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Take a stand!

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by cedarhart, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. cedarhart

    cedarhart When good men do nothing, evil will triumph.Take a

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    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) Are the men good in an absolute sense, or are they being described as good because they see the evil? Can they be described as good if they do nothing? Jesus rebuked the church at Laodicea for doing nothing. "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." (Rev. 3:15-17). Too many Christians and too many churches do nothing.  They are standing idly by, they are mere spectators. They sit on the sidelines instead of actively participating and working for the good. If good wins, they join in the celebration though they did nothing to produce the victory. If evil wins, they will complain long and loud though their own apathy helped produce the undesirable result.When Jesus found a fig tree with "nothing thereon, but leaves only" He cursed the tree and "presently the fig tree withered away" (Matt. 21:19). What will He do with those who claim to be good and yet who do nothing? Jesus told of a traveler who was robbed, beaten and left him half dead. The men who did this were wicked and did a very wicked thing.  But the Levite and priest allowed this evil to continue unanswered by doing nothing as they each "passed by on the other side" (Luke 10:31-32). Fortunately for the traveler there was one man, a Samaritan, who was willing to stand up for what was right (Luke 10:33-36).Jesus warned "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad" (Matt. 12:30). In the fight against evil there is no middle ground, no gray area, no neutrality.  Those who are not actively and vigorously fighting against evil are helping evil to triumph."Be not deceived; God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" (Gal. 6:7). Those who fail or refuse to do good in the face of evil are sowing some dangerous seeds. They are doing nothing good as Jesus commanded them to do; they are helping evil to win and have ceased being good and have become partakers of the evil they did nothing to stop.Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing. Stand up and be counted, speak up against evil and speak out against evil men and their sinful deeds.Take a Stand!Cedarhart
     
  2. cedarhart

    cedarhart When good men do nothing, evil will triumph.Take a

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    While doing some reading, I came across this and it reminded me of a few experiences that I have already had. They were just as this states:Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. "People like the father in the previous example, will be hated because they won’t accept the false Messiah, and worship his image, as the Book of Daniel was an example. Ever been in a group where you were the only one that disagreed, with good reason, but everyone ‘sneered’ at you, and ‘brow beat’ you, trying to make you change your mind? The elect will withstand the ‘fiery darts of Satan’, putting on the ‘Gospel Armour’ and will worship the True Christ, Who comes after Satan (see Ephesians 6)." http://members.tnns.net/wordweb/msg6.htmNaively, I hadn't quite made the comparison to being "delivered up" with confirmation as to what would take place until this came along. This is an insight into what will take place. It seems that evil is repulse by me and acts out. I have never been banned from a goup until recently when I would not submit and conform to their demands that I stop thinking so deeply and abstractly, even though I backed each supposition up with Scripture. They only wanted their members to think by their imposed way and they wanted to control what was posted and thought. I just couldn't blend in and they felt the Holy Spirit, I feel, and decided that I was causing too much trouble as others in group wanted to be able to be free to think and digest Scripture also. I was really "brow beaten and sneered at" and it's somewhat amusing to me now. They literally "pounced" on me with false accussations to bait me into "losing it" so that they could kick me out. The fact that I never did, angered them even more. So, in conclusion, it seems that any who have been singled out as the "chicken with the red dot" should view it as a badge of honor as your Spirit must be shining through so much that evil cannot bear it and wants you dismissed!Has anyone else had this?Blessings and hold steadfast,Cedarhart
     
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    ... I have never been banned from a goup until recently when I would not submit and conform to their demands that I stop thinking so deeply and abstractly, even though I backed each supposition up with Scripture. They only wanted their members to think by their imposed way and they wanted to control what was posted and thought. I just couldn't blend in and they felt the Holy Spirit, I feel, and decided that I was causing too much trouble as others in group wanted to be able to be free to think and digest Scripture also. I was really "brow beaten and sneered at" and it's somewhat amusing to me now. ...Has anyone else had this?Blessings and hold steadfast,Cedarhart
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  4. epistemaniac

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    this OP is actually a quote from Wayne Greeson.... (just trying to give credit to the originator of these very good words)When Good Men Do Nothingby Wayne Greeson"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again in the scriptures.They Get Nothing Good DoneWhen good men do nothing, they get nothing good done. To be good, one must do good. The Lord commands his people to do good (Luke 6:35; Eph. 2:10). Christ "gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works" (Titus 2:14).In the parable of the talents, Jesus described a man who did nothing. When he received his Lord's money, he "went and digged in the earth, and hid his Lord's money" (Matt. 25:18 ). When his Lord returned, he returned to the Lord just what he had been given (Matt. 25:25). Notice, the servant did not do any outright evil, such as stealing the money, but then neither did he do anything good. He did nothing and he got nothing good accomplished. Jesus said he was a "wicked and slothful servant" (Matt. 25:26).Jesus rebuked the church at Laodicea for doing nothing. "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked" (Rev. 3:15-17).Too many Christians and too many churches do nothing. They are standing idly by, they are mere spectators. They sit on the sidelines instead of actively participating and working for the good. If good wins, they join in the celebration though they did nothing to produce the victory. If evil wins, they will complain long and loud though their own apathy helped produce the undesirable result.When Jesus found a fig tree with "nothing thereon, but leaves only" He cursed the tree and "presently the fig tree withered away" (Matt. 21:19). What will He do with those who claim to be good and yet who do nothing? John the baptist warned, "And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire" (Matt. 3:10; John 15:2).They Help Evil To TriumphWhen good men do nothing, evil triumphs. Evil, sin and sinful men must be opposed. God commands those who are good, not just to avoid evil but actively oppose it.Christians are to not only to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but (also) reprove them" (Eph. 5:11). Those who do nothing about sin and evil, help the sin and evil to prevail. One who is silent when there are those around him in sin becomes a partaker with them (Eph. 5:7).In the days of Elijah, the silence of many had allowed the evil of Ahab and Jezebel to prevail throughout the land of Israel. "And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? If the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word" (1 Kings 18:21). The silence of the people spoke volumes of their indecisiveness and inaction. Their failure to stand up, speak up and speak out permitted wicked and evil men to run rampant.Jesus told of a traveler who was robbed, beaten and left him half dead. The men who did this were wicked and did a very wicked thing. But the Levite and priest allowed this evil to continue unanswered by doing nothing as they each "passed by on the other side" (Luke 10:31-32). Fortunately for the traveler there was one man, a Samaritan, who was willing to stand up for what was right (Luke 10:33-36).Jesus warned "He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad" (Matt. 12:30). In the fight against evil there is no middle ground, no gray area, no neutrality. Those who are not actively and vigorously fighting against evil are helping evil to triumph.They Are No Longer GoodWhen good men do nothing, they are no longer good. Many have the mistaken notion that good is merely the absence of doing that which is wrong. Not so! One is good not merely because he does no evil, but because he is actively working for what is good. "Let him eschew evil, and do good" (1 Pet. 3:11). James explained, "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin" (James 4:17).The eldest of Israel, Reuben, knew his brothers' murderous plot against their younger brother Joseph was wrong. He started an attempt to deliver Joseph, but as he hesitated and vacillated, the other brothers sold Joseph into slavery. When Reuben heard what they had done, he realized his failure to act had helped to bring about this evil result.Instead of correcting his error, Reuben sought to cover his guilt by agreeing with his brothers to lie to their father about Joseph's disappearance (Gen. 37:18-35). Reuben had "good intentions" and he was not even present when Joseph was sold into slavery, but he knew his inaction and absence made him just as guilty as the rest of his wicked brothers. This guilt continued to haunt him through the years (Gen. 42:21-22).The prophet Obadiah severely condemned the Edomites for doing nothing when evil was befalling their brethren, the Jews. When Jerusalem was invaded by her enemies, the Edomites "stood on the other side" doing nothing but watching the slaughter as spectators. God said by their failure to act and to help their brethren "even thou wast as one of them" (Obad. 11).Today, there are preachers and Christians who fail and refuse to meet the real foe, refute error and fight the enemy. Instead, they have turned to viciously savaging their own brethren. They are filled with bitterness and hatred and they maliciously attack, slander and misrepresent other Christians and gospel preachers.Paul warned about such men and behavior among those professing to be Christians, "But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another" (Gal. 5:15). Those who engage in such behavior are spiritual cannibals.While the conduct of these so-called Christians is shameful, what about those supposedly "good" men who do nothing? Those stand on the other side and do nothing but watch as their brothers are being slandered, slaughtered and devoured, they cease being innocent bystanders and idle spectators. Their failure to act not only allows evil to triumph, but makes them just as guilty as the spiritual cannibals they refuse to reprove and rebuke. In God's words, "even thou wast as one of them" (Obad. 11).Conclusion"Be not deceived; God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" (Gal. 6:7). Those who fail or refuse to do good in the face of evil are sowing some dangerous seeds. They are doing nothing good as Jesus commanded them to do; they are helping evil to win and have ceased being good and have become partakers of the evil they did nothing to stop.Do not allow evil to triumph. Do not do sit by and do nothing. Stand up and be counted, speak up against evil and speak out against evil men and their sinful deeds.Sowing The Seed, Vol. 3, by Wayne Greeson. Twenty full sermon outlines which are ready to preach. Topics include "Wise Advise," "The Abundant Life," "Little Foxes," "Giants and Grasshoppers," "God's Law Of Harvest," and "Have I Become Your Enemy?" (107 pages) (PDF file size: 648k).Wedding And Funeral Sermons, a collection of wedding and funeral sermons by David Padfield, Wayne Greeson, Harry Lewis, Brian Sullivan, Wayne Walker, Gene Taylor, and Robert Welch (PDF file size: 149k).http://www.padfield.com/1997/goodmen.html
     
  5. cedarhart

    cedarhart When good men do nothing, evil will triumph.Take a

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    Hey There!I have always posted the link for the source of information but didn't this time as I am new here and in another group that ask me not to. That was in case some new student went to that site and was not able to discern what is not correct or be influenced by something that the group does not agree with. If management is OK here with posting links, I will continue to do so. I also did not post the entire essay as it is very long. So I took what I felt represented the topic and got the point across. I strongly believe in this message.Thank you for your input and yes, it was very interesting and that's why I posted it!Cedarhart
     
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    "Those who are not actively and vigorously fighting against evil are helping evil to triumph."True, but scary. I'm guilty of this, it gets easy to let things go, but we are here representing Christ. A lot of Christians today seem to be asleep.
     
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    Cleaned up this thread for the OP. (If you have an issue with a post, please report it privately. We have staff on hand to deal with issues, we don't need folks playing forum cop. Thanks!)
     
  8. cedarhart

    cedarhart When good men do nothing, evil will triumph.Take a

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