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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.
 

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What does your conscience tell you about having sex before marriage? I bet it's telling you it's a bad idea and that you shouldn't do it. Since we live in our flesh that is weak and so prone to falling into sin, we always try to justify the wants and desires of our flesh. The truth is, those who commit sexual immorality will not inherit the kingdom of God. So we must abstain from it and have self control. Not like the gentiles who don't know God. This is an area that I struggle with too so you are not alone. Many people struggling with the same temptations so don't think that this is a problem that only you are having. Many have this same problem but are too ashamed to admit it.

The flesh is weak, but the Spirit is willing. The question is, do you fight this sin or do you just fall to your lust and complain about it? Do you strive for holiness out of self effort or do you put the deeds of the body to death through the Spirit of Christ that now lives inside of you if you truly have come to know Him?
 

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Just great. Been doing so well for so long and now my mind is on sex because of this thread. Thanks a lot. :lol:
 

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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.

Who needs anyone to tell you, it's in the Book. Join yourself to someone and see how easy it isn't to get out of the trap. One flesh is one flesh. Souls are joined and that's the story. Reap the "benefits" of a fling. Condemnation for pleasure, self-induced condemnation for sure, is one good way to wreck a tight time with God. We are already messed up, why make it worse.?

Yielding your bodily members unto righteousness, and not giving in to the flesh, is exactly that--yielding. Sometimes the "traffic" is heavy, and even while trying to yield, we end up in an accident. No condemnation to them which are the called, and chosen of God. He's not keeping a tally, but He is expecting you to keep on yielding to the right of way. The way of the Spirit. He's making a new car, He can repair the damages, He's got an adgenda, and you're it. Faithful is He Who has called you out, and separated you unto Himself. He will never leave or forsake His Body.

Acknowledge who you really are, be honest and true with Him, and let the pieces fall where they may. Where sin abounds, grace superabounds. What was once tasty and illicit will become more and more unpalatable in the light of the grace and mercy and fellowship of a living God Who knows our every flaw and weakness, but chose us regardless, to show forth His greatness and power.
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I know this is a very sensative topic but still lets look at what scripture says on the matter.

Matthew 5:28 based on this practically evryone is guilty of adultry including me

Galatians 5:16 the key here is walk in the holy spirits truth not carnal lust

James 1:14 evryone is tempted by there own lust

James 1:15 then that lust leads to sin then death.

1st John 2:16 its important to note that in that verse lust as well as evrything that goes against the father is of the world. You see the world itself is naturally evil and its natural to seek either rather than good in the worlds eyes. However in the fathers eyes its an abomination whats going on in our modern society.

1st John 2:17 just remember this the world will pass away and evrything in it that goes against the father but as the verse says he who does the will of our father lives forever.

Keep on the right path with god freind. Keep pure and clean spiritually and if you dont know where to turn simply send me a PM or open the word of god.

God bless :)
 

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Judd, for when you DO get married: Sexual immoralities include things even in marriage. There are rules: we are not to engage in things "contrary" to it's natural use. This means no anal sex and no oral sex. Obviously no kinky stuff like S & M, threesomes, etc. Sex must be holy within a marriage.
 

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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.


You have to think of sex in the way God thinks of sex. Sex is not a bad thing...its in fact very good and the desire for sexual relations was put into us by God himself.

Firstly, what was its purpose (apart from pleasure)? To bring forth children. Sex was the means by which Adam and Eve were able to fulfill their mandate to 'fill the earth'

Secondly, the mandate to bring forth those children was given to a married couple, Adam & Eve. This is the only way sexual desire can properly be acted upon and approved by God....if its done under the marriage arrangement. So we know that anything besides that is not approved by God. If the sex organs are used in any way contrary to Gods purpose for them, then it should be considered in the context of 'fornication'


You could either get married in order to fulfill your sexual desire...and this is not wrong because the apostle Paul told young christians that if they had such desire, they should marry.
1Corinthians 7:36 "But if anyone thinks he is behaving improperly toward his virginity, if that is past the bloom of youth, and this is the way it should take place, let him do what he wants; he does not sin. Let them marry. 37 But if anyone stands settled in his heart, having no necessity, but has authority over his own will and has made this decision in his own heart, to keep his own virginity, he will do well. 38 Consequently he also that gives his virginity in marriage does well..."


If you dont want to marry, then you need to get control of your 'vessel' before your vessel gets control of you and you become a slave to it.
 

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First of all, here is the qualification for Salvation:John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth on Him should have everlasting life.If a person IS a true Christian, they would NEVER truly turn from Christ, ever. It would be impossible having known His Love.Secondly, So what is “fornication”?1st Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

STRONG'S Concordance on "fornication": http://www.htmlbible.com/#strongs/Bible4202 - porneuo 4203; harlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively, idolatry:--fornication.4203 - from pornh - porne 4204; to act the harlot, i.e. (literally) indulge unlawful lust (of either sex), or (figuratively) practise idolatry:--commit (fornication). 4204 - feminine of pornoV - pornos 4205; a strumpet; figuratively, an idolater:--harlot, whore.4205 - from pernemi (to sell; akin to the base of 4097); a (male) prostitute (as venal), i.e. (by analogy) a debauchee (libertine):--fornicator, whoremonger.


This may not be taken well by some, however, according to my humble research and studying of Scripture done for the last 35 yrs.,"fornication" would seem to lend itself to be a sexual act that is against the nature which it was created for. According to Scripture, the intent of the act was for a man and a woman to join together as one and reproduce and to keep them bonded together. This includes all that Scripture calls harlotry, adultery, incest, idolatry, prostitute, and whoremonger. So if you are participating in one of these, you are fornicating.Hebrew law indicated that even a woman who was betrothed was under the same standards as being married and was considered "taken".

Virginity was and still is considered a sacred gift to one's chosen mate for life and is considered a valued prize throughout Scripture as it should also still be. But what is “virginity”? The following is a study relating to this topic. These are not my words but God’s Words:
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel [that is] a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; 5291 Damsel (5288); a girl (from infancy to adolescence):--damsel, maid(-en), young (woman).

5288 Damsel (concretely) a boy (as active), from the age of infancy to adolescence; by implication, a servant; also (by interch. of sex), a girl (of similar latitude in age):--babe, boy, child, damsel (from the margin), lad, servant, young (man).1330 Virgin: feminine passive participle of an unused root meaning to separate; a virgin (from her privacy); sometimes (by continuation) a bride; also (figuratively) a city or state:--maid, virgin.

781 Betrothed: to engage for matrimony:--betroth, espouse.
Luke 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.3933 Virgin: of unknown origin; a maiden; by implication, an unmarried daughter:--virgin.3423 Espoused: to give a souvenir (engagement present), i.e. betroth:--espouse.Luke 8:51 And when he came into the house, he suffered no man to go in save Peter, and James, and John, and the father and the mother of the maiden.

3816 Maiden: a boy (as often beaten with impunity), or (by analogy), a girl, and (genitive case) a child; specially, a slave or servant (especially a minister to a king; and by eminence to God):--child, maid(-en), (man) servant, son, young man.Bear with me. According to these verses/definitions, a woman who is “betrothed/espoused” and has relations with a different man, then she is committing “adultry”. That is the only way an unmarried woman can commit adultry and this is what Joseph was assuming of Mary because she was pregnant and he knew it was not by him. That was before the Angel explained to him what was the truth.

Anyone who has sex for "sport",meaning arbitrarilly and without conscience, borders on narcissism and has no common sense. That person is committing a gross sin IMHO. That is going against what is the natural purpose for sex and much harm comes from such activity. It is a main factor for society's breakdown of morals and values and should not be tolerated as it is. 20 yrs. ago, it was still shameful to be pregnant outside of marriage and/or to cheat on one's spouse. These situations cause irreparable harm to many people and not just the ones involved. The psychological damage done can be permanent and at the very least, character altering for all victims left in the wake. Physically, the spread of diseases transmitted sexually is absurd and appalling.A sexual relationship is designed to bond with the person that you have chosen to live the rest of your life with and create a family.

Therefore, one should ONLY have relations with that person as that person is the one you love and make vows to. Therefore, sex for "sport" is completely OUT.To completely understand sexual relations and their purpose, one must also understand what the definition of "Marriage" is, exactly.
Mat 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king , which made a marriage for his son, STRONG'S on "marriage":1062 - nuptials:--marriage, wedding.This is hardly helpful. So,,,,let's check man's definition.

From Wikipedia: "Christians regard the foundational principle of the lifelong union of a man and a woman to have been first articulated biblically in the Book of Genesis (Genesis 2:24)"
Genesis 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

Matt 19:5, Mark 10:7, 1st Cor 6:16, Eph 5:31
STRONG'S on "one":258 - to unify, i.e. (figuratively) collect (one's thoughts):--go one way or other.259 - a numeral from ''achad' (258); properly, united,together, Marriage is not just a piece of paper. It is a vow and bond between a man and a woman before God. That is what counts. It is sacred and should never be taken lightly. Scripture is very clear on setting the examples as God has laid out for us to follow.
 

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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.

Why don't you just go out and get a wife? Do you want occasional sex where you might catch a disease or end up paying child support for a baby that you can't see, all the while rightfully feeling weak, and having your soul chipped away and your heart calloused? Or, do you want share a bed every night with a girl who respects you, and who you respect, and who you feel good and safe with?
 

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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand the answer to this one.

If you're not married, DON'T DO IT.

If you want a list of acts, then I suggest a trip to your local adult book store.
Asking for such things here is inappropriate.

If you have powerful desires I suggest the following:
1. strenuous physical activity followed by a cold shower
2. Do not be alone with yourself or another person. Work and travel in groups.
3. Fast. (refrain from eating) The denial of the desire to eat has a strong mental connection with sexual restraint.
Try it, you'll discover something about yourself you never knew.
4. More strenuous physical activity followed by another cold shower


The body must be tamed in order for constructive activities to commence. This is an accepted axiom in ALL religions.
It is difficult to accept, given today's hedonistic American culture.

Inordinate sexual activty is an aberration of the marketing ploys of American culture.

Avoid the trap.
 

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please can anyone tell me about sexual immoralities? Also, please I need help, my flesh is weak, I got the desires to have sex but i don't want to and i am not married. it's so disturbing. what do you guys think about sex before marriage? I need help please.

Sex is not a sin.

Sex is not the problem.

Sex outside of marriage is the issue.

Your focus should be towards whether you should be looking for a good marriage partner. Then try to find one just right for you. Not always easy to do. If you rush into it , a later divorce makes adultery look tame. A rush into marriage for sexual relief can cause more problems than sexual relief outside of marriage. Both are wrong of course but the old fashioned marriage to the right person is still the ultimate.

Pray for a perfect partner and then keep your eyes open. Sometimes that works. Some girl will be praying for the same thing.

I am not qualified to give you advice Judd. In my younger years my marriage failed and I committed adultery. But if I could do it all over again I would make marriage work. No question about it.

Best wishes in everything you do Judd.

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Judd, for when you DO get married: Sexual immoralities include things even in marriage. There are rules: we are not to engage in things "contrary" to it's natural use. This means no anal sex and no oral sex. Obviously no kinky stuff like S & M, threesomes, etc. Sex must be holy within a marriage.

You mention "oral sex". Could I ask why that is wrong? I understand why anal sex and 3 somes etc. are wrong, but I don't quit see the connection to the "oral" aspect. (Mind you, I'm not involved with it, in fact i'm not even married :p, but just curious...)
 

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You mention "oral sex". Could I ask why that is wrong? I understand why anal sex and 3 somes etc. are wrong, but I don't quit see the connection to the "oral" aspect. (Mind you, I'm not involved with it, in fact i'm not even married :p, but just curious...)

I suggest an appointment with your local physician to discuss the medical implications of these specific issues.

There are very good physical reasons to abstain from these acts as well as spiritual ones.

Those who enjoy sexually aberrant behaviour seldom consider the consequences of what they are doing, neither will they listen to reasoned argument until its too late.

But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Num 32:23

This is not a threat, its a promise.
Your sin WILL find you out and it WILL destroy you.
It is as certain as gravity and sure as the sunrise tomorrow morning.

You are being counseled here by those who know the dangers. Some are called PRUD who refrain from sexual immorality, but did you know that the root of the word PRUD is prudent, which referrs to wise self-restraint?

Repent and seek the Kingdom of God.

Inordinate sexual activty is an aberration of the marketing ploys of American culture.

Avoid the trap.
 

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I usually don't play this card much because it opens the flood gates but...what goes on in the privacy of the bedroom between two consenting adults is their business and none of mine. That being said I feel that if two people love one another and are planning on getting married then its ok, thats a personal choice however and one that I have to repent for, but I also believe that there are many things that is seen as immoral and in reality it never does come out and say it in the Bible. Again...personal thought not proven fact.
 

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I usually don't play this card much because it opens the flood gates but...what goes on in the privacy of the bedroom between two consenting adults is their business and none of mine. That being said I feel that if two people love one another and are planning on getting married then its ok, thats a personal choice however and one that I have to repent for, but I also believe that there are many things that is seen as immoral and in reality it never does come out and say it in the Bible. Again...personal thought not proven fact.

What happens in the bedroom does NOT stay in the bedroom.

It ought to, and ideally it should, but in reality it doesn't.
There is no such thing as privacy between sexual partners regardless of sexual preference.

It comes out. It always does.

When it comes out of the bedroom, other people are affected and at that point it becomes community business.
When it becomes political, whether it be a sermon on Sunday morning or a Gay Pride parade, debate is challenged.
When the lives, emotions and rights of everyone is affected, judgment is justified.

Please don't drag out the old 'judge not lest you be judged' rubbish.
That line is ALWAYS used to justify immorality, and used wrongly.

Christians are called and directed to judge ALWAYS.
That misused line of scripture is meant to remind us to judge correctly.
We are even given detailed step by step guidelines as to how to go about it.

It's a caution for the saints, not a license for sinners.

You can put your used up card back in your deck now. It won't play this hand.
 

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What happens in the bedroom does NOT stay in the bedroom.

It ought to, and ideally it should, but in reality it doesn't.
There is no such thing as privacy between sexual partners regardless of sexual preference.

It comes out. It always does.

When it comes out of the bedroom, other people are affected and at that point it becomes community business.
When it becomes political, whether it be a sermon on Sunday morning or a Gay Pride parade, debate is challenged.
When the lives, emotions and rights of everyone is affected, judgment is justified.

Please don't drag out the old 'judge not lest you be judged' rubbish.
That line is ALWAYS used to justify immorality, and used wrongly.

Christians are called and directed to judge ALWAYS.
That misused line of scripture is meant to remind us to judge correctly.
We are even given detailed step by step guidelines as to how to go about it.

It's a caution for the saints, not a license for sinners.

You can put your used up card back in your deck now. It won't play this hand.

I think you should re-read that part again, Only God himself is the judge the only one we judge over is our selves and the only way it comes out of the bed room is from gossip, rumors and people thinking they should know what everyone is doing. If you don't ask the questions you don't want the answers to then you won't get those answers. We are not called to judge we are called to spread the word and preach the word of Love which is God, if we went around judging everyone based on their personal believes then none of us would be getting into Heaven because as man we will always find a reason to pass judgment on someone. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 

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I think you should re-read that part again, Only God himself is the judge the only one we judge over is our selves and the only way it comes out of the bed room is from gossip, rumors and people thinking they should know what everyone is doing. If you don't ask the questions you don't want the answers to then you won't get those answers. We are not called to judge we are called to spread the word and preach the word of Love which is God, if we went around judging everyone based on their personal believes then none of us would be getting into Heaven because as man we will always find a reason to pass judgment on someone. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Your protestations shield wickedness and deny righteousness.
That is not God's heart nor God's way.

Christians are not judges of immorality so much as we are witnesses and watchmen against it.

See Ezekiel 3 among other similar passages. The divine intent is clear to those who wish to please God.
It is not clear to those who rebel against the ordinances of the Most High and who do the will of their father Satan.

Christians are called as watchmen to bear witness of immorality and to warn against it.
We are called and REQUIRED to tell the sinful world that God has issues with its wickedness and to define what that wickedness is.

Judgment is from God, not Christians.

The blood of the sinner is upon the watchman's head if he or she does not speak out about it.
If the watchman speaks according to God's direction and the sinner does not repent, then the sinner's blood is upon his own head, the watchman is clean.

There is a fire within us which requires us to speak out against immorality.
Some of us speak eloquently and others do so clumsily, but the voice of the choir of the saints is the same.

Repent of wickedness and escape the judgment of God.
God is indeed love and desires that all men live according to His ordinances.
God NEVER justifies wickedness.
God is NOT politically correct because He does not respect man's politics.
God's ways are not the ways of man.

All this about God being love and God excusing all sorts of filthiness is rubbish.
It's not in the Bible and it's not God's heart.
If the reader believes otherwise, he has convinced himself of a lie.
 

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Some great sound advice has been given in response to your questions.

Some bad and immoral advice has been given in response.

Some seek to be a law unto themselves, that they may hide their counsel from the Lord and what he has established.

There is no such thing as situational morals or ethics.

God has never abandoned His moral standards for us. Those standards have been in place from the beginning and are established to bless mankind with the true and proper use of those God given procreative powers.

God is the author of creation and His plan is wonderful and exalting within marriage.

I cannot speak for others, but our experience that chastity before marriage and fidelity within marriage are worth ALL the effort. Bringing that wonderful pure gift to the marriage alter is priceless. I can only say from personal experience that the opening of that precious gift after marriage and the many years of learning and discovering and growing together have been and are wonderful today. Sharing that wonderful part of marriage was brand new and exciting and wonderful more than 45 years ago, but I must admit that as we have been courting in earnest since marriage (courtship really begins after marriage), that love and intimate relationship has also grown immensely. What we experience today is far more wonderful after 45 years of marriage. Waiting until marriage is truly worthwhile!

My sweetheart would be very disappointed if I ever forgot to take her on a date every week. You should look forward to that when you get married! Wow! That translates into something over 2000 dates in over 45 years of marriage. And what's cool, is that she has never turned me down once in all those years!
 
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Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. - 2 Timothy 2:22

But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you. - 1 Corinthians 7:28

Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. - Revelation 2:22


Well, that is what the word of God has to say about it.


And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. - Genesis 19:5


This society of ours seeks out its energy and light through sexual gratification... If God does not start doing something about it he is going to have to raise up Sodom and Gomorrah, and apologize to them for destroying them and leaving this country of ours unharmed.