The Born again : Not workers of iniquity.

[Behold]

The "worker of iniquity".... the idea here is....to live in sin because you have no other lifestyle, or no other way to exist.
This is the unbeliever, the non-born again..

Notice the word "iniquity".......so, that is the word "sin", or = a sinner..

So the context is.....a worker, or a lifestyle of a SINNER....... = A sinner is not born again.

A born again person, is not a sinner, they are a SAINT......they have left the realm of the natural and are born again into God's Spirit, and in Him, "in Christ"...= there is no iniquity found.
See, when God looks at a child of God, He only sees His Righteousness that they have become as "the gift of Righteousness".
God will never see you any other way, if you are born again.

If you are not, then you are here ... John 3:36

So, this is why when a Christian behaves badly, .. Paul says we are committing : "works of the Flesh".

Well, works of the flesh are SIN, if you are a sinner......and a sinner is defined as someone who is under the dominion of the law, which is defining their deeds, their carnal lifestyle as "sinner". = They are NOT Born again.

This does not apply to someone who is born again, as all their SIN is on Jesus, who became their/ our sin and died.... which is full payment due US.
Saint, the reason you will only meet God as your Father, is because Jesus's blood, death and resurrection, this Blood Atonement, has made you eternally forgiven which is why God is able to give you the "New Birth", into Himself....."God is A Spirit". and you were birthed into the Spirit of God by the Holy Spirit, which is to become "one with God"....>"in Christ"....>"made righteous"..
This is : Born again.

So, only an unbeliever can live in iniquity, as its only an unbeliever who can be defined by the law, as a SINNER.

WE, the born again, can't be defined by the Law, as it has no power or dominion over us anymore, in God's perspective, and that is why Romans 4:8. and 2 Corinthians 5:19 were put in the NT for you by Paul.
Study...
The Born again are defined by "under GRACE".....and this dominion of Grace eternally defines the born again, as "in Christ", "justified by faith", having "The Gift of Righteousness".
So, if you are born again, and are not just water baptized and very religious.......and are returned to your old carnal habits, then you are as Paul defines...."committing works of the flesh", and are categorized as a "backslider".., and probably your faith is stone cold, dormant, and your discipleship is defined by James as "dead faith".
See, an unbeliever can't be defined as backslidden, as they have never had the born again experience to begin with...
But a believer can be defined as a backslider., even to the point of being "fallen from Grace" and having a "shipwrecked faith".
And remember, "dead faith" is not related to being born again, as being born again has already been completed.
So, "dead faith" only has to do with walking the walk of discipleship, that is separate from Salvation that God has given you as "the Gift of Salvation" that is proven by the fact that you are born again.

Saint, hear me now.....= being born again, is the only real proof of Salvation, as "fruit" can be faked.
The Devil's ministers fake having spiritual fruit 24/7.
They do it on Forums, they do it in Pulpits, and they do it as Preachers, Ministers, ect.
You have to learn how to hear a deceiver, or you will be led into deception by them and they will ruin your faith, and have you trying to keep yourself saved.

So what is the difference between a sinner sinning and a believer committing works of the flesh?
First, the unbeliever is under the law and the born again CHRISTian is "Under Grace".
Also, the sinner is going to hell.
The born again Believer is not.

Another difference is, that God is going to deal with the wayward child of God, according to Hebrews 12:6, and this does not happen to an unbeliever.
What happens to them, is that they "reap what they sow"..."be sure your sin will find you out".....only.

 

[FaithWillDo]

The "worker of iniquity".... the idea here is....to live in sin because you have no other lifestyle, or no other way to exist.
This is the unbeliever, the non-born again..

Notice the word "iniquity".......so, that is the word "sin", or = a sinner..

So the context is.....a worker, or a lifestyle of a SINNER....... = A sinner is not born again.

Dear Behold,
The "church" consists of believers who have received the Early Rain of the Spirit. This is the Holy Spirit of Promise (Eph 1:13-14) and is what gives an unbeliever a measure of faith. Upon receiving the Early Rain, the person will be "called out from the world" and will enter the church.

However, the Early Rain of the Spirit does not convert a person so as to produce the new birth. This is true because the Early Rain is ONLY a down payment of the full amount which is given later with the Latter Rain of the Spirit. Because the Early Rain is only given in measure, it will not destroy the person's carnality. It is mankind's carnality which causes them to be spiritually blind. Because of the new believer's remaining spiritual blindness, Christ does not "appear" to them. In other words, the truth of Christ as it is revealed in scripture remains hidden. Christ taught this truth in Mat 12:43-45.

Because the new believer is spiritually blind, it enables Satan to deceive the believer. Shortly after the believer receives the Early Rain, Satan will come to them and plant his "seed" (Parable of the Wheat and the Tares) within them. The seed is the spirit of anti-Christ. With the spirit of anti-Christ within the new believer, they will accept Satan's false truth as being the truth of Christ. After the believer receives this false truth, they will "fall away" and will no longer be under grace. They will be like the unbelievers who are under Law. In this spiritual condition, they will become a "worker of iniquity" and a man of sin.

The story of the woman taken in adultery teaches when a person comes out from being under the Law.

John 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

In the first three verses of the story, a woman is said to have been caught in the act of adultery. This event “typed” when Adam & Eve were caught in the act of adultery with Satan in the Garden of Eden.

The woman was then delivered to the Pharisees who were responsible for the administration of the Law. The Law says that the penalty for her adultery is death. When Adam & Eve committed adultery in the Garden of Eden, they, too, were judged by the Law and were given the penalty of death (both spiritual and physical).

However, since Christ is now ready to restore His marriage relationship with the woman, He will gather her with “great mercies”:

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. 6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. 7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.

The story continues in verse 6:

John 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

Christ’s act of writing in the ground represents Him pouring out the Early Rain of the Spirit on the woman. By doing this, He is writing His Law of the Spirit in her heart.

This verse applies:

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

The verse above is referring to the New Covenant of Grace through Faith which is Christ’s spiritual covenant. Under the New Covenant, Christ will perform all the necessary “works” to restore the woman to Himself. And since it is a spiritual covenant, He will write his Law of the Spirit in the heart of the woman.

John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.

After Christ first writes in the earth, the Pharisees continue to accuse the woman. They do this because the woman still remains under the Law after having received the Early Rain of the Spirit. She remains under the Law because the Early Rain is not sufficient to stop her from committing adultery with Satan. In other words, she does not have the ability to approach Christ strictly by faith alone yet. She is still compelled by her carnal nature and the deceptions of Satan to mix in her own “works” with faith. She tries to serve two masters, both Satan and Christ (Mat 6:24).

By continuing in her adultery, she falls away from faith and remains under the Law. For this reason, the Pharisees do not drop their stones but continue to accuse her.

John 8: 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

In verse 8, Christ stoops down a second time and writes His Law of the Spirit in the heart of the woman again. This act represents the Latter Rain of the Spirit.

It is at this point that Christ heals the woman’s spiritual blindness and she comes out from Satan’s deceptions. At this time, she begins to walk by faith alone and as a result, the Law can no longer accuse her. After this change from the Old Covenant of Law to the New Covenant of Grace through Faith, the Pharisees drop their stones and leave.

The woman (the Elect) has now been made into a Chaste Virgin again and is ready for the wedding to take place. After the wedding takes place, the woman’s marriage relationship with Christ is restored.

Joe

 

[Behold]

The woman (the Elect) has now been made into a Chaste Virgin again and is ready for the wedding to take place. After the wedding takes place, the woman’s marriage relationship with Christ is restored.

The born again are already ""in Christ."""
This is "ONE with God"... Married already.
Christ is coming for His Bride, not to marry her.
A "Bride' is already married., The "Church" is the Bride. This is the "body of Christ". The born again.

Born again = "Bride of Christ" = Married.

 

[FaithWillDo]

The born again are already ""in Christ."""
This is "ONE with God"... Married already.
Christ is coming for His Bride, not to marry her.
A "Bride' is already married., The "Church" is the Bride. This is the "body of Christ". The born again.

Born again = "Bride of Christ" = Married.

Dear Behold,
The "Elect" are the Bride. They have been called out from the world (Early Rain) and then chosen from the church (Latter Rain).

Mat 22:14 For many are called (the church), but few are chosen (the Elect).

The marriage occurs when an Elect believer receives the Latter Rain of the Spirit. This is when the believer is "born again" and when they are gathered together with Christ in heaven (spiritually speaking).

To be saved, a person must be given BOTH the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit.

Jam 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receives the EARLY and LATTER RAIN. 8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.

The first time Christ comes to a person, He gives them the Early Rain of the Spirit. This event is what calls an unbeliever out from the world and into the church. It is at this time that the person are given a measure of faith and an "earnest" amount of the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13-14). This is the same event Paul experienced on the Damascus Road when he first called Jesus "Lord".

Later, if the person is also "chosen", Christ will "come again" to the person and give them the Latter Rain of the Spirit. This is what Paul experienced after he was in Damascus for three days. During those three days, Paul was "blind" (represents his spiritual blindness) and could not eat or drink (represents not being able to consume Christ's bread or His New Wine). After the three days were complete, the pathway for Christ was made "straight" (represents Paul's repentance from works). Ananias (represents Christ) then came to Paul and poured out the Latter Rain of the Spirit. Paul's scales immediately fell off his eyes and he was baptized in water. Afterward, Paul was told to "eat meat" (represents the truth of Christ).

Here is another story which teaches the TWO coming of Christ to a person. However, instead of teaching when a person comes out from being under the Law like the story of the woman taken in adultery did, it teaches when a person's spiritual blindness is healed.

Mark 8:15 And he charged them, saying, take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod. 16 And they reasoned among themselves, saying, it is because we have no bread. 17 And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? 18 Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember? 19 When I broke the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve. 20 And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven. 21 And he said unto them, how is it that ye do not understand?

In these verses, Christ is giving His disciples a lesson on the spiritual language of God's Word - His language. At this point in time (before they were converted at Pentecost), the disciples had not yet received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit (Latter Rain) and because of such, they were still spiritually blind. They had been called out from the world (as was the whole Nation of Israel), but they still could not understand what Christ was teaching them. After Christ’s short lesson, He ends it by asking them this question: “How is it that ye do not understand”? No response from the Apostles is recorded in scripture. However, Christ answers His own question in the very next four verses.

Mark 8:22 And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. 23 And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. 24 And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. 25 After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.

Since Christ is the Word of God, He teaches us not only through His words which are recorded in scripture but also by the things He did. In answering the question that He proposed to the disciples in verse 21, Christ goes to Bethsaida and gives us His answer in type by the healing of a blind man. This type is the same type which Christ uses with the Old Testament events to teach His spiritual truths.

In verse 23, Christ leads a blind man out of the city. Once outside the city, Christ places spit on his eyes and touches him with His hands. These actions occur as the blind man is looking down which symbolizes the carnal aspect of His healing. Christ does not have to tell the blind man to look down, the blind man just does it naturally. The spit (water) symbolizes the blind man receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit with its accompanying vision (understanding). This event represents the time when an unbeliever is called out from the world and enters the church. After Christ asks the man what he could see, the man looks up and says that he could see men walking as trees. "Walking as Trees" is a spiritual symbol for called out believers who walk by sight rather than by faith. At this point, the blind man is a type of a called out believer. The man’s blindness was not total any longer but he was still very near-sighted.

This first healing of the blind man reflects the true spiritual condition of a new believer when they first enter the church. At that time, they are left carnally minded and spiritually near-sighted. They can see a little but that only opens the door to Satan's deceptions - deceptions which each new believer readily accepts due to their carnal nature still being in control of them.

Peter says this near-sighted condition is the same as being blind:

2Pet 1:9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

In the final verse of the story, Christ lays His hands upon the man’s eyes again, but as He does, Christ has the man look up instead of down. This second healing represents the Latter Rain of the Spirit when true spiritual vision is given to the believer. The man’s upward gaze represents the spiritual aspect of the healing in contrast to the carnal aspect when the blind man was looking down at the earth. From that moment onward, we now know that the blind man is a type of a called and chosen believer who has received both the Early and Latter Rains. He has been given eyes that can see. From his new ability to understand God's Word, he will then come out from Satan's deceptions and will begin walking by faith. He will be included in the resurrection of the First Fruits and will receive life during the ages.

Scripture teaches that it takes BOTH the Early Rain of the Spirit (being called out) and the Latter Rain of the Spirit (new birth, marriage) to be saved. It is frequently taught in scripture but it is taught in Christ's spiritual language so as to keep it concealed.

Joe

 

[Behold]

To be saved, a person must be given BOTH the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit.

Im curious.

No mainline denomination teaches anything about "latter rain" as The Gospel.
Yet you do. So, as you are not affiliated with Mainline Protestantism, or Catholicism, ... i wonder what church has you giving out their ideas.

 

[FaithWillDo]

I'm curious.

No mainline denomination teaches anything about "latter rain" as The Gospel.
Yet you do. So, as you are not affiliated with Mainline Protestantism, or Catholicism, ... I wonder what church has you giving out their ideas.

Dear Behold,
I do not associate with any "church" or group. I have not since 2005 when I received the Latter Rain of the Spirit. At that time, I left the apostate church. I now only fellowship with Christ and His Father and the "few" converted believers which I occasionally meet online.

There are no "brick & mortar" churches which teach the truth of Christ. The nearly 2,000 denominations/sects of Christianity in the world are all apostate. They each claim that their particular teachings are the truth of Christ, when in fact, none of them teach the truth. They have all become places where the "blind lead the blind".

All the churches which the Apostles started were invaded by the spirit of anti-Christ near the end of the 1st Century. Paul calls this event the "apostasy":

2Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there the apostasy come first, and that MAN OF SIN be revealed, the son of perdition;

Paul also stated this about the coming apostasy:

Acts 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

John said this:

1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Christ also taught about the coming of the spirit of anti-Christ in the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares. He also mentions it in the verses below:

Mat 12:43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself SEVEN other spirits (the spirit of anti-Christ) more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

The spiritual symbol of an "unclean spirit" represents how Satan delivers his false truth to a person. Unbelievers have "one unclean spirit" within them. It teaches them the false beliefs of this world. The "seven unclean spirits" will come into a new believer shortly after they have received the Early Rain of the Spirit and have been "called out from the world". The number "seven" represents perfection. For that reason, the deception of the spirit of anti-Christ is very powerful. Christ said this about how powerful its deception is:

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Back to Mat 12:43-45: since a new believer remains spiritually blind (Mark 8:21-25) after receiving the Early Rain of the Spirit, they cannot replace their worldly false beliefs with the truth of Christ. ONE unclean spirit leaves but comes back with SEVEN (spirit of anti-Christ) more since their house remains void of the truth of Christ. Now, instead of just ONE unclean spirit within them, they now have EIGHT. The number EIGHT is a spiritual symbol which represents a new spiritual condition. In this case, the new spiritual condition is worse than the first.

Paul calls a person who has the spirit of anti-Christ indwelling them a "Man of Sin".

In the book of Revelation, John calls the spirit of anti-Christ the "False Prophet". It is the second beast of Revelation chapter 13. The first beast in the chapter represents the Man of Sin who is an apostate believer who is under the influence of the spirit of anti-Christ (the second beast).

Since the end of the 1st Century, the church has become apostate and is teaching "another gospel". This false gospel makes Christ out to be a failure at saving mankind because it teaches that mankind's salvation is dependent upon the "works" of man and not solely upon the "works" of Christ. With this false gospel, the "ministers of Satan" cause believers to serve "two masters" (Satan & Christ). When a believer does this, they will fall from grace and come under the Law again.

The ministers of Satan further pervert the true Gospel of Christ by changing the penalty of sin (which is death) to being eternal torment in literal fire. Nothing is more blasphemous than their doctrines of Free Will and Hell. Those teachings truly come from Satan.

When Christ is ready to come to one of His Elect to pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon them, He will send a person to them in the spirit of Elijah to make Christ's path "straight" for His second coming. For the Jewish Elect, Christ sent John the Baptist. Christ then came to them on the Day of Pentecost and poured out the Latter Rain upon them. For the Gentile Elect, Christ will send one of His converted Elect believers to them in the spirit of Elijah. This is the work that the Lord has given me to perform.

James taught about this truth in the verses below:

Jam 5:17 Elijah was a man subject to like passions as we are, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months. 18 And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain (the Latter Rain), and the earth brought forth her fruit. 19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one turns him back; 20 Let him know, that he which turns a sinner from the error of his way shall save their soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

After Elijah causes a fallen away believer to repent of their “works” and has made the pathway straight for Christ, the Lord will come and pour out the Latter Rain of the Spirit upon that believer. After the believer's spiritual blindness has been healed, Christ will "appear" to them and come into their house and "sup" with them. After they have received their spiritual nourishment from the Word of God, their Day of the Lord (judgment) will commence. After the believer's judgment is complete, they will be converted.

Joe

 

[Behold]

Dear Behold,
I do not associate with any "church" or group. I have not since 2005 when I received the Latter Rain of the Spirit. At that time, I left the apostate church. I now only fellowship with Christ and His Father and the "few" converted believers which I occasionally meet online.
All the churches which the Apostles started were invaded by the spirit of anti-Christ near the end of the 1st Century. Paul calls this event the "apostasy":

Paul never said the "churches" were invaded by the "Spirit of anti-Christ".
Paul said that this spirit was "now in the WORLD". 1 John 4:3
The "world" is not the body of Christ, FaithWillDo., so, based on your misunderstanding of that, its difficult to see your theology as accurate.
As that is a verse that is hard to misunderstand, and yet, you did. You even changed the verse.

I dont personally teach that the local assembly is only the brick and mortar building.
In fact a Christian Forum is a "church", in my opinion, as believers are gathered.

What i can tell you also, is that Jesus called Paul to reveal to the "time of the Gentile", the "Gospel of the Grace of God".
This is the "preaching of the Cross", as "the preaching of the Cross is the power of God, unto Salvation".

 

[FaithWillDo]

Paul never said the "churches" were invaded by the "Spirit of anti-Christ".
Paul said that this spirit was "now in the WORLD".
The "world" is not the body of Christ, FaithWillDo.


I dont personally teach that the local assembly is the brick and mortar building.
In fact a Christian Forum is a "church", in my opinion, as believers are gathered.

What i can tell you also, is that Jesus called Paul to reveal to the "time of the Gentile", the "Gospel of the Grace of God".
This is the "preaching of the Cross", as "the preaching of the Cross is the power of God, unto Salvation".

Dear Behold,
No, Paul never used the term "spirit of anti-Christ"; only John did. However, Paul understood what was about to happen to the church. Paul taught it to the Thessalonians in chapter 2 of his second letter to them.

As I stated in my previous posts, the Gospel which Paul preached is not the same gospel being preached today.

Do you not believe that the wolves came into the church after Paul's departing?

Do you not believe that the spirit of anti-Christ invaded the church and caused the apostasy?

Do you not believe what Christ said in Mat 12:43-45?

If you believe the church today is no longer apostate, when do you believe the spirit of anti-Christ left it?

The book of Revelation teaches the pathway to salvation the Elect will travel during their lifetimes. For that reason, the book says the Elect must "keep the sayings of the prophecies". If a believer doesn't keep the sayings, they are not one of Christ's Elect. In the prophecies, the pathway to salvation includes the apostasy of the church and shows how Satan kills the Elect prior to their conversion.

If the church is no longer apostate, how can any of the Elect today keep the sayings of the prophecies?

Joe

 

[Behold]

Dear Behold,
No, Paul never used the term "spirit of anti-Christ"; only John did. However, Paul understood what was about to happen to the church. Paul taught it to the Thessalonians in chapter 2 of his second letter to them.

Paul taught it differently, different nomenclature, but its the same anti-chist spirit.

He taught it like this..

""""So it is no wonder that the Devil's servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve.""""

So, that is John's anti-Christ spirit, at work.

44,000 Denominations are a part of that work, but, not all local assemblies are demonized.
But they are shown to. be, according to : Luke 11:35 and Galatians 1:8

 

[Behold]

As I stated in my previous posts, the Gospel which Paul preached is not the same gospel being preached today.

There is only one Gospel "In the time of the Gentiles"", and that is Paul's Gospel...so any other would be : Galatians 1:8

You keep stating this word...."Elect".

So, that word defines Calvinism.. Are you a Calvinist, who does not believe in Free Will, and believe that the "elect" are those that God has chosen to be born again, and this is Salvation?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Another one who claims to know truth. But refuses to assemble together as if he heard a secret message from God

The bible is so right about the last days and false prophets.

 

[Behold]

To be saved, a person must be given BOTH the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit.

There is no verse in the NT that says the latter rains of the Spirit, is the Gospel.

So, again, i'll ask you..... You are talking Calvinism, with a twist... But as you keep referring to the ELECT...... How are the elect elected, according to your Theology?

 

[Behold]

Paul calls a person who has the spirit of anti-Christ indwelling them a "Man of Sin".

The "man of sin" is the "son of perdition"......that is a specific title given to the "Beast, the Anti-Christ."

All unbelievers are "anti-christ: as all Christ rejectors, are anti-Christ., but not all unbelievers are the "Son of perdition".

 

[FaithWillDo]

Paul taught it differently, different nomenclature, but its the same anti-chist spirit.

He taught it like this..

""""So it is no wonder that the Devil's servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. In the end they will get the punishment their wicked deeds deserve.""""

So, that is John's anti-Christ spirit, at work.

44,000 Denominations are a part of that work, but, not all local assemblies are demonized.
But they are shown to. be, according to : Luke 11:35 and Galatians 1:8

Dear Behold,
The pathway to Salvation is the same for everyone. The Elect must experience the apostasy and be kill by Satan.

Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, it is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Mankind is not saved by "bread alone" but by "every word" God speaks. His words includes the apostasy and a time of "falling away".

Joe

 

[Behold]

Another one who claims to know truth. But refuses to assemble together as if he heard a secret message from God

The bible is so right about the last days and false prophets.

In real life, we "know them by their fruit".
On forums, we "know them by their words".......specifically, how their "gospel" lines up with Paul's.
Its really that simple if you want to discover the deceivers.

What does Paul's Gospel NOT contain? ???????

1.) Mary
2.) Calvin
3.) Water Baptism
4.) Law
5.) Commandments
6.) Trying to be like Christ
7.) Trusting in Faith
8.) Self Effort
9.) Enduring to the end
10.) Church membership
11.) Communion/ Taking The Sacrament(s)

 

[Behold]

Dear Behold,
The pathway to Salvation is the same for everyone. The Elect must experience the apostasy and be kill by Satan.

Joe,

Salvation is : Christ on the Cross.

John 3:16-17
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 12:32
John 14:6

So, your Gospel just denied the Cross, in public.

Galatians 1:8

 

[FaithWillDo]

There is only one Gospel "In the time of the Gentiles"", and that is Paul's Gospel...so any other would be : Galatians 1:8

You keep stating this word...."Elect".

So, that word defines Calvinism.. Are you a Calvinist, who does not believe in Free Will, and believe that the "elect" are those that God has chosen to be born again, and this is Salvation?

Dear Behold,

There is only one true Gospel, but it is not preach in any of the churches and has not been since the end of the 1st Century.

Also, I do not accept the teachings of Calvin even though some of his teachings contain a partial truth. But a partial truth is no truth at all. It is still a leavened loaf of bread:

Matt 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.

In this present age, Christ is ONLY harvesting His First Fruits. They are the heirs of the promise and are called the Elect. They were chosen by God for this blessing from the foundation of the world.

Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

2Tim 1:9 who did save us, and did call with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, that was given to us in Christ Jesus, before the times of the ages…

The balance of mankind will have to wait until the end of the final age for their salvation. No man has the ability to choose the timing of their own salvation. That was ordained by God from the beginning.

Ecc 3:1 To everything there is a season and a time to every purpose under the heaven.

Jer 10:23 I know, Jehovah, that the way of man is not his own; it is not in a man that walketh to direct his steps.

Prov 20:24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?

The Doctrine of Free Will is a lie from Satan. With that doctrine, Satan teaches that mankind must perform some works for their salvation - even if is it only a confession of faith. However, no man can make that confession UNLESS Christ comes to them first and causes the confession to happen. Because Christ is the one who causes the confession, it is His "work".

Prov 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Isa 26:12 O Jehovah, thou appointest peace to us, for, all our works also thou hast wrought for us.

1Cor 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Spirit.

Only AFTER Christ comes to a person and prepares their heart with the Spirit will they make a confession of faith. Christ determines when that time will be for each person who has ever lived. Mankind has no ability to contribute anything to their own salvation, not even the timing of it. If they could, it would be a "work". We all must wait on the Lord to come. If we are "blessed", He will come to us in this present age and give us both the Early and Latter Rains of the Spirit. If we are not "blessed", He won't come to us at all or He may only come to us only one time and give us the Early Rain of the Spirit. In either case, the person's salvation will not occur until the end of the final age. They simply were not blessed to be saved early.

Christ is mankind's Savior. He does the saving and He decides when each person's salvation will be given to them. Mankind's carnal nature hates this truth and that is why Satan's false gospel is gladly accepted by called out believers.

Luke 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, the old is better.

Joe

 

[Behold]

Dear Behold,

There is only one true Gospel, but it is not preach in any of the churches and has not been since the end of the 1st Century.

The Doctrine of Free Will is a lie from Satan.

I preach "The Gospel".....that is Paul's Gospel.
Im not the only one, but, its rare these days, as we are in the end of the time of the Gentiles.

Also, "free will" is not a doctrine, but this concept was abused and subverted by Calvin.

Free Will is how you choose. Its how you make a choice.
See, if you didn't have free will, you would not be able to choose.

 

[Behold]

They were chosen by God for this blessing from the foundation of the world.

Ok.

What you just posted is 100% Calvinism.

"God choosing".......>"elect"......"pre-destined"...

See that?
That is John Calvinism.

 

[Behold]

However, no man can make that confession UNLESS Christ comes to them first and causes the confession to happen.

Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit, do not cause, force, or in any way MAKE you believe, anything.

The Cross is offered for you to receive by Faith through the Gospel being given.

"faith comes by HEARING"...... not by being made to believe.

Salvation is a "Gift", not a coercion.