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Sociopaths

Discussion in 'Fellowship Forum' started by Kimshi42, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. Kimshi42

    Kimshi42 New Member

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    Hello:Has anyone dealt with a sociopath before or a suspected sociopath? I'm going through something now and I'd like input/personal POVs from some believers. Thanks...
     
  2. Kimshi42

    Kimshi42 New Member

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    No one?
     
  3. cedarhart

    cedarhart When good men do nothing, evil will triumph.Take a

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    Hey there, My first response and advice would be to "get away from them" as soon as possible! They cannot be cured and rarely treatable. Unfortunately, it is like anything else that is a mental illness, meaning it is a genetic flaw of the neurotransmitters in the brain. This disorder is a particularly unstable one and can be dangerous for all involved. Below are just 2 information sites that are good but there are many on Google. You cannot help this person, sorry. They have to seek medical treatment because they want to and many don't care to do that. They can be masters of manipulation and usary of money and people. Perhaps you might review II Timothy 3 for traits of these persons and what it states to do with them.........."from such turn away". I know that is harsh but this is where tough love needs to come in.If you can't get this person to get medical treatment or stick with their program and they are wreaking havoc on their friends and family...........try to get them arrested. I know that is extreme but if they act up in jail, they will get a mental health evaluation and often that requires them to take their medications through a court order. Or..............keep in contact with the officers and push for committment to a hospital. The most important thing is to produce a "track record" of events that you can propose and keep a diary of their actions. This is very important. If you have no real obligation to this person, move on. Sorry, but they are in God's hands and the best you can do is to pray for them.Blessings to you for caring.http://health.yahoo.com/mentalhealth-overview/http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/antisocial-personality-disorder/DS00829/DSECTION=symptoms
     
  4. walker starrfta99

    walker starrfta99 New Member

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    Sociopath =psychopath same thing just not as PC. They hve pleasing personalities willlie even when the truth would work better.they have potential for violence. there is no medical or psychologiccal cure. AVOID THEM OR SHOOT THEM . Protect yourself.
     
  5. WhiteKnuckle

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    Actually a Sociopath is different than a Psychopath. A Sociopath is one who is more like a murderer, or cereal killer. A Psychopath is someone who is self absorbed, and behaves irrationaly, and often angrily at one point, then calm at another. You can catch them in a lie, and they wont think anything about it. This is a long definition, but, there's a difference between the two. You're right, there is no mdical cure for either of them.
     
  6. Deadwheat1224

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    An actual socio/psycho path is extremely ray however... and usually all but the most intelligent end up in prison. While I don't believe that all psychological illness is purely biological (any educated psychologist will advocate the bio-psycho-social model), very rarely are such sociopaths able to get effective treatment. However, many manifest thier disorder in the form of "small crimes" (convienence store burglary, GTA, or armed robbery) It is very rare that one actually is a serial killer... such as hannibal lector. While I don't advocate hanging around with them, one won't usually hurt you unless you get in the way of something they want. Typically they don't kill just for the thrill of killing.
     
  7. Redeemed22

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    I politely disagree with some previous comments. No cure for sociopath/psychopath/antisocial personality disorder? I agree that modern medicine doesn't have one!This issue hits close to home for me.I would like to deepen the discussion by suggesting a spectrum. Some people, by various combinations of genetics, nurture, spiritual oppression, and choice, have significant deficiencies in certain emotional areas, and this can occur in varying degrees and flavors. For example, John Doe might have an extraordinarily low amount of empathy, even when he feels like he should have more (I assure you this is no contradiction). Susan might have five times as much, but still be a cold, cold, unusually uncaring individual. It is not sufficient to have a binomial "normal emotion" vs. "no emotion" understanding of this issue.With that said, and I am going out on a limb here- I am, and have been, a borderline "sociopath" with many the standard "symptoms", especially in regard to the "have been" verb tense. I am also saved by the blood of Jesus.Why do I say borderline? Well, I never killed anybody (or tried), and I wasn't 100% without "normal" emotions. 98%? 97%? But you learn to fake emotions quickly!I have no intention of expounding everything that has ever been wrong with me, but I will give you an example which captures the idea. At about the age of 8 (plus or minus), I was playing with a boy in the woods. I began teasing him and throwing rocks and pinecones at him, even as he cried. He fell down a hill and broke his arm. I continued teasing him and throwing pinecones. I got bored and walked away. A few days later, I saw him in a cast and started teasing him about it. An adult pulled me aside and asked why I was being mean after having caused him to break his arm. I hadn’t realized he actually broke an arm when he had fallen off that hill, and so now I felt angry at him for being so weak and getting me in trouble. I was also angry at the adult for questioning me. However, I thought it was funny that the boy broke his arm. That was at a young age; I was a hellish accident waiting to happen. As a Christian I have struggled with my identity. 1 John 4:8 ESV "Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love."Though I no longer dwell in dark thoughts of hurting people, or entertain them at all, I am still deficient in love.Galatians 5:22-23a "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. "So if I claim to be in Christ, and have no love in me, I am lying in some regard! This actually encouraged me, like Jesus' muster seed example about faith. Christ had borne supernatural love in me! The Word of God, like the rain, doesn’t come back up to heaven without first watering the ground and fulfilling God’s purpose. There was hope for me.I began to feel emotions that I had never experienced! Genuine concern! Love!I am a living testimony that the Spirit bears fruit!So am I still 97% coldblooded? No! God is sovereign. When He says, "You are a new creation!" mountains tremble. Psalm 18:1-19 says it all. I am drastically different!Healing and transformation is a life-long thing. I don't look anything like I did, and I am no danger to society (if you must raise your eyebrows, please don't miss my point!). We are all deficient in love. God is love, and God has set out on His redemptive mission to restore us. God is mighty."It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives through me"-Redeemed22
     
  8. Martin W.

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    Believe it or not I have sympathy for the sociopath. Please hear me out. Run from the sociopath , do not offer him sympathy , do not believe his lies.A person with good observation skills will notice how hard the sociopath works at presenting his false personna. He will even work hard to fake guilt , sorrow , and a conscience. Almost like he is trying to be "normal".But because he is trapped in a mental condition of total lies , he cannot escape his condition. What a tragedy. Thus my pang of sympathy for those so afflicted. We all make mistakes , most of the time we can correct them and change for the better. The sociopath cannot , he is truly trapped. There is no known cure. It is like repentance is impossible for them . Deep down inside I want to believe that Jesus Christ could heal them. I just do not know how to do it. Maybe excorcism? Some excorsists feel the sociopath condition is more a demonic issue than a mental health issue. It is like the father of lies has completely taken them over.I have even observed sociopath afflicted people go through the "Born Again Christian" experience. They work very hard to do all the right things to "fit in" but it is still an act.There is still a human life deep under these afflictions , it is sad if they have no escape. Almost seems unfair.I have not totally given up on the sociopath, but do not know a solution. Sorry.Martin W.
     
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  10. Martin W.

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    -Redeemed22 Thank you for your encouraging words and success My heart and prayers are with you.Martin
     
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