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There is some confusion about "duel natures"..

Depending on your denominational affiliation, you could be taught that the Christian has 2 natures.....the old and the new, or you could be taught that there is no "duel nature", or you might be taught something in between.

So, lets look at it, and find the Light.

First,... there is the Adamic nature that is the fallen nature that is the nature of the devil.
This nature is rebellious, deceitful, prideful, and lustful.
We were all this nature before we were born again..
The Unbelievers, who are all children of the devil, and Jesus says of them, "the lust of your Father you will do"......
That is who they are, and that is why they do what they do and here is where they exist.. John 3:36
This adamic nature naturally rejects Jesus, as that is the Devil's nature.
He rejects Christ and so do his children, who are all the unbelievers.

Now, when we are born again, this is a Spiritual event...its a BIRTH.
Our Spirit is birthed INTO God's Spirit, and we become "One with God and Christ", = Spiritually., as God is A Spirit, and we are now a born again SPIRIT.
And as this, we are become : "As Jesus IS, so are the born again in this world".
Now see that?
That is who you are, if you are born again, That is the real you.. And that is an eternal situation that you can't change. See, you didnt cause your spiritual birth, and you can't end a Spiritual birth, so, when you find a deceiver telling you that you can lose your salvation, then just rest assured that this is impossible, as you can not stop being born again INTO God's Spirit.
Its done, because GOD DID IT and God Completed it.
Philippians 1:6

Now, after we are born again... Paul says we are to "reckon our old man dead"....and we are to understand that our old man is "crucified with Christ".....
Now that is the Satanic or Fallen or Adamic nature...that is crucified.
We are to esteem it to be dead, because this "old man" is crucified with Christ.
This is our "flesh". This is where lust lives and wrong desires are birthed.

Now, what you have become, (only if you are born again and not just water baptized) , is a "new creation IN Christ".
Notice : "IN".
See that? That is where you live now, the real you, the born again you.....You are "IN Christ".
And who is Christ Jesus?
He is God. And so you are "in God" as you are now found "IN Christ".... So that is once again.. "ONE with God and CHRIST"......
See that?

That is who you are now, if you are BORN AGAIN. And that is who you will remain for as long as God lives..

Now if you study Colossians Chapter 2, you will discover how you were birthed into God's Spirit.
What happened is that God had to separate your born again Spirit from that old Satanic fallen nature, by birthing you into His own Spirit, as a "new creation , in Christ".
Now, you are not being taught this in your Church, so, its good that you are reading it here, so that you can understand what happened to you, when you became a born again = "new Creation"..."IN Christ".

Colossians says that this is the "operation of God"..... Saint, its a type of spiritual surgery, not done with hands, whereby God circumcised you APART, .... from your flesh..
So, God birthed you as the new Creation, and separated you FROM your old man, or that Satanic, Adamic, Fallen nature.
Now do you see those 2?
One is no longer you, and that is the sinner, the fallen, the satanic, the damned, the Adamic nature. And that is why Paul tells you to see it, = to "reckon it as DEAD".
And why is that?
Because that is how God sees it at all times and always... He sees your old man, you fallen nature, your Satanic nature, your Adamic nature = as DEAD.... Crucified with Christ.
And you are told to do this also,... and if you dont, then you will exit in it, in your mind, and that allows the dominion of the Law to cause your "flesh" to want to sin, and you will not be able to stop sinning.
So, you have to get into the right BELIEF, the right MIND...= concerning who you really are, and in that mind, in that right believing, you discover God's Grace and the power of Christ that will deliver you from the sinning and confessing situation.

The born again, are to perceive themselves this way, MENTALLY, at all times.... because it is true, and that is the right mind, the renewed mind.
So, when you don't agree with this truth, then you are existing mentally in the soul realm only, and in that mind, you won't find Light, you wont exist in God's Grace, yet, you are born again.
So, There is the "mind of the flesh", vs, " the mind of Christ".
You are in one or the other.., Saint.
To "renew your mind" is to keep yourself out of the Carnal mind, which is the mind of the Flesh.
And if you don't then you will sin, and believe that you can lose your salvation.

Listen.
You muct come to understand that there is the "incorruptible" part of us, that can't sin...
= the born again Spirit, that is the REAL YOU.... that has been "circumcised" from the Flesh, according to Colossians.
So that is our Born again Spirit which has been parted, separated, and circumcised FROM the "old man".

Now here is what happens to you if you do not come into mental agreement with who you are "in Christ", as God always evaluates you.

There is this spiritual situation called the "dominion of the law"....and there is the fact that ""the power of sin...is the LAW".
So...If you are trying to keep yourself saved by commandment keeping and Law keeping and enduring, and lifestyle, and having faith in faith.... then the power of the Law will empower you to sin more.
And that is how you ruin your Christianity for life.
You do it by "falling from Grace", which is what we are talking about.... and that simply means to become convinced that you can lose your salvation. And if you have that mind, then Paul says you are "bewitched, and in the Flesh".
And once you have entered and are trapped inside that wrong mind, then Grace has no more ability to empower you to walk in the Spirit, and that is why you confess and sin, and sin, and confess, and can't ever stop.

So.... that situation in the mind that is subverting your faith, is a stronghold.
And you have to tear it down, you have to overcome it, or you will continue to sin and confess and repent, = repeat.
See,....wrong believing allows the Law's dominion to take over and produces a sinning and repenting and confessing, lifestyle, as this person's "christianity".
Is this you?
If it is, then you will live in that, till you deal with that theological stronghold (wrong believing) that has ruined/corrupted your Faith.
Most never come to the light.. who have entered that spiritual darkness.
Most stay there for the rest of their life, arguing endlessly that you are supposed to sin and confess and you will live inside your 1-3 verses that you think disproves the entire theology of Paul who wrote most of the New Testament.

So, its always true that you can be "double minded", and once you become this regarding your faith, then "sin consciousness" is then empowered by the Law's dominion and you end up powerless to stop sinning, = as the law's dominion will keep activating your sin consciousness that will cause you to keep doing it.
So, until you deal with the theological stronghold darkness that is causing you to be a confessing and repenting believer, you will stay there.
 
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There is some confusion about "duel natures"..

Depending on your denominational affiliation, you could be taught that the Christian has 2 natures.....the old and the new, or you could be taught that there is no "duel nature", or you might be taught something in between.

So, lets look at it, and find the Light.

First,... there is the Adamic nature that is the fallen nature that is the nature of the devil.
This nature is rebellious, deceitful, prideful, and lustful.
We were all this nature before we were born again..
The Unbelievers, who are all children of the devil, and Jesus says of them, "the lust of your Father you will do"......
That is who they are, and that is why they do what they do and here is where they exist.. John 3:36
This adamic nature naturally rejects Jesus, as that is the Devil's nature.
He rejects Christ and so do his children, who are all the unbelievers.

Now, when we are born again, this is a Spiritual event...its a BIRTH.
Our Spirit is birthed INTO God's Spirit, and we become "One with God and Christ", = Spiritually., as God is A Spirit, and we are now a born again SPIRIT.
And as this, we are become : "As Jesus IS, so are the born again in this world".
Now see that?
That is who you are, if you are born again, That is the real you.. And that is an eternal situation that you can't change. See, you didnt cause your spiritual birth, and you can't end a Spiritual birth, so, when you find a deceiver telling you that you can lose your salvation, then just rest assured that this is impossible, as you can not stop being born again INTO God's Spirit.
Its done, because GOD DID IT and God Completed it.
Philippians 1:6

Now, after we are born again... Paul says we are to "reckon our old man dead"....and we are to understand that our old man is "crucified with Christ".....
Now that is the Satanic or Fallen or Adamic nature...that is crucified.
We are to esteem it to be dead, because this "old man" is crucified with Christ.
This is our "flesh". This is where lust lives and wrong desires are birthed.

Now, what you have become, (only if you are born again and not just water baptized) , is a "new creation IN Christ".
Notice : "IN".
See that? That is where you live now, the real you, the born again you.....You are "IN Christ".
And who is Christ Jesus?
He is God. And so you are "in God" as you are now found "IN Christ".... So that is once again.. "ONE with God and CHRIST"......
See that?

That is who you are now, if you are BORN AGAIN. And that is who you will remain for as long as God lives..

Now if you study Colossians Chapter 2, you will discover how you were birthed into God's Spirit.
What happened is that God had to separate your born again Spirit from that old Satanic fallen nature, by birthing you into His own Spirit, as a "new creation , in Christ".
Now, you are not being taught this in your Church, so, its good that you are reading it here, so that you can understand what happened to you, when you became a born again = "new Creation"..."IN Christ".

Colossians says that this is the "operation of God"..... Saint, its a type of spiritual surgery, not done with hands, whereby God circumcised you APART, .... from your flesh..
So, God birthed you as the new Creation, and separated you FROM your old man, or that Satanic, Adamic, Fallen nature.
Now do you see those 2?
One is no longer you, and that is the sinner, the fallen, the satanic, the damned, the Adamic nature. And that is why Paul tells you to see it, = to "reckon it as DEAD".
And why is that?
Because that is how God sees it at all times and always... He sees your old man, you fallen nature, your Satanic nature, your Adamic nature = as DEAD.... Crucified with Christ.
And you are told to do this also,... and if you dont, then you will exit in it, in your mind, and that allows the dominion of the Law to cause your "flesh" to want to sin, and you will not be able to stop sinning.
So, you have to get into the right BELIEF, the right MIND...= concerning who you really are, and in that mind, in that right believing, you discover God's Grace and the power of Christ that will deliver you from the sinning and confessing situation.

The born again, are to perceive themselves this way, MENTALLY, at all times.... because it is true, and that is the right mind, the renewed mind.
So, when you don't agree with this truth, then you are existing mentally in the soul realm only, and in that mind, you won't find Light, you wont exist in God's Grace, yet, you are born again.
So, There is the "mind of the flesh", vs, " the mind of Christ".
You are in one or the other.., Saint.
To "renew your mind" is to keep yourself out of the Carnal mind, which is the mind of the Flesh.
And if you don't then you will sin, and believe that you can lose your salvation.

Listen.
You muct come to understand that there is the "incorruptible" part of us, that can't sin...
= the born again Spirit, that is the REAL YOU.... that has been "circumcised" from the Flesh, according to Colossians.
So that is our Born again Spirit which has been parted, separated, and circumcised FROM the "old man".

Now here is what happens to you if you do not come into mental agreement with who you are "in Christ", as God always evaluates you.

There is this spiritual situation called the "dominion of the law"....and there is the fact that ""the power of sin...is the LAW".
So...If you are trying to keep yourself saved by commandment keeping and Law keeping and enduring, and lifestyle, and having faith in faith.... then the power of the Law will empower you to sin more.
And that is how you ruin your Christianity for life.
You do it by "falling from Grace", which is what we are talking about.... and that simply means to become convinced that you can lose your salvation. And if you have that mind, then Paul says you are "bewitched, and in the Flesh".
And once you have entered and are trapped inside that wrong mind, then Grace has no more ability to empower you to walk in the Spirit, and that is why you confess and sin, and sin, and confess, and can't ever stop.

So.... that situation in the mind that is subverting your faith, is a stronghold.
And you have to tear it down, you have to overcome it, or you will continue to sin and confess and repent, = repeat.
See,....wrong believing allows the Law's dominion to take over and produces a sinning and repenting and confessing, lifestyle, as this person's "christianity".
Is this you?
If it is, then you will live in that, till you deal with that theological stronghold (wrong believing) that has ruined/corrupted your Faith.
Most never come to the light.. who have entered that spiritual darkness.
Most stay there for the rest of their life, arguing endlessly that you are supposed to sin and confess and you will live inside your 1-3 verses that you think disproves the entire theology of Paul who wrote most of the New Testament.

So, its always true that you can be "double minded", and once you become this regarding your faith, then "sin consciousness" is then empowered by the Law's dominion and you end up powerless to stop sinning, = as the law's dominion will keep activating your sin consciousness that will cause you to keep doing it.
So, until you deal with the theological stronghold darkness that is causing you to be a confessing and repenting believer, you will stay there.
There’s one scripture that you really must consider in order to understand this topic. Paul said in Gal 5:16– “But I say walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.” This means that we must live submitted to and empowered by the Holy Spirit! This is a choice we have to make by grace through faith—every day, every moment!
 
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There’s one scripture that you really must consider in order to understand this topic. Paul said in Gal 5:16– “But I say walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.” This means that we must live submitted to and empowered by the Holy Spirit! This is a choice we have to make by grace through faith—every day, every moment!

Lets look at that verse, in this Light.

""""If you walk in the Spirit..""""

So, what is the Spirit? The Spirit is the UNDERSTANDING.

See, we are already IN the Spirit, as we are "One with God and Christ".....so, we can't be more IN The Spirit, than to be "in Christ".
So, the 'walking" =is the thing.
This is the "working out your salvation" .....situation.

See, Salvation is ALWAYS ours, as the Kingdom of God is always within us...and we are seated in heavenly places in Christ, right now.
But down here, we have to learn how to BELIEVE correctly, so that we operate within the Kingdom of GOD, according to how it functions spiritually.
So, when we understand how to do that, when we believe correctly about Grace and about Justification and about "the gift of Righteousness", and how Jesus is become OUR Sanctification and Redemption and ETERNAL LIFE..... then in this right believing we are now WALKING IN the Spirit that we already exist within, by being born again into it.
 

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Lets look at that verse, in this Light.

""""If you walk in the Spirit..""""

So, what is the Spirit? The Spirit is the UNDERSTANDING.

See, we are already IN the Spirit, as we are "One with God and Christ".....so, we can't be more IN The Spirit, than to be "in Christ".
So, the 'walking" =is the thing.
This is the "working out your salvation" .....situation.

See, Salvation is ALWAYS ours, as the Kingdom of God is always within us...and we are seated in heavenly places in Christ, right now.
But down here, we have to learn how to BELIEVE correctly, so that we operate within the Kingdom of GOD, according to how it functions spiritually.
So, when we understand how to do that, when we believe correctly about Grace and about Justification and about "the gift of Righteousness", and how Jesus is become OUR Sanctification and Redemption and ETERNAL LIFE..... then in this right believing we are now WALKING IN the Spirit that we already exist within, by being born again into it.
The Spirit is the Holy Spirit who indwells all believers. So, walking by the Spirit means LIVING according to the Holy Spirit’s control.
 

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The Spirit is the Holy Spirit who indwells all believers. So, walking by the Spirit means LIVING according to the Holy Spirit’s control.

Not "walking by"..
That is not a correct translation.....Saint.
"walking IN">...is the correct translation..
So, we are already IN Christ....so, we can't be more IN the Spirit.
But we can believe wrong, and that darkens our walk within the Spirit, where we exist.

Now, what you are describing is Paul's utter and absolute submission to God.
"it is not i who live, but Christ who lives in me"....and that is what you are defining.
However, to walk IN the Spirit, is to agree with the rules that exist within the Kingdom of God.
And the #1 rule is God's GRACE .

See we are under the dominion of Grace.
And most believers have not submitted to this dominion ,and that is why they talk about losing salvation, and doing good works, and holding unto faith, as their effort to do, what only God's Grace can provide.
 

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Not "walking by"..
That is not a correct translation.....Saint.
"walking IN">...is the correct translation..
So, we are already IN Christ....so, we can't be more IN the Spirit.
But we can believe wrong, and that darkens our walk within the Spirit, where we exist.

Now, what you are describing is Paul's utter and absolute submission to God.
"it is not i who live, but Christ who lives in me"....and that is what you are defining.
However, to walk IN the Spirit, is to agree with the rules that exist within the Kingdom of God.
And the #1 rule is God's GRACE .

See we are under the dominion of Grace.
And most believers have not submitted to this dominion ,and that is why they talk about losing salvation, and doing good works, and holding unto faith, as their effort to do, what only God's Grace can provide.

I think you’re splitting hairs. Most of the translations of Galatians 5:16 say “by the Spirit.” Christ is in us, and we are in Christ. The Holy Spirit dwells in us, and we are to submit to His control. Don’t know what else to say. :(
 

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I think you’re splitting hairs. Most of the translations of Galatians 5:16 say “by the Spirit.” Christ is in us, and we are in Christ. The Holy Spirit dwells in us, and we are to submit to His control. Don’t know what else to say. :(

Walking in the spirit has nothing to do with being obedient to the unction of the HS.

Walking in the Spirit, is to have the correct understanding of what it means to walk in the Spirit.
Its not about being led, but its all about having the correct MIND of Christ, vs, the carnal mind.
 

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Walking in the spirit has nothing to do with being obedient to the unction of the HS.

Walking in the Spirit, is to have the correct understanding of what it means to walk in the Spirit.
Its not about being led, but its all about having the correct MIND of Christ, vs, the carnal mind.

Having the mind of Christ allows us to walk by the Spirit--to walk in obedience to what He tells us.
 

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Having the mind of Christ allows us to walk by the Spirit--to walk in obedience to what He tells us.

Having the mind of Christ is how you walk in the Spirit.
Being obedient to the HS, is discipleship.
They are connected, but they are not the same thing.

The will of God is that everyone believe on Jesus....but not everyone that has been born again, is walking in the Spirit.
Many are obedient to the "present your body a living sacrifice", yet, they are not walking in the Spirit, as to walk in the Spirit is not what you do, its how you BELIEVE.