so few are real Christians

[ScaliaFan]

We all sin, so i am not talking about people who just... swear when upset.. or eat too much sometimes (gluttony) or that kind of thing that basically only hurts self.. I am talking about people who call themselves Christian but can't even do the minimal that is required by Christianity..

Everyone is a sinner but a true Christian does not hurt people (for no valid reason... valid, meaning sometimes telling the truth and so forth.. may "hurt" someone but needs to be said...)

so anyway...

You know i am right saying so few are Christians.. Jesus said it himself, that few would find the narrow way to Heaven... Don't have to tell me twice, Jesus... I have been around awhile

Trump claims to be a Christian, but... doesn't act like one a lot of the time.. and of course his competetor thinks its OK to murder helpless children... She is supposed to be a Methodist.. I dont know what the methodist church teaches on human life in the womb, so maybe she's not being a hypocrite?

well, anyway, at least Trump does not think much of abortion, according to my best information.. :)

In any case, there is a psg in the bible about those who end up in Hell and one group are those who "cause others to sin." Now when i was young and didn't know much, i always thought no one could make u do anything, but today, i totally u/stand this psg... If someone harasses or oppresses you to the point you are.. not in a good frame of mind... disheartened... well, you aren't going to be a very good or productive Christian...

anyway... I guess it will all come out in the wash...

 

[Naomi25]

While I believe it's true, you can tell a person by their fruits, I think this must be a careful area. As you said, Christians aren't perfect, and sadly that non-perfection can often mean saying or doing things that you regret instantly, or later once you've had time think, or be rebuked by the Spirit.
I think we also need to be mindful of those 'Christians' who seem to have fallen away from the faith, but God is wooing them. The bible even tells us that at times it is necessary to boot people out of the church in effort to show them how much they need Jesus (1 Cor 5:5). Thus they come to him eventually. These people are not lost forever, they are our siblings who need prayer, love and truth telling. I would hesitate to label a person beyond all hope...Paul's own story shows us that God can call and redeem anyone.

 

[ScaliaFan]

While I believe it's true, you can tell a person by their fruits, I think this must be a careful area. As you said, Christians aren't perfect, and sadly that non-perfection can often mean saying or doing things that you regret instantly, or later once you've had time think, or be rebuked by the Spirit.
I think we also need to be mindful of those 'Christians' who seem to have fallen away from the faith, but God is wooing them. The bible even tells us that at times it is necessary to boot people out of the church in effort to show them how much they need Jesus (1 Cor 5:5). Thus they come to him eventually. These people are not lost forever, they are our siblings who need prayer, love and truth telling. I would hesitate to label a person beyond all hope...Paul's own story shows us that God can call and redeem anyone.

i didnt mean to say anyone is beyond hope

i also dont believe any church should kick anyone out unless that person is seroiusly disruptive or criminal toward members of the church... The Catholic Church welcomes all, even though not all can take Holy Communion. Not even all Catholics can.. if they are in serious, unconfessed sin. But people are always invited to go to Mass

Also, St Paul said there are people we should not pray for.. i believe these are the apostates... who have left the faith w/o excuse..

 

[ScaliaFan]

Tim Kaine looks like the Joker

Clinton like Chuckie

so we Trump-Pence

running against Chuckie-Joker ticket

LOL

 

[heretoeternity]

The whole political system is based on lies and deception. The politicans are merely puppets, who jump to the tune of the globalist puppetmasters..the people do not matter..just get out and vote to give the corrupt politicians credibility.
To complicate matters further, the vast majority of the high powered multi millionaire "christian pastors" seem to be reluctant to speak out on the many pressing moral issues of the day which are promoting the decline in human morality and dignity..Why? The tax exempt status probably is one reason why this does not happen. They appear too busy with their asset management than actually preaching the true Word of God, and coming against the evils in the country.

 

[kerwin]

We all sin, ...

I disagree, as agreeing means I do not believe God gave to anyone.

Jesus stated he would set those that believe truly free from slavery to sin and therefore there are some that have been set truly free of sin even though I am not one' nor can I say I know anyone that has been so freed. Some may be is the process of being free even though many claim to be in that process though they may not correctly understand their own words.

If you were to say "all have sinned" then I would agree.