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Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by Barbara, Feb 19, 2021.

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  1. Barbara

    Barbara Well-Known Member

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    I really wish bobbyjo was still here, mainly because I am wondering how he accounts for nothing major taking place. All the prophecies, all the words from others, and yet nothing has come about. So ...... do you doubt God, doubt your inner voice. I have noticed that all the voices are now silent , but where does that place accountability.
    Many were rude to those who didn’t fall in line with what was being prophesied........
    Honestly, how is everyone handling things after so much hope was placed on ‘ insights ‘ ......
    Has it made you question anything ?
    How trusting will you be with the people who proclaimed, with certainly, what would unfold?
    Perhaps it’s the timing that was out, not the prophecy itself.
    Just curious .........
    Rita
     
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    They that wait upon the Lord, shall renew their strength....
     
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    Any time that I had an accurate prophesy I knew what I knew what I knew in my spirit. There was no questioning or arguing it. That's my experience.

    I had MANY experiences where I "heard" something and you think that it must be God, but not everything you "hear," no matter how clear it is, means that it is God. We have to remember that there's two different sides working here.

    I've had episodes where I was sitting around watching TV and then I heard very clearly "Isn't it wonderful?!" and then a minute or two later they were singing a song about "Isn't it Wonderful" or something on The Dick Van Dyke Show. Never saw it before. Was that God? No. It doesn't glorify God and all it did was make me feel nuts. I was also in the middle of intense spiritual warfare and these kinds of things were messing with me *all of the time*.

    It doesn't discourage me from the faith. I believe that God is looking out for us and he does what is right in his timing. My faith is in Christ and Christ alone. We need to rely on trusting God only. Not always in what people say.

    For the record, I have zero direct prophecies/insight about anything that's going on right now. I knew on election night who was going to be elected, and maybe there's a reason for that, but right now there's zilch.
     
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    I've had prophecy before from God and also angels. And you can't always tell it's from God. But it's pretty awesome when it happens. I don't tell anyone because they are supposed to glorify God and not me as a prophet. The times I knew it was God without a doubt I was filled with the Holy Spirit and could feel the fruits intensely for hours (Galatians 5:22-25).

    But yeah where's @Bobby Jo? They should still be here, They have things to contribute!
     
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    Hi Rita!

    For me, I honestly think I came away even more convinced of my gift in many ways. I had no idea so many were prophesying Trump would win, and that I was speaking in direct contrast to the vast majority. I even wanted myself to be wrong at one point, and was looking for ways to believe otherwise. But it came true.

    That having been said, there were a few things I would chalk up as being warnings of things potentially happening, such as BLM reaping what they would sow. That looked to be in the early stages of developing, but the tension faded and the country was spared any unnecessary violence. But I also honestly think much of how things unfolded was also because the powers that be changed their tactics. I personally believe they thought violence and armed revolt would be necessary, until it became apparent to them that the election could be stolen through voter fraud. Once they realized it, the whole scenario of how things would play out changed. Coverstone's prophesies I believe were conditioned around the enemy's original plan, and when it changed so did the outcomes.

    This of course all relies on the theory that the things men do can alter prophecy, such as happened when Jonah prophesied Nineveh would be destroyed but they repented. I don't think repentance played a part, I just think the enemy's plan for the country changed directions, and they went with a different plan.

    Prophecy is an interesting study, and I continue learning about it all the time. As for Bobby Jo, what he was off into was Blatantly false stuff for anyone with any knowledge of scripture, and I told him so several times publicly. But I also told him not to take it too hard when it didn't happen, because I could see how badly he was setting himself up for a fall.

    I hope he is ok, and I hope if necessary he simply uses a new identity to join us again. Apart from the quackery he taught, he was actually a likable guy in some ways. But I truly hope he doesn't start in with making Biblical predictions again. People need to at least have a semblance of knowledge regarding Biblical end-time prophecy before they go declaring who the two witnesses are, and that they are already here.
     
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    About things going silent, that's only for a time. There were some things I would have posted based on several dreams from different sources that corroborated with each other, but because of the political climate being so heated back then (November), I decided to wait. I will likely just wait now until they show the early signs of fulfillment and then present them. Not that I need to wait personally - I know it is going to come to pass - but just that I was as sickened by so many of us not getting along as anyone else, and in the end I don't really see predicting it as being so important. People will die, and maybe prayer would change that a little, but this forum is my home and I'm enjoying things being more peaceful again for a change.

    God bless, and thanks for asking. It reminds me of where we were then and where we are now : )
     
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    Somebody in a YouTube video pointed out the scripture about judgment starting with the house of God. I had not considered that verse with all that's happening with fake prophets and big name church leader$ getting exposed lately. If we are to understand correctly, before judgment comes (and we've been expecting it for years) the church has to get shaken first. I'm beginning to think that may be happening. Fake prophets and million dollar ministries are being exposed, and it should be no surprise that the wealth and prosperity gospel is at the root of all this. (Yes, the Trump movement was/is centered in a desire for wealth in the name of God).

    Basically, we've been watching false prophets leading us into idol worship. That alone, even if their prophecies came true, is enough to recognize them as false prophets.

    1If a prophet or dreamer of dreams arises among you and proclaims a sign or wonder to you, 2and if the sign or wonder he has spoken to you comes about, but he says, “Let us follow other gods (which you have not known) and let us worship them,” 3you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. For the LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

    ...he has advocated rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you from the house of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way in which the LORD your God has commanded you to walk.

    Deuteronomy 13:1-5

    When you see Paula White in the white house as a spiritual leader you know right away God is not in it. I pray that we're all passing the test the Lord is administering right now (vs.3 above). And even if you haven't there's still time to turn to the Lord and get it right.
     
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    With respect to BobbyJo, I had no delusions about his understanding which was based on the understandings of the reformation figures who used the Daniel 2 & 7 chapters to demonise the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope.

    Within the USA there were many "profits/prophets" making prophecies that people on both sides of the political spectrum were wanting to hear. Some "christians" as still waiting for the trump triumph to occur.

    What the sad aspect of all of the prophets for me was, they did not understand that the USA "kingdom/empire" lead, as scripture declares, by the king of the North along with a coalition of some 20 nations/countries, entered the Land of Babylon, i.e. Iraq, and tried to heal the land, during the time that the Jews/Israel were seeking the way to Mt Zion and the punishment for their disregard for God's prophetic words with respect to what God required to happen to Iraq/Babylon, was that those nations by the edges of the sea, would be filled with people who are described as locusts, and that they would raise up a shout over the land.

    I mentioned this prophecy a number of times, on this forum and one other, but sadly, or so it seemed to me, people were not wanting to hear what the scriptures were saying about what was happening in the USA over the past number of years, as recorded in Jeremiah in Chapters 50 and 51. Johnny Howards, a support of the rhetoric to invade Iraq and other nations among the Islamic countries has also caused this same curse to unfold in Australia, but the curse is not as far advanced as it is in the USA.

    As far as the major change happening in the USA, it already has and one would have to be blind Freddy to miss it.

    The next undertaking of the King of the North during our times in around 25 or so years time, is to lead the nations as they assemble at Armageddon in a last ditched effort to stop the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem, and to trample of God's hosts here on the earth for being foolish enough in their attempt to rebuild the temple which was destroyed in 70 AD.

    During the time of these kings, God will establish His everlasting Kingdom here on the earth and a foundation stone, untouched by human hands, will come down out of heaven to become the highest mountain/religion on the face of the earth.

    There have been reeds blown by the winds who have been proclaiming that God's prophetic word as recorded in scripture will be coming to pass.

    However, others, without the authority of God, have been prophesying that which has not been recorded in the scriptures as if their knowledge is above reproach in all things, but the translations that we revere, have hidden God's truth from us, which they have relied on for their justification for their prophetic words.

    Shalom
     
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    In recent years, there have been many prophecies concerning..'politics/political arena.'
    - Most of them were proven to be wrong.
    - Many Christians were lured into.. those prophecies.
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    More 'spiritual discernment/the discerning of spirits' is needed..nowadays.
     
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    People forget that prophecy is to be understood after the event.. Not before.
    "I have told you these things before, that when they come to pass you shall know that I am He".
     
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    Prophecy is one of those things that is there to offer guidance on how to move forward.
    It is never good news.

    For example...
    During the Oliver discourse Jesus explained exactly when to leave Jerusalem because it was going to be destroyed. He even gave a short term prophecy to prove He wasn't kidding.

    And when Jerusalem fell...it was exactly in line with the day He predicted. But the effect was that none of the Christian Community was left in Jerusalem when it did become besieged. They went to the Gadarenes area where the man who had spirit Legion exorcised from him had been busy evangelizing the area and the Christian Community there welcomed the Jerusalem exiles. But many did migrate North and eventually west into Asia...where John had mentioned in his letter "Revelations" and addressed the Christian Community.

    There was a significant group that went South into Egypt and West into Iran/Iraq area as well. Unfortunately due to recent Moslem extremism these Christian communities have had to flee. Even those in Turkey aren't doing so well either.

    But I digressed...

    The FORM and FUNCTION of prophecy is always the same. It's been a long time since I have seen one given in any form of proper form and function.
     
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    Hi Rita-
    Things WERE changing under Trump...
    But back to Usual, promoting the Marxist regime... Treaties, sucking millions out of Taxpayors pockets, Open Borders Intents, Gifts to Illegal Aliens on the Taxpayors dime,
    Economy depression, Highlighting push of abortions, Family separations, Energy unavailable, Ramping up US soldiers overseas...
    Same old game...Separation, broke, no jobs, Crap food, Death scares, War, Abortions, Gang murders, Gun restrictions, Hitler style camps (for supposed health safety)
    Same Marxist Agenda...which is moving at warp speed.

    When the Big Picture reality Affects YOU personally...Then you will "See" the Major Unfolding.

    The "little" Bites of Liberty, here and there ARE with a Big Picture Goal....which is Exactly what BobbyJo was talking About.

    Bidens answer to Every ISSUE is Preached as "Freebie" giveaways.

    Freedom is not Free.
    FREEBIES Are not Free.
     
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    Exactly.
    A forewarning and What to Avoid is Given.

    Currently the Marxist Regime is Promoting FEAR... on multiple Levels...their Endless "Crisis".
    FEAR of Death...they will Save.
    FEAR of Global Warming...they will Save.
    FEAR of Hunger...they will Feed.
    FEAR of Homelessness...they will House.
    FEAR of War...they will be Armed "you won't"
    FEAR of Drugs...they Will Drug you.
    On and On

    FEAR is the INFLUENCE of the spirit OF EVIL!

    OPEN Ears, OPEN Eyes... WHO is Promoting and fostering CRISIS after CRISIS and Instilling FEAR?

    Not a Mystery...the Very Same who ARE Influenced BY Satan, with a platform, Position, Mic ... are Foot-soldiering to Instill FEAR in people.

    Not a big Mystery, Why "deplat-forming, Silencing Trump" was/is their Agenda...

    Trump was NOT Promoting Oppression and FEAR... Trump was Appealing to God...
    And the FEAR mongers appeal to Satan.

    Trump was/is an obstacle to their Agenda.

    2 Tim 1:[7] For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

    So why are so many "falling for the Marxists Preaching Of FEAR"...and "that they are the Savior", Preaching they are the SAVIOR, "Fixing Everything with Money, that IS not theirs"???
     
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    I know this scripture. Do you have the address though off hand? That is good, Backlit.
     
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    This is what is important moving forward, I think...walk in the Spirit. And the church, put aside enmity and strife. See past differences. Enmity and strife are not from God.

    "Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another."
    Galatians 5:19‭-‬26 KJV
     
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    I'm not going to say whether Trump is going to be president or not. I don't know.

    But when people do have a prophecy, I wouldn't expect it to always be immediate or easy.

    You have 400 years of silence between the old and the new testament. How long did Abraham and Sarah have to wait? What happened to Joseph before he was prince? What did he have to go through? How long did the Israelites stay lost in the wilderness for a journey that should only have taken about three weeks?

    When I had a man prophesy over me as a teenager, he said I would have a visitation and some other things. I told my teacher what happened and she was immediately concerned and warned me to not let it discourage my faith because "prophecies are not immediate" and she warned me "Don't be disappointed if it doesn't happen for a long time. . . It could take 20 years."

    It took about 13-14 years. Somewhere in there. Don't expect things to be immediate. I went on with things and forgot about it until it happened, but that's useful advice for everyone today.
     
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    Me too, I'm also concerned for him greatly!! I'd love to compare notes, but I'd love more to encourage him in the Lord if needed.

    Much love!
     
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    Nothing is changed for me. I still don't know what is going to happen.

    As far as the prophetic announcements, all the things said and will be said, I've been watching that parade go by for decades.

    Much love!
     
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    Myself, I'm not seeing how this modern prophetic movement actually builds up the church. I'm not saying I don't think prophecy builds the church, of course it does.

    You say it well, Christians may be lured into those prophecies, and into the whole idea of being a prophet. I desire to prophecy that my words will be as the oracle of God. Some desire to prophesy so that they may be known as mighty among the people of God.

    Some seek the assurance from the prophet, lacking the sense of assurance from the Holy Spirit.

    Much love!
     
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