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Dear All,

In the futuristic movie, entitled, “The Matrix”, Morpheus says,

“”Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream, Neo? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? ”

Later he adds,

“The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.”
Morpheus continues,

“What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.”

This is also true of people in their daily lives. Something seems off, something seems not quite right. Everything we believe feels real but we have an innate sense that it is not entirely true. The central theme of this science fiction fantasy resonates with people because it is, in fact, extremely close to the truth which is, we are at the beginning stages of:

Strong Delusion

The Bible is a curious book. It is written by sixty six authors over thousands of years and yet it presents one consistent viewpoint…i.e. God’s viewpoint. Another interesting characteristic of the scriptures is that you cannot understand them without God revealing them to you. In other words, without the illumination of the Holy Spirit, the Bible is a closed book.
When you give your heart to Jesus God forgives us. When God forgives us it is now possible to begin to fellowship with Him. The way that was closed through sin is now open through grace because our sins have been washed away through faith in the son of man. At this point, when we read the Word, we begin to understand the things of God. We learn of salvation, water baptism, grace and mercy, and how our Father dealt with mankind down through the ages. Though it may feel like it, none of this understanding comes through out natural minds, but is rather given through God’s Spirit. This is why we understand now what we could not begin to understand when we were unsaved.

As we progress deeper into the things of God we learn that we can be filled with His Holy Spirit and that this infilling is evidenced by speaking in an unknown language. This is called speaking in other tongues. We speak as the Spirit gives us the words. What the Bible calls the most unruly member of our body. our tongue, is now completely given over to the Holy Spirit when we yield to Him as we speak in other tongues. This has the added benefit of opening us up further to His Spirit and the illumination in His word increases commensurately. What may have seemed difficult to understand in the past now becomes clear the God speaks to us. It is written,

“Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”
John 14:17​
And,

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

John 16:13​
As we progress still deeper, and experience Tabernacles, the clarity of our vision increases yet again. It is akin to an optometrist making the final few adjustments to your lens selection bringing even the smallest letters of the chart into focus. We finally start to touch upon the true state of the first century church and what was written at that time now begins to make perfect sense. Through the experience of “Love of the Spirit” or “Divine Love” we realize that the unity they enjoy between one another was born out of a shared experience and not just doctrinal agreement. We begin to catch a glimpse of what a “love feast” truly meant and we understand why it was logical and practical for those in Jerusalem to have all things in common.

Here is a truth,

“Those who follow after Christ experience progressively stronger revelation while those who reject Christ experience progressively stronger delusion.”

It is written,

“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:”

2 Thessalonians 2:8-11​
In these verses, God is speaking about strong delusion brought about by the coming of the antichrist who is the express image of Satan on the Earth. Instead of performing miracles that do good and glorify God the antichrist performs signs and lying wonders that are meant to deceive and glorify himself. Furthermore, God sends strong delusion upon those who rejected the knowledge and sacrifice of His son so that they will believe the lying wonders of the son of perdition.​
Here is a truth,​
“The world has already begun to slip into the time of strong delusion.”
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”​
Isaiah 5:20​
Those of the world are pushing for, and to a large extend accomplishing, the goal of making sin seem good and righteousness seem evil. They are doing this with the aid of the beginning of “strong delusion.” What once would not have been even been contemplated, for it was viewed as sin, is now days becoming common place, acceptable, and even popular. Such things as abortion, promiscuity, and homosexuality are being presented as the new normal when if fact they are against everything That God stands for. Even the president of the United States, a historically Christian nation, has come out in favor of same sex marriage. Yet, when someone points this out they are viewed as archaic, out of touch, and bigoted.​
We have entered into the beginnings of strong delusion. This lying spirit doe not just appear suddenly when the antichrist is revealed but is a gradual decent into wickedness culminating in the revealing of the man of sin. It is meant to change our perceptions of what is good and what is evil to prepare us to receive someone instead of Christ. The antichrist is called a man of sin because that is his chief characteristic and those who follow after him do so because they are like him.​
This deception is coming upon the whole world and it is “Strong.” It is written,​
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”​
Matthew 24:24​
This strong delusion is insidious and pervaisve and it has already started to prepare the world to receive the son of perdition, the antichrist. It is in our churches and is corrupting our beliefs and is so influential that it threatens even the best of God’s people.​
This is why we need to live by revelation, because, left to our own natural minds we cannot fight against the onslaught of the near total reversal of right and wrong, good and evil, light and darkness. The lying spirit that precedes the revealing of the antichrist appeals to the mind and reasons with the soul, through demonic inspiration, to deceive those who do not obey God. The only real protection we have against this type of deception is through knowing and trusting the voice of God through the Holy Spirit. In order to walk in the midst of deception (without being deceived ourselves) we must walk in the Spirit through living by revelation.​
When I talk about revelation I mean living by whatever God speaks to our hearts and minds and not trusting our own intellect more than we trust His Spirit. What you really need when there is darkness is light. What you really need when there is spiritual darkness is spiritual light. Right now, because the world is being prepared to accept a lie we need to be able to trust the truth. In order to do this we must trust the Holy Spirit and submit our minds to His perception rather than ours. Yes, when we do this it will seems as though we are out of step with what people generally perceived to the right. However, the truth is, they are caught in the Matrix and do not know it.​
The magnitude of this strong delusion is breath taking. It pervades literally everything that we experience on a daily basis. If we had the benefit of living longer perhaps the seismic shift in attitude and morals would be more apparent. Unfortunately, most of us have grown up in this tidal wave of deception and we do not see it. It is gradualism at its finest. Put a frog suddenly into a boiling pot of water and he will immediate jump out. Put a frog in a pot of lukewarm water, gradually turn up the heat, and it will sit there until it boils to death. At this point, most of us viewing life from the bottom of a pot that is getting dangerously hot and we don’t even realize it.​
The Church, contrary to their perception, is deeply mired in this delusion too. The trend towards mega churches is symptomatic of this delusion. A one world religion is not meant to serve God but rather to support the antichrist. Those who are pushing for large “world wide” ministries are in fact preparing their people to become part of the harlot church of Revelation. The emphasis of prosperity and personal improvement is not the gospel of Christ but the false gospel of the antichrist. Those who cringe at what I am saying do so, not because what I say is untrue, but because what I say is diametrically opposite to what they perceive to be truth…this is the effect of strong delusion.​
In conclusion, when the devil sends a flood God raises up a standard against that flood. That standard is the Holy Spirit (which is just the Spirit of our Father who is holy.) We, the very elect, must stand strong in His Spirit in order to be the light to the world. We must not bow to convention for that convention is not of God. We must speak the truth even if others fear to do so. Let us stand and be counted for God so that we will be beacons of hope and reason to those who seek refuge against the fall of night.​

Blessings,

Justin
 

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Justin Mangonel said:
Dear All,

In the futuristic movie, entitled, “The Matrix”, Morpheus says,

“”Have you ever had a dream, Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream, Neo? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world? ”

Later he adds,

“The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.”
Morpheus continues,

“What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.”

This is also true of people in their daily lives. Something seems off, something seems not quite right. Everything we believe feels real but we have an innate sense that it is not entirely true. The central theme of this science fiction fantasy resonates with people because it is, in fact, extremely close to the truth which is, we are at the beginning stages of:

Strong Delusion

The Bible is a curious book. It is written by sixty six authors over thousands of years and yet it presents one consistent viewpoint…i.e. God’s viewpoint. Another interesting characteristic of the scriptures is that you cannot understand them without God revealing them to you. In other words, without the illumination of the Holy Spirit, the Bible is a closed book.
When you give your heart to Jesus God forgives us. When God forgives us it is now possible to begin to fellowship with Him. The way that was closed through sin is now open through grace because our sins have been washed away through faith in the son of man. At this point, when we read the Word, we begin to understand the things of God. We learn of salvation, water baptism, grace and mercy, and how our Father dealt with mankind down through the ages. Though it may feel like it, none of this understanding comes through out natural minds, but is rather given through God’s Spirit. This is why we understand now what we could not begin to understand when we were unsaved.

As we progress deeper into the things of God we learn that we can be filled with His Holy Spirit and that this infilling is evidenced by speaking in an unknown language. This is called speaking in other tongues. We speak as the Spirit gives us the words. What the Bible calls the most unruly member of our body. our tongue, is now completely given over to the Holy Spirit when we yield to Him as we speak in other tongues. This has the added benefit of opening us up further to His Spirit and the illumination in His word increases commensurately. What may have seemed difficult to understand in the past now becomes clear the God speaks to us. It is written,

“Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”
John 14:17​
And,

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”

John 16:13​
As we progress still deeper, and experience Tabernacles, the clarity of our vision increases yet again. It is akin to an optometrist making the final few adjustments to your lens selection bringing even the smallest letters of the chart into focus. We finally start to touch upon the true state of the first century church and what was written at that time now begins to make perfect sense. Through the experience of “Love of the Spirit” or “Divine Love” we realize that the unity they enjoy between one another was born out of a shared experience and not just doctrinal agreement. We begin to catch a glimpse of what a “love feast” truly meant and we understand why it was logical and practical for those in Jerusalem to have all things in common.

Here is a truth,

“Those who follow after Christ experience progressively stronger revelation while those who reject Christ experience progressively stronger delusion.”

It is written,

“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the
truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:”

2 Thessalonians 2:8-11​
In these verses, God is speaking about strong delusion brought about by the coming of the antichrist who is the express image of Satan on the Earth. Instead of performing miracles that do good and glorify God the antichrist performs signs and lying wonders that are meant to deceive and glorify himself. Furthermore, God sends strong delusion upon those who rejected the knowledge and sacrifice of His son so that they will believe the lying wonders of the son of perdition.​
Here is a truth,​
“The world has already begun to slip into the time of strong delusion.”
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”​
Isaiah 5:20​
Those of the world are pushing for, and to a large extend accomplishing, the goal of making sin seem good and righteousness seem evil. They are doing this with the aid of the beginning of “strong delusion.” What once would not have been even been contemplated, for it was viewed as sin, is now days becoming common place, acceptable, and even popular. Such things as abortion, promiscuity, and homosexuality are being presented as the new normal when if fact they are against everything That God stands for. Even the president of the United States, a historically Christian nation, has come out in favor of same sex marriage. Yet, when someone points this out they are viewed as archaic, out of touch, and bigoted.​
We have entered into the beginnings of strong delusion. This lying spirit doe not just appear suddenly when the antichrist is revealed but is a gradual decent into wickedness culminating in the revealing of the man of sin. It is meant to change our perceptions of what is good and what is evil to prepare us to receive someone instead of Christ. The antichrist is called a man of sin because that is his chief characteristic and those who follow after him do so because they are like him.​
This deception is coming upon the whole world and it is “Strong.” It is written,​
“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.”​
Matthew 24:24​
This strong delusion is insidious and pervaisve and it has already started to prepare the world to receive the son of perdition, the antichrist. It is in our churches and is corrupting our beliefs and is so influential that it threatens even the best of God’s people.​
This is why we need to live by revelation, because, left to our own natural minds we cannot fight against the onslaught of the near total reversal of right and wrong, good and evil, light and darkness. The lying spirit that precedes the revealing of the antichrist appeals to the mind and reasons with the soul, through demonic inspiration, to deceive those who do not obey God. The only real protection we have against this type of deception is through knowing and trusting the voice of God through the Holy Spirit. In order to walk in the midst of deception (without being deceived ourselves) we must walk in the Spirit through living by revelation.​
When I talk about revelation I mean living by whatever God speaks to our hearts and minds and not trusting our own intellect more than we trust His Spirit. What you really need when there is darkness is light. What you really need when there is spiritual darkness is spiritual light. Right now, because the world is being prepared to accept a lie we need to be able to trust the truth. In order to do this we must trust the Holy Spirit and submit our minds to His perception rather than ours. Yes, when we do this it will seems as though we are out of step with what people generally perceived to the right. However, the truth is, they are caught in the Matrix and do not know it.​
The magnitude of this strong delusion is breath taking. It pervades literally everything that we experience on a daily basis. If we had the benefit of living longer perhaps the seismic shift in attitude and morals would be more apparent. Unfortunately, most of us have grown up in this tidal wave of deception and we do not see it. It is gradualism at its finest. Put a frog suddenly into a boiling pot of water and he will immediate jump out. Put a frog in a pot of lukewarm water, gradually turn up the heat, and it will sit there until it boils to death. At this point, most of us viewing life from the bottom of a pot that is getting dangerously hot and we don’t even realize it.​
The Church, contrary to their perception, is deeply mired in this delusion too. The trend towards mega churches is symptomatic of this delusion. A one world religion is not meant to serve God but rather to support the antichrist. Those who are pushing for large “world wide” ministries are in fact preparing their people to become part of the harlot church of Revelation. The emphasis of prosperity and personal improvement is not the gospel of Christ but the false gospel of the antichrist. Those who cringe at what I am saying do so, not because what I say is untrue, but because what I say is diametrically opposite to what they perceive to be truth…this is the effect of strong delusion.​
In conclusion, when the devil sends a flood God raises up a standard against that flood. That standard is the Holy Spirit (which is just the Spirit of our Father who is holy.) We, the very elect, must stand strong in His Spirit in order to be the light to the world. We must not bow to convention for that convention is not of God. We must speak the truth even if others fear to do so. Let us stand and be counted for God so that we will be beacons of hope and reason to those who seek refuge against the fall of night.​

Blessings,

Justin

Very good insights Justin!


We are living in a dangerous time. The world is getting further and further down a rabbit trail ...even young people think the world will end soon!

The forces of evil have infiltrated into the minds of everyone including most Christians who are not being careful enough to not love the world and the present age.

So then we now have as much of a fight within our own house as we do in the outside world. Never have we needed more to tarry before the Lord for the Holy Spirit to fill us that we might remain steadfast in the faith. These are historic times...but who is prepared for the final onslaught of a pitiless enemy that seeks to destroy the work of God both within and without the church?

Mat_24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

We are already in the time where people in the church cannot discern what is true or not anymore..
Preachers of righteousness and holiness are seen as the problem. Those who seek to awaken the brethren from their catatonic state are seen as invaders!!

The basic honesty and humility of a Christian has been seemingly overturned in favour of a false standing based on human priorities. The gospel standard has been all but obliterated in an attempt to appease the basest of natures....and this has been wildly popular in those who do not see the willingness to suffer as a Christian trait.

So we have settled for Mc Church...a quick fix to sainthood!

But does anyone care that this goes directly against righteousness?
 

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2 Thessalonians 2:6-12
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


After the rapture of the church, all who heard the truth of the gospel of Jesus and rejected Jesus will be caused to believe the lie of the antichrist. They will all be dammed and have no second chance to receive Jesus!

Win your loved ones now!!!
 

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Dear All,

Thanks for your commments. One minister said, "the whole world lies in the lap of the wicken one...so doesn't that mean we are alseep?" Even Jesus's disciples could not watch with Him one hour as he went to pray because of slumber. It is time that we start to function in the Spirit so that we can do the things of the Spirit. What are these things? It is simply to listen what God is speaking to each one of us. It is to actually hear what He says with our hearts and not just our heads. And finally it is to do what He says when He says to do it. In this way, we can become the manifested sons of God and be the lights set on a hill in the darkness of this generation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XeEL0mRBHo​

God bless,

Justin
 
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I see this heavily within my own generation and it started in public school where we are indoctrinated into a progressive mindset (more like progressive sin). What seems natural is in complete conflict with what the Bible has to say. I find it difficult to stay focused on the ways of God, it takes great effort.

Due to this strong delusion how do we know for sure we ourselves are not deluded? Or the people we see as wise, how do we know they aren't deluded, too?
 
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Levi said:
I see this heavily within my own generation and it started in public school where we are indoctrinated into a progressive mindset (more like progressive sin). What seems natural is in complete conflict with what the Bible has to say. I find it difficult to stay focused on the ways of God, it takes great effort.

Due to this strong delusion how do we know for sure we ourselves are not deluded? Or the people we see as wise, how do we know they aren't deluded, too?

Jesus Christ is life!!!! So as we experience an eternal type of life then we know we are in Him. All that is of Christ overcomes sin.
 

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Episkopos said:
Jesus Christ is life!!!! So as we experience an eternal type of life then we know we are in Him. All that is of Christ overcomes sin.
How do we know we are experiencing an eternal type of life?

Do you mean signs and wonders?

Christ does overcome sin.
 

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Levi said:
How do we know we are experiencing an eternal type of life?

Do you mean signs and wonders?

Christ does overcome sin.

The life of Christ quickens us to walk in the Spirit within us. So if you are walking in a heavenly power...even just a little...then you know that Christ is in you! If not...seek, ask and knock until you do!!
 

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Levi said:
I see this heavily within my own generation and it started in public school where we are indoctrinated into a progressive mindset (more like progressive sin). What seems natural is in complete conflict with what the Bible has to say. I find it difficult to stay focused on the ways of God, it takes great effort.

Due to this strong delusion how do we know for sure we ourselves are not deluded? Or the people we see as wise, how do we know they aren't deluded, too?
Study your bible, you can depend on it. Buy a strong's concordence.
 

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Episkopos said:
The life of Christ quickens us to walk in the Spirit within us. So if you are walking in a heavenly power...even just a little...then you know that Christ is in you! If not...seek, ask and knock until you do!!
Ok, thanks.

I think this happens sometimes, other times not so much. Like I said earlier, for me it takes great effort and doesn't come so easy.
 

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Levi said:
Ok, thanks.

I think this happens sometimes, other times not so much. Like I said earlier, for me it takes great effort and doesn't come so easy.
Be strong in the Lord...fight the good fight! I encourage you to remain unmoved by the pressures of the world. :)
 

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Eric E Stahl said:
Study your bible, you can depend on it. Buy a strong's concordence.
I have one of those, but I know people who could quote the entire Bible but I wonder if they are being led by the Holy Spirit.
Episkopos said:
Be strong in the Lord...fight the good fight! I encourage you to remain unmoved by the pressures of the world. :)
To remain unmoving requires Christ. :) I am weak in this, He is strong!
 

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"In conclusion, when the devil sends a flood God raises up a standard against that flood. That standard is the Holy Spirit (which is just the Spirit of our Father who is holy.) We, the very elect, must stand strong in His Spirit in order to be the light to the world.
We must not bow to convention for that convention is not of God. We must speak the truth even if others fear to do so. Let us stand and be counted for God so that we will be beacons of hope and reason to those who seek refuge against the fall of night.".....Justin Mangonel

From: INVASION AMERICA: TERROR & GREAT GLORY.....[ Tom Watkins ]

......."The Holy Side of it all. When I watched the Air-War for Superiority over our Nation, I watched a TREE...ever so small..tiny....tumbling toward me, expanding every turn, larger & larger...unti it overwhelmed the sky....It was like an olive tree.....filled with luxuriant leaves, perfect in shape, & massive.....I knew that this was the Tree of healing for ALL Nations, the Glory of Christ Jesus living in, & through His Church....That at this time...the church would be given End-Time Holiness, & anointing, & that Jesus Himself would inhabit Her, so that whoever touches her, touches the Lord Jesus Himself.

It is this church that will do exploits with power, & this church that will literally shine as lamps...& it is she who will represent the Bride who will be Redeemed...& will be given grace that whoever joins themselves to Her, will be given the exact same coorporate maturity as the rest....This is the American Version that will ever mature, & the remant that WILL be here upon the Return of Yahweh Jeshua.

"And I heard, as it were, the voice of a great multitude, as the sound of many waters and as the sound of mighty thunderings, saying, “Alleluia! For the Lord God Omnipotent reigns!
Let us be glad and rejoice and give Him glory, for the marriage of the Lamb has come, and His wife has made herself ready.”
And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.".....RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA!

I have seen the coming Apostles, holy & powerful, that will lay down their lives for the body, I have seen the American band of Martyrs, go to other countries knowing they will be slaughtered....but continue to GO!...as the Lord has commanded them....I have seen the holiest company of this church, ever seen on American soil raised up to minister in this land, MEN & WOMEN!...& they all had eyes like Jesus...glowing with Shekinah Glory.

These will be the days of INSTANT FRUIT, & instant maturity.....that will present a Bride..........that.............." He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. "
This Church will attain unto that spotlessness, by grace, & anointing oil:

"And all the GENTILES who are called by My name,”
Says the Lord who does THIS thing.
“Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord,
“When the plowman shall overtake the reaper,
And the treader of grapes him who sows seed;
The mountains shall drip with sweet wine,
And all the hills shall flow with it."

" I will bring back the captives of My people Israel;
They shall build the waste cities and inhabit them;
They shall plant vineyards and drink wine from them;
They shall also make gardens and eat fruit from them."

THESE ARE THE DAYS OF INSTANT FRUIT! ;INSTANT MATURITY...SPOTLESSNESS IN THE CHURCH.
This is the Bride on the day of the Rapture; the great gathering together....right here in America."....
Tom Watkins.
[ excerpt from article: ]
http://brideinthewilderness.blogspot.com/2012/03/justice-and-glory-americas-time-in.html#comment-form
 

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I have a bible too, and a concordance, but the Holy Spirit is my teacher and I will believe Him, God and Jesus before even the bible. Especially since there are so many translations made by man and no one knows which is right, even to the point where I see people quote different text from different bibles with the bible name so we are not confused, confusing isnt it.

In al His Love
 

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Dear Levi,

One way to know that we are in Christ and living a Christian life is to pray and ask God to speak to us. When we hear His voice, audible or within us, we listen carefully to what He says and then, if we are asked to do something, we do it. Through praying and listening and doing we develope a two experiencial relationship with Him. Once we begin to know His voice then we can start to live a very exciting life indeed.

Blessings,

Justin
 
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Brothertom said:
"Once we begin to know His voice then we can start to live a very exciting life indeed."

Or, a very crucified life indeed.
Yea, it's too bad there wasn't an easy way around that. ;)
 
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