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The Birth Of Christ - (December 25Th)?

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    The Birth of Christ - (December 25th)?

    The Birth of Christ- Was it (December 25th)???

    "Christmas" is a part of "Christianity". ........But not the way most believe.

    Forget the "Decorated tree", or the "Birth" of "Messiah", both have nothing to do with what is Really True about December 25th.

    -But something Quite remarkable did happen on that day Near Two-Thousand years ago.


    And here goes...

    Let's Start this Lesson In the Book of "(Luke)".
    Subject :"The Course of Abia".

    ...Luke 1:5 THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, [ of the course of "Abia" ] and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

    ...Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

    ...Luke 1:7 And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were now well stricken in years.

    ...Luke 1:8 And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God
    [ in the order of his "course" ],

    ...Luke 1:9 According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.

    The "Course of Abia" set a Definite Time on the Actual (BIRTH of JESUS), As well as "John the Baptist".

    It is used as a Marker for a starting point, ..to this "Blessed Event".

    [Question] (Where do we Look to find out about these "Courses")?

    [Answer] (1Chronicles 24:1-19)

    Below shows the Different "Courses" ,

    ....(Referred to as Divisions).

    ......There are "Twenty-Four" Courses (Divisions)in All.

    Strong's # 4256 .......(Divisions)
    "machaloqeth" [makh-al-o'-keth] from 2505; a section
    (of Levites, people or soldiers):--company,
    ==>(course), <==
    ==> (division), <==
    portion. See also 5555.

    1Chronicles 24:1 Now these are the "divisions" of the sons of Aaron. The sons of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

    1Chronicles 24:2 But Nadab and Abihu died before their father, and had no children: therefore Eleazar and Ithamar executed the priest's office.

    1Chronicles 24:3 And David distributed them, both Zadok of the sons of Eleazar, and Ahimelech of the sons of Ithamar, according to their offices in their service.

    1Chronicles 24:4 And there were more chief men found of the sons of Eleazar than of the sons of Ithamar, and thus were they divided. Among the sons of Eleazar there were sixteen chief men of the house of their fathers, and eight among the sons of Ithamar according to the house of their fathers.

    1Chronicles 24:5 Thus were they divided by lot, one sort with another; for the governors of the sanctuary, and governors of the house of God, were of the sons of Eleazar, and of the sons of Ithamar.

    1Chronicles 24:6 And Shemaiah the son of Nethaneel the scribe, one of the Levites, wrote them before the king, and the princes, and Zadok the priest, and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar, and before the chief of the fathers of the priests and Levites: one principal household being taken for Eleazar, and one taken for Ithamar.

    1Chronicles 24:7 Now the first lot came forth to Jehoiarib, the second to Jedaiah,

    1Chronicles 24:8 The third to Harim, the fourth to Seorim,

    1Chronicles 24:9 The fifth to Malchijah, the sixth to Mijamin,

    1Chronicles 24:10 The seventh to Hakkoz, the eighth to Abijah,

    1Chronicles 24:11 The ninth to Jeshuah, the tenth to Shecaniah,

    1Chronicles 24:12 The eleventh to Eliashib, the twelfth to Jakim,

    1Chronicles 24:13 The thirteenth to Huppah, the fourteenth to Jeshebeab,

    1Chronicles 24:14 The fifteenth to Bilgah, the sixteenth to Immer,

    1Chronicles 24:15 The seventeenth to Hezir, the eighteenth to Aphses,

    1Chronicles 24:16 The nineteenth to Pethahiah, the twentieth to Jehezekel,

    1Chronicles 24:17 The one and twentieth to Jachin, the two and twentieth to Gamul,

    1Chronicles 24:18 The three and twentieth to Delaiah, the four and twentieth to Maaziah.

    1Chronicles 24:19 These were the orderings of them in their service to come into the house of the LORD, according to their manner, under Aaron their father, as the LORD God of Israel had commanded him.

    .....About these Priests-

    …...There were 24 Priests who were to "Serve" during certain times of the year in the (Temple).

    Each Priest had One Week of service during their "Course", and they served (Two Times in the year), or "Six Months apart", to fulfill these Duties of the Priest.

    (From Sabbath to Sabbath).

    This equals 48 weeks.

    (Note): The few Remaining Weeks in the year.
    All Priests were to Serve During The Special Feast Days (Such as "Passover",
    "Feast of Tabernacles", "Day of Atonement", "Etc").


    The "first Course" (Jehoiarib's) started a week after the "Feast of Tabernacles".

    "Abia" (Abijah's) Course was the "Eighth Course". So this would set the dates at December and June for these "Courses", or Duties to be Fulfilled by an Appointed Priest (Son of Aaron).

    "Zacharias"(John the Baptist's Father) was serving the Duties of (Abia) and that Course and duties.

    This was the "Second Part" or Duty of that Course- (June 13-19) of that year
    (Luke 1:8-9).

    (Luke 1:23)Zacharias had to wait a day because you could not travel on the Sabbath Day long distances.

    And by the time Zacharias returned home it was a total of four days later or June 24
    (One day layover for Sabbath + Three days Journey home).

    So Elisabeth conceived on that day, after Zachariah returned home on (June 24).

    ...Luke 1:23 And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

    ...Luke 1:24 And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,

    ...Luke 1:25 Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men.

    ...Luke 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

    What is being said is This Period of time is "Six Months" from the Date that Gabriel "Originally" spoke to Zacharias.

    That would make this "Our" Month of December, ...(June to December = 6 months:).

    Six Months After (Luke 1:26), "Gabriel" visited "The Blessed Mary"(This would be December 24/25).

    And Announced to Her that "She" would Conceive "Messiah" (Luke 1:31).

    So "(December Twenty-Fifth)" is the date of the "Conception of "JESUS CHRIST", (Our Lord and Savior). - not Birth:)

    So what about December 25th, It is an Important date indeed.

    (Gathering the world together in a celebration of HIS LIFE, on any day), - is a good work.

    Since DECEMBER 25th seems to be this day, to celebrate the LORD'S Birth, so be it.

    And "Add to this date "Nine-Months", and the (Birth+Date) of "JESUS/Messiah" is approx, [and believed to be] - September 29th, which would be, within The (Feast of Tabernacles) time-frame.

    know the facts , (And take them forth), in LOVE. -If you are led to.

    Not to cause others Grief on this day, but to share it in the TRUE SPIRIT of LOVE
    and TRUTH , (As the LORD DESIRES).



    Some people wonder when Life begins....

    Within the Scriptures, we have PROOF, - that Life Begins at Conception.

    I will only Interject when needed to help the thought along.

    Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

    Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

    Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

    Luke 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

    Luke 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

    Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

    Luke 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

    Luke 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

    Luke 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

    -"Below it says Mary arose in those days"....

    What is being said is Immediately Mary arose and went to her cousin Elisabeth's house to see her:)

    ...With haste - That "Same Day"......(with speed)

    Luke 1:39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;

    Luke 1:40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.

    Luke 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

    Luke 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.

    John Lept within Elisabeth's womb because Mary was Already With-Child or Pregnant, (Because of THIS IMMACULATE CONCEPTION).

    ...The Baby "Lept" Because he Felt the "HOLY+SPIRIT" from The "Fertilized Egg", (within the The Blessed Mary's Womb).

    So Life does begin At Conception...

    (Though I am sure most Christians already knew this to be True).

    You have been presented with the Facts about this joyful Date in History:)

    The Conception Date is Very Important for "All Christians" to Celebrate.

    The Conception of "Immanuel", which means ("GOD" With US),......was (December The 25th).

    And this is a DAY to CELEBRATE The day GOD began dwelling with MAN.


    Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

    What is being said is not of his Birth (Sign).

    "CHRIST" was a Virgo. - (Using a Solar Calendar) Born of the sign of the Virgin.

    The Lion of the Tribe of Judah is merely making reference to the HIS Throne , (And HIS Kingship)...

    "CHRIST" is of the Tribe of Judah, (Of the seed of David). The Tribe of Judah / was the King Line. But "CHRIST" was Only One/Half of the Tribe of Judah.

    "CHRIST" was also One/Half of the Tribe of Levi (The Levitical Priest line).

    Elisabeth was married to Zacharias who was a Levitical Priest. Only an Full Blood Levite woman can marry a Levitical Priest. That is the LAW.

    And These Two were Obeying the LAW, - (Perfectly).

    Luke 1:5 THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest
    named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron,
    and her name was Elisabeth.

    Luke 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord ===> blameless. <===

    Elisabeth was Mary's 1st Cousin. ...Mary's Mother, was Elisabeth's , Mother's , "Sister".
    ......Got that:) .. So Mary's Mother was also a full blood Levite. ..So this makes Mary, Half Levite.

    But Mary's Father Heli, was a full Blood "JEW" (Son of Judah), of the direct seed-line of David.
    ......(Luke chapter Three, Shows this fact)

    So "CHRIST" is: (1/2 Levite and 1/2 Judahite).

    "1/2-KING-LINE / 1/2-PRIESTLINE"...


    ....The Name and what "HIS" title actually Means:)

    Priest and KING of the MOST HIGH. WHO do you think this ONE, - (REALLY IS)?
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