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The Anti Christ a Jew?

Discussion in 'Eschatology & Prophecy Forum' started by jodycour, Jan 31, 2008.

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  1. Jerusalem Junkie

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    will someone please show me in which chapter and verse of Revelation the title "Antichrist" is used?
    Thats odd I just did a search in my Bible Program and it did not come up with it in Revelation only 1 John 2John and Acts............are we adding to it?
     
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    Its more of a title that is a type we use it somewhat loosely but a type always has a main source such as sacrificial lamb was a type of Christ.God uses types to teach the word Anti christ means instead of Christ there is only one that has always wanted to be God and that is Satan
     
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    Its more of a title that is a type we use it somewhat loosely but a type always has a main source such as sacrificial lamb was a type of Christ.God uses types to teach the word Anti christ means instead of Christ there is only one that has always wanted to be God and that is Satan
    I see. Works for me...
     
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    Prove it.
    Read scripture. The Muslims deny the deity of Christ. They say He was a prophet and a good teacher. They do not believe Jesus is who He and scripture says He is. On the other hand, The (so called) Vicar of Christ (The Pope) does not deny Christ, or that He was God. Let me ask you a couple questions. How has the enemy attacked the church? What are his habits? Is he smart and deceptive or, stupid and obvious?Read 1 John, what was John dealing with? Gnosticism! The teaching that flesh is evil, therefore, Jesus couldn't have come in the flesh and He was therefore a phantom. John addresses this false teaching which was one of the first Churches deadliest. Did this teaching (by the enemy) come in and deny Christ's deity? No, not by any means, it came in a more deceptive sneaky way. You cannot come into an established religion and deny it's god, it wont work. If the Muslims (who already have their established religion- and are an anti-Christ religion) were to try, anyone will notice. But for a religion who already is believed as a Christian religion? This is different, and quite deceptive. Many people will fall for it and follow him. Remember, in the last day there will be such a deception that if it were possible even the elect would be deceived.Well you did say prove it, I feel this is not enough proof for you. Thats ok, someday, perhaps in our lifetime you will see proof.
     
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    You gave a definition of satan in a post (yesterday??) that was exactly what a satan is. Why don't you stick with the definition you gave? Why turn around and define satan as some superhuman freak. That is being double minded.It is true that satan is a man (there is one place in the Bible he is a spirit) but it is NOT true that satan is one. There are many satans just as there are many antichrists.In the versus you listed vs 9 is saying that boasting to those that are going to kill him won't bother them a bit. They know he is but a man. vs 10 is pretty straight forward. One thing that can be determined from it is that the Israelites were not the slayers. The next versus you quote are telling the son of man to sing to the king his funeral song. (May be a little sarcasm??) As all ways Eze 28:19 is left out just as Isaiah 14:16 is never quoted. There is a reason for that, you know.You should do an in depth Bible study on satan. It is only used 56 times in the Bible, so it shouldn't take more than a couple of hours. Use the definitions you have, not those of the false doctrine. You might be surprised at what you will find.I will leave you with the following two scriptures and will be interested as towhich definition you apply.2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.Gary"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." 1980 Jewish Almanac, P.3
    Now this just about the most ridiculous rendering of this subject I have ever seen If you think this is biblical we are not reading the same book
     
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    I will leave you with the following two scriptures and will be interested as towhich definition you apply.
    2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
    Niether....I am with you Kriss, ridiculous...........
    2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
    This verse here is not even speaking of an Anti Christ...
     
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    Prove it.
    Prove it? How? If it happens in our lifetime you will have proof. To say the Antichrist must be a Jew, is a fabrication and is contrary to the word of GodTo say, the Antichrist will deny Christ. (I am not contradicting my previous post). The answer is, the Pope has always done this, and still does by way of his doctrines and institutions, just as the Jews made the commandment of God of none affect with their traditions. Mathew 15:6, he is not to honor his father or his mother.' And by this you invalidated the word of God for the sake of your tradition.1 Timothy 4:1-3, But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. Examine the entire world and ask yourself, "who has become apostate" concerning the faith and who forbids to eat. Who forbids both, male and female clergy to marry? Who forbids the eating of meat and eggs ect. on Fridays and during their seven weekly fasts? You will probably say, it is not written the antichrist will do all these things, therefore the Pope is not the antichrist. ---------------One thing for sure, he teaches the doctrines of devils. Scripture clearly states, the devil rules the antichrist, helps and empowers him. "And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority Revelation 13:2." "Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan 2 Thessalonians 2:9, that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders,--- If we consider these texts, we can see that the forbidding of marriage and the command to abstain from meat is the work of the antichrist.Is this not a deception? From within the Church (So called Christian Church).
     
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    Heres a few of the names rendered to Satan for those who do not know how to reconize them God uses names to depict differnt aspects of one personality. as in Christ the lamb,the savior, King of Kings he does the same with Satan ........................................................................................................ Abaddon Revelation 9:11 a destroying angel The accuser of our brethren Revelation 12:10 against one in the assembly, i.e. a complaintant at law; specially, Satan The adversary I Peter 5:8 an opponent (in a lawsuit); specially, Satan (as the arch-enemy) Apollyon Revelation 9:11 a destroyer (i.e. Satan) Beelzebub Matthew 12:24 Mark 3:22 Luke 11:15 dung-god; Beelzebul, a name of Satan Belial II Corinthians 6:15 worthlessness; Belial, as an epithet of Satan the Devil Matthew 4:1 a traducer; specially, Satan: false accuser, devil, slanderer. dragon Revelation 12:9 and 20:2 probably from an alternate form of derkomai (to look); a fabulous kind of serpent (perhaps as supposed to fascinate) the enemy Matthew 13:39 from a primary echtho (to hate); hateful (passively, odious, or actively, hostile); usually as a noun, an adversary (especially Satan) father of all lies John 8:44 a falsifier god of this world II Corinthians 4:4 god is used generically and refers to Satan king of Babylon Isaiah 14:4 confusion; Babel (i.e. Babylon), including Babylonia and the Babylonian empire king of Tyrus Ezekiel 28:12 a rock; Tsor, a place in Palestine. Satan is the false rock. Christ is the true Rock. little horn Daniel 7:8 a horn (as projecting); by implication, a flask, cornet; by resembl. an elephant's tooth (i.e. ivory), a corner (of the altar), a peak (of a mountain), a ray (of light); figuratively, power Lucifer Isaiah 14:12 (in the sense of brightness); the morning star: lucifer (the king of Babylon). Satan is the false morning star. Christ is the true morning Star. man of sin II Thessalonians 2:3 Satan was the first to sin. See Ezekiel 28:11-19 that old serpent Revelation 12:9 and 20:2 old = original or primevalserpent = (through the idea of sharpness of vision); a snake, figuratively (as a type of sly cunning) an artful malicious person, especially Satan power of darkness Colossians 1:13 "shade" or a shadow (literally or figuratively [darkness of error or an adumbration]) prince of the power of the air Ephesians 2:2 prince = a first (in rank or power)power = privilege, i.e. (subjectively) force, capacity, competency, freedom, or (objectively) mastery (concretely, magistrate, superhuman, potentate, token of control), delegated influence prince that shall come Daniel 9:26 a commander (as occupying the front), civil, military or religious; generally (abstractly, plural), honorable themes. See II Thessalonians 2:3-4 and Revelation 12:7-9 prince of Tyrus Ezekiel 28:2 a rock; Tsor, a place in Palestine. Satan is the false rock. Christ is the true Rock. prince of this world John 12:31 prince = a first (in rank or power)world = orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]) rulers of the darkness of this world Ephesians 6:12 rulers = a world-ruler, an epithet of Satandarkness = shadiness, i.e. obscurity (literally or figuratively) Satan Job 1:6 an opponent; especially (with the article prefixed) Satan, the arch-enemy of good. serpent Genesis 3:1 properly, to hiss, i.e. whisper a (magic) spell; generally, to prognosticate son of perdition John 17:12II Thessalonians 2:3 ruin or loss (physical, spiritual or eternal) also to destroy fully (reflexively, to perish, or lose), literally or figuratively the tempter Matthew 4:3 to test (objectively), i.e. endeavor, scrutinize, entice, discipline the wicked one Matthew 13:19 hurtful, i.e. evil (properly, in effect or influence) figuratively, calamitous; also (passively) ill, i.e. diseased; but especially (morally) culpable, i.e. derelict, vicious, facinorous; neuter (singular) mischief, malice, or (plural) guilt; masculine (singular) the devil, or (plural) sinners
     
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    It is true that satan is a man (there is one place in the Bible he is a spirit) but it is NOT true that satan is one. There are many satans just as there are many antichrists.In the versus you listed vs 9 is saying that boasting to those that are going to kill him won't bother them a bit. They know he is but a man.vs 10 is pretty straight forward. One thing that can be determined from it is that the Israelites were not the slayers.The next versus you quote are telling the son of man to sing to the king his funeral song. (May be a little sarcasm??)As all ways Eze 28:19 is left out just as Isaiah 14:16 is never quoted. There is a reason for that, you know.You should do an in depth Bible study on satan. It is only used 56 times in the Bible, so it shouldn't take more than a couple of hours. Use the definitions you have, not those of the false doctrine. You might be surprised at what you will find.I will leave you with the following two scriptures and will be interested as towhich definition you apply.2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

    there are many antichrists.
    Any non believer could be an Anti Christ.....
    2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
    This verse irrevelant because it is G-d speaking to David not Satan.
    1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.
    This verse is only a repeat of 2 Sam 24:1 with the exception that it is Satan doing the speaking and trying to deceive David by using the same means G-d did in 2 Sam....
     
  10. Jackie D

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    Two Quote:Originally Posted by Jackie D will someone please show me in which chapter and verse of Revelation the title "Antichrist" is used? Thats odd I just did a search in my Bible Program and it did not come up with it in Revelation only 1 John 2John and Acts............are we adding to it?
    I think more than anything Two it is a misunderstanding of the word itself. You are right 1st and 2nd John are the only books that mention antichrist when I did a search on the word.
    Two Quote:Originally Posted by kriss Its more of a title that is a type we use it somewhat loosely but a type always has a main source such as sacrificial lamb was a type of Christ.God uses types to teach the word Anti christ means instead of Christ there is only one that has always wanted to be God and that is Satan I see. Works for me...
    It doesn't work though...let's look at what antichrist is.
    1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the* Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 1Jo 4:3 and every spirit that does not confess that* Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. 2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ [as] coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
    Antichrist is a spirit of darkness, yes. But it is not described as the beast. It is described as anything that is in emnity toward God and denies Christ. We anytime we are steeped in sin, we our flesh is in emnity with God...at those times even we, our flesh, is of the antichrist spirit.The beast, is who is coming. The antichrist is among us even today, many many millions of those who carry the spirit of antichrist. It is actually more of a type of the Holy Spirit. For the spirit manifests itself and dwells within. Teaching to hate God the Father, Christ the Son, and the Spirit of God. In Revelation we see the manifestation of the spirit of antichrist in everything that is spoken of regarding the condition of the world and people..But the beast is the father of the unholy trinity-three frogs
    Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [coming] out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
    (dragon, beast and false prophet= unholy trinity)
    Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast [which was] full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. Rev 17:8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.* Rev 17:11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
    this is simply my understanding of the enemy Satan and the manifestation of him in the last days. To look at this in the sense of the spiritual rather than a sense of the physical seems much more likely to me, considering that most of what will happen during the end times will not be seen by the naked eye, but discerned by the "signs" and the knowing we receive by the Holy Spirit. I am unable to consider the spirit of antichrist as an opposing type of Christ...
     
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    Satan(antichrist) has many names used to show his chacter he is the beast, the false prophet, the dragon, the father of lies. because he was filled with pride and wanted to be God,because he will set himself up as god. To rule the beast system and comit the abomination of Daniel we have given him the title Antichrist. most people think Antichrist is a man All Im saying is God tells us that Satan is that man and yes it absoultly fits down to every detail.First you have to understand all the names that God calls Satan.see post #88
     
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    Satan(antichrist) has many names used to show his chacter he is the beast, the false prophet, the dragon, the father of lies. because he was filled with pride and wanted to be God,because he will set himself up as god. To rule the beast system and comit the abomination of Daniel we have given him the title Antichrist. most people think Antichrist is a man All Im saying is God tells us that Satan is that man and yes it absoultly fits down to every detail.First you have to understand all the names that God calls Satan.see post #88
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    This truly has been a good debate!I've learned a lot from this!My apoligy if I've offended any Jewish people here!That was not my intent! I love the Jewish people and I'm an adopted Jew myself!I was only thinking on these lines because in the Tribulation period the Jews will have the temple rebuilt and animal sacrifices will be taking place the Anti-Christ will make a contract with them and will break it in 3 1/2 years. He will put a statue of himself in the temple and it will be the abomination that Revelation talks about.This is where I got the idea because to me it seems like the word Anti-Christ means someone pretending to be the messiah!
     
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    It is someone pretending to messiah the same one that has always wanted to be Messiah that is lucifer himself, not a Jew and its not a statue he sets up thats a problem he literly declares himself to be God this is mid tribulation and this acts will cause the Jews and many christains to realize that this the antichrist Then those that deny him (antichrist) will be put on trail Mark 13:11this is when the 1/2 hour of silence in heaven of Rev. stops and God and the Saints that are with him those that died for his name sake (ready themselves for war P.S.And no Jody my friend these saints are already there under the alter crying out How long Lord I wont say more
     
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    "I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and know that no lie is of the truth. Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. He who confesses the Son has the Father also." (1 John 2:21-23 RSV)Christians have long wondered about the end-time Biblical antichrist. Who is he going to be? What is he going to do?The word antichrist is derived from the original New Testament Greek word pronounced antichristos, which means someone who opposes, and/or takes the place of, the true Messiah.Although the "spirit of the antichrist" (1 John 4:3) has been around for a very long time, and there were relatively minor examples of antichrists long ago (1 John 2:18-19), the ultimate end-time antichrist, identified variously as the "lawless one" or "man of sin" (2 Thessalonians 2:9) or "beast" (all of Revelation 13) is going to be more evil and more incredibly powerful (made possible by That Old Serpent) than any human that has ever existed. In a way, he will be the embodiment of Satan himself because no one is more anti-Christ than Satan.For centuries, many have believed that a certain great, highly popular religious leader will be the antichrist. Although the idea has much superficial merit, it does not fit all of the stated facts in Bible Prophecy. While the antichrist will have his own extremely powerful and influential Great False Prophet, a role that will be filled by a very important religious leader, the actual antichrist will be a great, for a time undefeatable, military leader, who, like Satan, will not accept anything less than a leading role - the motive behind Satan's rebellion long ago (see Did God Create The Devil?). However, both of them will be judged equally guilty, and both will be cast alive into the lake of fire after the Return of Christ (Revelation 19:20).Let's look at what The Bible actually says about them, with our own notes in brackets -The antichrist will be a great military leader: "Men worshiped the dragon [that is, Satan] because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?" "The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months [the same forty-two months in which The Two Witnesses will be active]. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander His Name and His dwelling place and those who live in heaven. He was given power to make war against The Saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation [he will conquer countries all around the world]. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast [many will be deceived into worshiping the man] - all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to The Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. He who has an ear, let him hear." (Revelation 13:4-9 NIV)The antichrist's false prophet: "Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb [he appears righteous - a lamb is the symbol of Christ], but he spoke like a dragon [a dragon is one of the symbols of Satan]." "He exercised all the authority of the first beast [the political leader] on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast [the great religious leader will take a secondary role to the political leader], whose fatal wound had been healed [the Roman empire has "fallen" and come back to life a number of times]. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men [he is going to put on quite a show to convince people]." "Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image [the political ruler is the one who will demand worship, not his powerful and influential religious ally who will merely be serving as his "prophet"] to be killed." "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666." (Revelation 13:11-18 NIV)This study was done by Wayne Blank
     
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    The Anti Christ a Jew?
    Daniel says he will not regard the God (singular) of his fathers. He will be allowed to sit in the temple, declaring himself to be God, which he couldn't do unless he was a Jewish.
     
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    Wrong veiw he will be declaring himself God/messiah of this world not of just Jews
     
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    Wrong veiw he will be declaring himself God/messiah of this world not of just Jews
    Absolutely incorrect! Antichrist does NOT mean falsechrist. In 1 John 2:18What is John doing? John is teaching. What is John teaching? John is teaching against FALSE TEACHERS. These false teachers were trying to teach that a singular, big daddy, antichrist is about to come. John says do not listen to them. Why? "....even now have there arisen many antichrists": This is thesingular verses the plural. Read vs 26. John says his reason for writing to them is to warn them about those who want to lead them astray. The first use of the word antichrist in 1 John 2:18 does not have the article and is therefore a proper name. Absent the article it can only have one of two meanings. It can mean, one who stands AGAINST Christ, or, one who stands INSTEAD of Christ. So, which one is it, stands against, or, stands instead of?The answer is not free choice. One can not arbitrarily pick a position because that is what they believe or that "it sounds good". One must let the context determine the correct meaning. If you don't, and chose the "wrong" position you are guilty of exactly what John is teaching here, which is being a false teacher. The context is found in vs 22, where the word of God supplies the definition for an antichrist. "Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus isthe Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son". And, to make absolutely sure there is no misconception as to the meaning of antichrist, God reiterates in the very next verse! For one to add to, or take away from God's own definition to appease their own beliefs is absolutely ludicrous.In verse 19, you are witnessing a church split. Those of the singular antichrist persuasion are sent packing and those that were, "....rightly dividing the wordof truth". (2 Ti 2:15), stayed.God says, "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. (1 John 2:23)"This is not an uncommon impression and one finds it sometimes among Jews as well as Christians - that Judaism is the religion of the Hebrew Bible. It is, of course, a fallacious impression. Judaism is not the religion of the Bible." Rabbi Ben Zion Bokser "Judaism and the Christian Predicament" (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1967) p. 59:Gary
     
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    Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Oh my Judas repented himself good heavens,..... you might think he was foriven for Christ himself knew this had to be doneand I always thought Christ died for all sins of men. and Ive read your post on Jewish alminac 4 times now I use term for clairity no to be tecnically correct so you dont have to keep posting it[/QUOTE]Oh my, no he DID NOT! I would suggest you check the meaning of the Greek verb used to translate repented in Mt 27:3.CHAPTER 27 (Vincent, Vol 1, p 170)3. Repented himself. See on Matthew 21:29.What is that to us? They ignore the question of Christ’s innocence. As to Judas’ sin or conscience, that is his matter. Thou wilt see to that.Mt 21:29 (Vincent, Vol 1, p 116, 117)29. Repented This is a different word from that in Matthew 3:2; 4:17; metanoei~te, Repent ye. Though it is fairly claimed that the word here implies all that is implied in the other word, the New Testament writers evidently recognize a distinction, since the noun which corresponds to the verb in this passage (metame>leia) is not used at all in the New Testament, and the verb itself only five times; and, in every case except the two in this passage (see ver. 32), with a meaning quite foreign to repentance in the ordinary gospel sense. Thus it is used of Judas, when he brought back the thirty pieces (Matthew 27:3); of Paul’s not regretting his letter to the Corinthians (2 Corinthians 7:8); and of God (Hebrews 7:21). On the other hand, metanoe>w, repent, used by John and Jesus in their summons to repentance (Matthew 3:2; 4:17), occurs thirty-four times, and the noun meta>noia, repentance (Matthew 3:8,11), twenty-four times, and in every case with reference to that change of heart and life wrought by the Spirit of God, to which remission of sins and salvation are promised. It is not impossible, therefore, that the word in this passage may have been intended to carry a different shade of meaning, now lost to us.Metame>lomaii, as its etymology indicates (meta>, after, and me>lw, to bean object of care), implies an after-care, as contrasted with the change ofmind denoted by meta>noia. Not sorrow for moral obliquity and sinagainst God, but annoyance at the consequences of an act or course ofacts, and chagrin at not having known better. “It may be simply what ourfathers were wont to call hadiwist (had-I-wist, or know better, I shouldhave acted otherwise)” (Trench). Metame>leia refers chiefly to singleacts; meta>noia denotes the repentance which affects the whole life. Hencethe latter is often found in the imperative: Repent ye (Matthew 3:2; 4:;17;Acts 2:38; 3:19); the former never. Paul’s recognition of the distinction (2Corinthians 7:10) is noteworthy. “Godly sorrow worketh repentance(meta>noian) unto salvation,” a salvation or repentance “which bringeth noregret on thinking of it afterwards” (ajmetame>lhton). There is no occasionfor one ever to think better of either his repentance or the salvation inwhich it issued.2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew." "Identity Crisis," The Jewish Almanac, compiled and edited by Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins (New York, NY: Bantam Books, 0-553-01265-7, 1980) p. 3.Gary
     
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    My understanding is that the antichrist was expected to come from the tribe of Dan. This belief that predated the time of Christ was an outgrowth of Gen 49:16-17. Then in Rev 7 the tribe of Dan is not listed in the 144000 of chapter 7. samy
     
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