The 2nd Death Is For Those Who Have Defamed The Name Of The Lord

[Vickie]

There has never been much spoken on the 2nd death though we do hear about it in Rev 20:15, that death and Hades will be thrown in it at the 2nd resurrection of the dead. Studying the word and with God's spirit, I was shown in the bible the 2nd death is for those who have disqualified themselves by disgracing and publicly humiliating the Savior, which is described in Heb 6:6-8 Those who produce thorns and thistles are in danger of being cursed and in the END will be BURNED. The verses below will show this is real and it is coming to those who have heard the Kings voice and have defamed him with their actions. Two things happen according to the scriptures at Christ's coming, those who took the mark have their bodies left here for the fowls of the air to gorge themselves on. Then there is another group that Rev 14:17-20 called a cluster of grapes from off the vine. The good grapes are those mentioned and removed in Rev 14:14-16. The bad grapes are the other left here to face the wrath of God. These are mentioned in Jeremiah 8:13Revelation 20:5-15(5) But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.(6) Blessed and holy is he that has part in the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. We know the good grapes are in the first resurrection and brought into the millennium to reign as Priest with Christ.But there are the bad grapes the cluster that are left for the harvesters as mentioned in Rev 14:14-20. We are removed while they face the wrath of God from out of their graves they also have been called up to have their flesh come back on them only to face the indignation long awaiting them. The 2nd death has no power over those who HAVE PART in the 1st resurrection. I think many have read over this without much thought given. We who have part in the millennium have not fear of the 2nd death. But not everyone called will enter into the 1st resurrection and the verses will prove this. We are told in John 5:28-29 Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice at his coming back to earth to reign. Some to everlasting LIFE other to CONDEMNATION, which is the second death. 1.) all who are in their graves does not include those who have not known God and we know this because the dead do not hear his voice, but those who have been called hear his voice and will hear his voice from their grave at his coming. Plus we have those who come up in the 2nd resurrection called the rest of the dead do not come up in the 1st resurrection as Rev 20:11-16 speaks about it. 2.) the 1st resurrection is for those who have entered into the covenants only. Starting with Adam till the day of Christ's voice being HEARD which will raise up the dead in Christ, all who have been called by God in all dispensations, covenants, all who have heard his voice while alive, this is the group who is coming up. some to everlasting life, others to everlasting condemnation Dan 12:2. along with John 5:228-29 tells us this. This will be shown to us in the verses as stated. And we are also told in Rev 20:6 we who HAVE PART in this first resurrection have no fear of the 2nd death. Not every Jew or Christian is going to HAVE PART in the eternal life in the Millennium because there are verses below that tells us there are some who have disqualified themselves. Hebrews 6:4 It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5.) who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, 6.) if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because "TO THEIR LOSS THEY ARE CRUCIFYING THE SON OF GOD ALL OVER AGAIN AND SUBJECTING HIM TO PUBLIC DISGRACE. Heb 6:7 speaks of the land that drinks in rain producing goodness for God receives the blessing from God, but those 8.) who produce THORNS and THISTLES is worthless and is "REJECTED AND IS NIGH UNTO CURSING; WHOSE END IS TO BE BURNED. There are other places Like Heb 10:26 that speaks about disqualification. Below in Jeremiah 8 is a whole chapter of God speaking about this day of the 2nd death, the cup of wrath, also called the water of Gall, those who sinned against God have to drink (Jer. 8:14)Jeremiah 8:1 At that time, saith the Lord, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of priest and the bones of prophets and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their GRAVES. They shall spread them before the SUN, the MOON, AND ALL THE HOST OF HEAVEN, whom they have LOVED.We have the description of the 1st resurrection, those who have heard the Lord's voice in their life time and entered into a covenant with the Lord here in Jeremiah 8:1-2 Jeremiah 8:3 God says they have chosen death instead of LIFE. The 2nd death is what they have chosen instead of Eternal life. This is where the number of the Gentiles coming in has to be met. This is another topic, but I wanted to add this in for it is truth. In Jeremiah 8:7 (last part) my people knoweth not the JUDGMENT OF THE LORD. 8:8) How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain. 8:9 The wise men are dismayed and TAKEN; lo, they have rejected the word of the Lord; and what wisdom is in them? The rest of this chapter speaks so much about the doom and the 2nd death that those who Jesus says in John 5:28-29 who have been resurrected to CONDEMNATION WILL FACE when they are resurrected to face the 2nd death. Jeremiah 8:20 The harvest has past, the summer has ended, and we are NOT SAVED. Jeremiah 8:13 I will surely CONSUME THEM, saith the Lord; there shall be no grapes on the vine, nor figs on the tree, and the leaf shall fade; the things that I have given them shall PASS AWAY FROM THEM. In this verse 13, there are the grapes , which are Christians included in this resurrection to face the 2nd death with the fig tree who is Israel. This is a very real and makes me tremble at the truth of what is close to coming to be in the very near resurrection of those who hear the Lord's voice. Does this come out clear to you as it has to me? Our teachers who say we have peace don't worry about God he forgives everything, well, he does if we have not profaned his name repeatedly and not repented for us to make a disgrace to the name we carry, we will be found guilty of this charge to be consumed to a 2nd death at the resurrection.

 

[Christina]

Only problem with this is you must be an over comer to make it to end to be of the first resurrected....Not subject to the second death Not by being flown away as men say but by overcoming until the End knowing who and when the fake christ is. Only the over comers will be first resurrected So that means anyone that isn't here to be over comer can not be of the first resurrected So according to rapture believers ... They can never be of the first resurrected so they are all subject to the second death so goes teaching of menGod's Word on the other hand says we will all be right here on earth so anyone who knows what God says about these things of the End times and Antichrist knows exactly what to expect and can be an over comer I dont know about you but I like Gods way it opens being part of the first resurrection to all who bother to read there fathers Word

 

[Vickie]

Only problem with this is you must be an over comer to make it to end to be of the first resurrected....Not subject to the second death Not by being flown away as men say but by overcoming until the End knowing who and when the fake christ is. Only the over comers will be first resurrected

Hi my dear sister! This area of the 2nd death is what I am searching in the bible to understand more about that happens at Christ's coming. This is one of those areas the Lord does speak about and I welcome your thoughts on this discussion. I am very much looking to see what the bible speaks about those who Hebrews 10:26-27 says will face a fearful expectation of judgment. These have defamed the name of God and have had the Holy Spirit. There are some verses on what God is going to do to them and I am seeking all the knowledge in it to understand better.

So that means anyone that isn't here to be over comer can not be of the first resurrected So according to rapture believers ... They can never be of the first resurrected so they are all subject to the second death so goes teaching of men

No, not necessarily like that. Though, this has to do with defaming God with our actions of deliberate wickedness and having the holy spirit, is what it seems to be talking about. I suppose one could say it would be also those who left their faith after knowing God and turning back to live their lives as they did before they came to KNOW the GOODNESS of God. Hebrews says this is an insult to the Spirit of Grace. Heb. 10:29. God says in verse 30 the Hebrews makes it clear it is God's right to avenge those and repay them who have done this at judgment. This is where the second death comes in at. They face God's wrath and the 2nd death, I believe the bible to be saying.

God's Word on the other hand says we will all be right here on earth so anyone who knows what God says about these things of the End times and Antichrist knows exactly what to expect and can be an over comer

That is what the promise is, for us to dwell on earth forever and ever in Jerusalem with Christ on the throne here.Paul speaks in 2 Thessalonians 1-2 about a great falling away, and those who are perishing will receive a delusion sent upon them. It seems with Paul's words that when this Son of Perdition is revealed a separation takes place at that point. Those who have been chosen by God and those who have been given over to a delusion. Which I think in my opinion is their taking the mark of the beast at that point. We all have our opinions in this event, but what I am seeking for in this topic is to find out more about the 2nd death when it occurs and those who face it. I think Jeremiah 8 speaks of the Jews and all who have been brought back to life to face the second death that went against God for in Jeremiah 8:20 they make the remark that the harvest has come and the summer is ended and they are not saved. They get up and they go into the city for they mention they are going to drink the cup of gall. The verses have been given to us to understand about this cup of God's wrath after the tribulation and we have been removed while this happens.

I dont know about you but I like Gods way it opens being part of the first resurrection to all who bother to read there fathers Word

Yes, me too, I like the words the bible speaks to us and we all only have to read it. We serve a good Lord who is coming to get the humble and the meek of the world, that love him.