by Antiochus, and destroyed by the Romans. (Calmet)

Even 2 Paralipomenon says that God's name, eyes, and heart may remain there perpetually.

2 Paralipomenon 7:16 For I have chosen, and have sanctified this place, that my name may be there for ever, and my eyes and my heart may remain there perpetually.

The text is very clear. Perpetual succession was conditional.

Well, from what I can see, with the idolatry, sexual perversions i.e. homosexuality and other outrageous things that are coming from Rome and around the world, I would say that God has cast out His church by deception, as the thread describes.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hi, I read this thread and your quotes of scripture do not refute the conditionality of God's perpetual promise of succession of a man on His Throne. Its very clear. God keeps His promise but if the people revolt, He throws them out, because they broke their promise to God.

3 kings 9:5-7 I will establish the throne of thy kingdom over Israel for ever, as I promised David thy father, saying: There shall not fail a man of thy race upon the throne of Israel. But if you and your children revolting shall turn away from following me, and will not keep my commandments, and my ceremonies, which I have set before you, but will go and worship strange gods, and adore them: I will take away Israel from the face of the land which I have given them; and the temple which I have sanctified to my name, I will cast out of my sight; ...

Even the Haydock Bible makes it very clear.

HAYDOCK CATHOLIC BIBLE COMMENTARY
. 7. Take away, by death or exile. (Haydock) --- Sight. God is disposed to grant favours to those who approach his temples with piety. If they indulge their passions, he will suffer these holy places to be profaned, as a dreadful warning of his displeasure. The Jews enjoyed prosperity while they continued faithful. On their revolt, the ark was taken, the temple pillaged by Sesac, burnt by Nabuchodonosor, profaned by Antiochus, and destroyed by the Romans. (Calmet)

Even 2 Paralipomenon says that God's name, eyes, and heart may remain there perpetually.

2 Paralipomenon 7:16 For I have chosen, and have sanctified this place, that my name may be there for ever, and my eyes and my heart may remain there perpetually.

The text is very clear. Perpetual succession was conditional.

Well, from what I can see, with the idolatry, sexual perversions i.e. homosexuality and other outrageous things that are coming from Rome and around the world, I would say that God has cast out His church by deception, as the thread describes.

And all of these warnings pertained to the Old Covenant. The New Covenant is Christ.

Besides - what YOU have just said makes Jesus a liar when He told Peter that the Gate of Hell would not prevail against His Church.

As for the "idolatry" you speak of - explain.
The Catholic Church does not now nor has it ever taught idolatry.

As for the "sexual perversion" - this has ALWAYS existed in Christ's Church and exists in every denomination of Protestantism. 1 Cor. 5 is all about a case of an incestuous relationship involving members of the Church at Corinth.

 

[bark of peter]

"And all of these warnings pertained to the Old Covenant. The New Covenant is Christ."

R: No, actually the old testament was a prophecy for things that would happen again, in the new testament i.e. Prophecy of Jeremias, Prophecy of Isaias, etc. The Davidic Monarchy, was a sacerdotal monarchy and it is the same with the Catholic church, a sacerdotal monarchy.

Genesis 14:18 But Melchisedech the king of Salem, bringing forth bread and wine, for he was the priest of the most high God, …

Isaias 9:6-7 For a CHILD IS BORN to us, and a son is given to us, and the government is upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called, Wonderful, Counsellor, God the Mighty, the Father of the world to come, the Prince of Peace. [7] His empire shall be multiplied, and there shall be no end of peace: he shall sit upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom; ...

Hebrews 7:11-17 If then perfection was by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchisedech, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?" For the priesthood being translated, it is necessary that a translation also be made of the law. For he, of whom these things are spoken, is of another tribe, of which no one attended on the altar. For it is evident that our Lord sprung out of Juda: in which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priests. And it is yet far more evident: if according to the similitude of Melchisedech there ariseth another priest, Who is made not according to the law of a carnal commandment, but according to the power of an indissoluble life: For he testifieth: Thou art a priest for ever, according to the order of Melchisedech.

"Besides - what YOU have just said makes Jesus a liar when He told Peter that the Gate of Hell would not prevail against His Church."

R: No, actually it does to make Jesus a liar. Jesus is faithful, He will punish. God will cast out His church [temple] because the people broke their promise. You are completely ignoring, what has already occurred, in favor of your own personal ideas.

HAYDOCK CATHOLIC BIBLE COMMENTARY
. 7. Take away, by death or exile. (Haydock) --- Sight. God is disposed to grant favours to those who approach his temples with piety. If they indulge their passions, he will suffer these holy places to be profaned, as a dreadful warning of his displeasure. The Jews enjoyed prosperity while they continued faithful. On their revolt, the ark was taken, the temple pillaged by Sesac, burnt by Nabuchodonosor, profaned by Antiochus, and destroyed by the Romans. (Calmet)

The gates of hell, refer to heresies, lies. The Catholic faith is found in a faithful remnant, always.

"As for the "idolatry" you speak of - explain.
The Catholic Church does not now nor has it ever taught idolatry."

R: Probably the greatest act of idolatry and apostasy, was the Assisi Prayer Day For Peace in 1986, regarding 'john paul II'. This happened two other times also, with 'Benedict XVI'. This by far, is not a secret!

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, Pt. I-II, Q. 103., A. 4: “All ceremonies are professions of faith, in which the interior worship of God consists. Now man can make profession of his inward faith, by deeds as well as by words: and in either profession, if he make a false declaration, he sins mortally.”

The vatican II sect teaches Nostra Aetate #4, that the 'jews' are not rejected and that the bible or the Catholic church makes no mention of it. This is teaching and promoting false religions, which is idolatry and apostasy. I don't think that you read the thread all the way through. Or you prefer the doctrines of men?

"As for the "sexual perversion" -* this has ALWAYS existed in Christ's Church* and exists in every denomination of Protestantism. 1 Cor. 5 is all about a case of an incestuous relationship involving members of the Church at Corinth."

R: No, that is false and a blasphemy. The Catholic church is immaculate and pure. The Catholic church is a society of believers. By the way, here is the title of the chapter that you cite.

"He **excommunicates** the incestuous adulterer and admonishes them to purge out the old leaven."

St. Paul speaks about those outside the Catholic church, which means by their action, they are already judged.

Also, read Romans ch. 1. Homosexuality is a punishment for idolatry and apostasy. The worship of man as god. Believing in the doctrines of man.

If you don't except this as the truth, then you cannot be helped.

Prophecy of Isaias 5:20 Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.