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What heretic's call "easy believism" is the devil's invention.

Understand.....its the devil who is the author of self righteousness and self saving theology, or "a false gospel".
Its the devil who blinds the mind and creates an alternative to Grace = as "logical".

Heretics read the bible with their "natural mind", and that is why they can't discern anything spiritual about it.
The issue with this type of mind blinded thinking is that the Spiritual, is not logic based.. its Faith based and its hope based and it GRACE Based.
God's word is LIGHT, and you have to be able to Discern the LIGHT to understand the verse in a Holy Bible.
Christian Heretics cannot do this, which is the end result of becoming DECEIVED.

What is the evidence of heresy?
Well there are many.
For example, praying to a person, such as Mary.
Thinking that water saves you.
Believing that you have indwelling sin instead of indwelling Christ, as it can't be both.
Listen... Can you be the BORN AGAIN "temple of the Holy Spirit" where GOD LIVES, and Sin be found there?

A.) No.

The #1 heresy taught on Forums is. "you can lose your salvation".
So, if you are dealing with this deceived person who is telling you this, you are dealing with a person who has no understanding of the Blood of Jesus, or The Cross of Christ.
NONE.
And that is why they never talk about those, but only talk about commandments or, Hebrews 10, or "dead faith" or "enduring", and most of all...they screech that you can lose your salvation.


JUDE teaches something that every believer has to comprehend so that they are not deceived by a Legalist....( a self saver)....A Heretic.
Its this..
JUDE teaches, that the devil's deceived teach that the Grace of God, is "license to sin".
Jude and Paul say that the evil one has cleverly used man's self righteousness against their own understanding of how the Grace of God operates as a FREE GIFT.
Simply put, the devil's theology switches God's Grace into the idea of license to sin, by convincing believers that God's SALVATION, if taught correctly as a GIFT, is...>"license to sin".
Think on that .

The Devil Led HERETIC, reads that God was in Christ in the WORLD, not counting your sin against you, ever again, IF YOU WILL BELIEVE.

2 Corinthians 5:19

And the Devil led Heretic flips out and rants...>"if you teach that you are teaching license to Sin".
This is what they told Paul, and this is what they will tell you, if you teach Grace as "the GIFT of Salvation" that you cant earn, and you can't lose.

You'll find the devil's deceived ranting that the Gift of God, when taught correctly AS ''the GIFT of Righteousness"", is...>"cheap grace" ."easy believism", and "License".
Its what they do on every FORUM and from thousands of pulpits.
Why? Its because they are deeply deceived within their own self righteousness and can no longer SEE the Grace of God as Freely Given..
They read that "God who began Salvation in the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to Complete it".......and they say...>"oh no, you have to do this, and hold unto this, as Salvation is ON YOU to keep and not LOSE".

These LEGALISTS are so faith and mentally subverted within themselves that when they hear the True Gospel, and are confronted with the Truth of Amazing GRACE...they will stand up and deny it.
You find these carnal heretics as Preachers, as Teachers, and Church and Forum Members.
These people are ultra offensive to the Cross of Christ, and they ruin all Christian Forums.

Lets look now at Romans 10.

Here is the Legalist. = ""For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness" = The Devil's Gospel.
They exist within the mind of the flesh and are "fallen from Grace".
What they teach is : Galatians 1:8

So, you find these types shouting about the Commandments and preaching their SELF EFFORT to stay saved theology, you have to recognize these deceivers, as they will ruin your faith In Christ IF you start listening to them and find agreement.
The Devil has deceived them, and He will us them to do the same to you if you do not discern these deceived people.
Its their Ministry.

Now lets look at how we have and why we have PEACE with God....

WE start here....Hebrews 10:14. : """ For by one offering God hath perfected FOREVER them (born again) that ARE= sanctified""
Notice the duration of the perfected...= Its """FOREVER"".
The '"PERFECTED" is the born again Christian's SPIRIT, that is "in Christ", "one with God".
This is the real you. Not your body, your behavior, or your mind.,, if you are born again and NOT just water baptized and religious.
And notice the sanctification is finished....."them that ARE".... its not, them that will be, or can be, or may be.....its "ARE"..= finished. "ARE" as in completed".
= Born again, Made Righteous, Having received "the GIFT of Righteousness and the GIFT of Salvation".

Listen..

The born again ARE become "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is all the born again.
The BORN AGAIN.... are complete IN CHRIST< Made Righteous, and this can never change as the "New Birth", cannot be changed, cannot be ended.
You can't stop being born again.
You can't stop being a Son/Daughter of God.
You can't stop being "the temple of the Holy Spirit".
You can't stop being "IN Christ"
You can't stop Jesus when He told the born again, "i will NEVER Leave you", and its because He is IN all the born again, that the born again remain "one with God"..... SAVED....and will "NEVER PERISH"< Jesus told you.

And here is the PEACE.... Romans 5:1.... """being Justified....we HAVE Peace WITH GOD"".

And this Peace is the Grace of God, that is the "gift of Righteousness" that Legalist's try to teach is a : "license to sin".

Listen.,
When Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved... has been destroyed, and now you are trying to stay saved, you have been SUBVERTED from "real faith'" in Christ.
You've been deceived.
And that is what these carnal devil's are trying to do to you on Forums and from Pulpits, worldwide.
A legalist, a heretic, a dark light.... would have you trying to earn and keep this peace with God by lifestyle, self effort, works, and commandment keeping, which denies and contradicts God's Grace = which is a FREE GIFT that is given and received, and not earned or kept, which is the reason GOD is always kept in perfect peace with the Born Again.

Philippians 1:6. = God is faithful to complete your Salvation.

Believe it.
 
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its the devil who is the author of self righteousness

Who teaches self-wickedness?

God?

:IDK:

its the devil who is the author of self righteousness and self saving

Is believing the gospel “self-saving”?

Who is believing the gospel for you since you can’t save your self?

:IDK:

Can you be the BORN AGAIN "temple of the Holy Spirit" where GOD LIVES, and Sin be found there?

A.) No.

YES.

So:

“Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.” (Romans 6:12)

It takes self-effort to keep sin restrained son.

The #1 heresy taught on Forums is. "you can lose your salvation".

It’s not heresy son.

Listen to Peter and stop spreading lies:

“…brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:” (2 Peter 1:10)

you find these types shouting about the Commandments

“These types” like Jesus?

“If ye love me, keep my commandments.” (John 14:15)

they never talk about those, but only talk about commandments or, Hebrews 10

And look what you end up doing next…

Now lets look at how we have and why we have PEACE with God....

WE start here....Hebrews 10:14.

YOU TALK ABOUT HEBREWS 10!

:jest:

Listen.,
When Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved...

“…if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Romans 11:22)

Philippians 1:6. = God is faithful to complete your Salvation.

“If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel…” (Colossians 1:23)
 

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“If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel…” (Colossians 1:23)

Michiah-Imla,

We on the Forum, are aware that you do not Trust in Christ to keep you saved.
Yet you feel compelled and obsessed to keep proving it.

Notice also deceiver this verse that i posted below....

Its says that if the born again have a faith crisis.....GOD is still faithful to complete your salvation. Philippians 1:6

Now, you dont believe that God is faithful, because you are not able to understand the Cross of Christ.... and you have proven this by continually teaching that God is not going to keep you saved.
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New International Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

New Living Translation
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.

English Standard Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.

Berean Standard Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

Berean Literal Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He is not able to deny Himself.

King James Bible
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

New King James Version
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

New American Standard Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1995
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1977
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; for He cannot deny Himself.

Amplified Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful [true to His word and His righteous character], for He cannot deny Himself.

Christian Standard Bible
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.

 

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you do not Trust in Christ to keep you saved.

If anyone denies Christ he will be rejected by Christ:

“…if we deny him, he also will deny us” (2 Timothy 2:12)

You are openly teaching disobedience against all the warnings and conditions of salvation. Beware that you aren’t what this scripture speaks of:

“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16)
 
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If anyone denies Christ he will be rejected by Christ:
1:16)
Michiah-Imla,

We on the Forum, are aware that you do not Trust in Christ to keep you saved.
And you feel compelled and obsessed to keep proving it to us.


Now, notice carefully what happens if a born again believer has a faith crisis or "dead faith".

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New International Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

New Living Translation
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.

English Standard Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.

Berean Standard Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

Berean Literal Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He is not able to deny Himself.

King James Bible
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

New King James Version
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

New American Standard Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1995
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1977
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; for He cannot deny Himself.

Amplified Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful [true to His word and His righteous character], for He cannot deny Himself.

Christian Standard Bible
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.
 

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If anyone denies Christ he will be rejected by Christ:

“…if we deny him, he also will deny us” (2 Timothy 2:12)

2 Timothy 2:13..... you left that one out... You stopped before the context of the verse was given, as its not talking about losing Salvation.
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New International Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

New Living Translation
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.

English Standard Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.

Berean Standard Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

Berean Literal Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He is not able to deny Himself.

King James Bible
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

New King James Version
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

New American Standard Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1995
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1977
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; for He cannot deny Himself.

Amplified Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful [true to His word and His righteous character], for He cannot deny Himself.

Christian Standard Bible
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.
 

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“They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.” (Titus 1:16)

Professing you know God, is irrelevant.
Its God KNOWING YOU......"knowing". = Born again, "in Christ" , having become 'ONE with God".
This is the PROOF.
This is NOT some religious faiker pretending to be a Christian, who denies the Cross and only worries about losing SALVATION in every post...

Understand yet?
Take your time and see if you can figure it out, Michiah-Imla.
 

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Professing you know God, is irrelevant.

Its God KNOWING YOU......"knowing"

Many will be in for a shock in that day when they stand before Christ. Many think God knows them, but…

“And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matthew 7:23)

Since self-righteousness is condemned by many, many will fall by their own self-iniquity.
 

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them, but…

“And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” (Matthew 7:23)

Your verse is not talking to or about the born again.
Its exposing religious people who are trying to be like Christ, yet are not born again..... = are NOT KNOWN by God.
These fake believers, talk about Jesus, quote verses, and cast out devils... they did GOOD works., yet died and were told "i never knew you"., and went to hell like a bullet.
Same as today.

Today, these are people who take God's name in Vain.
That is, they pretend to be the bride of Christ, but are enemies of the Cross, according to their Gospel of WORKS, that is : Galatians 1:8
You spot them, according to JUDE and Paul's Teaching....= is the subject of my Thread.
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What heretic's call "easy believism" is the devil's invention.

Understand.....its the devil who is the author of self righteousness and self saving theology, or "a false gospel".
Its the devil who blinds the mind and creates an alternative to Grace = as "logical".

Heretics read the bible with their "natural mind", and that is why they can't discern anything spiritual about it.
The issue with this type of mind blinded thinking is that the Spiritual, is not logic based.. its Faith based and its hope based and it GRACE Based.
God's word is LIGHT, and you have to be able to Discern the LIGHT to understand the verse in a Holy Bible.
Christian Heretics cannot do this, which is the end result of becoming DECEIVED.

What is the evidence of heresy?
Well there are many.
For example, praying to a person, such as Mary.
Thinking that water saves you.
Believing that you have indwelling sin instead of indwelling Christ, as it can't be both.
Listen... Can you be the BORN AGAIN "temple of the Holy Spirit" where GOD LIVES, and Sin be found there?

A.) No.

The #1 heresy taught on Forums is. "you can lose your salvation".
So, if you are dealing with this deceived person who is telling you this, you are dealing with a person who has no understanding of the Blood of Jesus, or The Cross of Christ.
NONE.
And that is why they never talk about those, but only talk about commandments or, Hebrews 10, or "dead faith" or "enduring", and most of all...they screech that you can lose your salvation.


JUDE teaches something that every believer has to comprehend so that they are not deceived by a Legalist....( a self saver)....A Heretic.
Its this..
JUDE teaches, that the devil's deceived teach that the Grace of God, is "license to sin".
Jude and Paul say that the evil one has cleverly used man's self righteousness against their own understanding of how the Grace of God operates as a FREE GIFT.
Simply put, the devil's theology switches God's Grace into the idea of license to sin, by convincing believers that God's SALVATION, if taught correctly as a GIFT, is...>"license to sin".
Think on that .

The Devil Led HERETIC, reads that God was in Christ in the WORLD, not counting your sin against you, ever again, IF YOU WILL BELIEVE.

2 Corinthians 5:19

And the Devil led Heretic flips out and rants...>"if you teach that you are teaching license to Sin".
This is what they told Paul, and this is what they will tell you, if you teach Grace as "the GIFT of Salvation" that you cant earn, and you can't lose.

You'll find the devil's deceived ranting that the Gift of God, when taught correctly AS ''the GIFT of Righteousness"", is...>"cheap grace" ."easy believism", and "License".
Its what they do on every FORUM and from thousands of pulpits.
Why? Its because they are deeply deceived within their own self righteousness and can no longer SEE the Grace of God as Freely Given..
They read that "God who began Salvation in the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to Complete it".......and they say...>"oh no, you have to do this, and hold unto this, as Salvation is ON YOU to keep and not LOSE".

These LEGALISTS are so faith and mentally subverted within themselves that when they hear the True Gospel, and are confronted with the Truth of Amazing GRACE...they will stand up and deny it.
You find these carnal heretics as Preachers, as Teachers, and Church and Forum Members.
These people are ultra offensive to the Cross of Christ, and they ruin all Christian Forums.

Lets look now at Romans 10.

Here is the Legalist. = ""For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness" = The Devil's Gospel.
They exist within the mind of the flesh and are "fallen from Grace".
What they teach is : Galatians 1:8

So, you find these types shouting about the Commandments and preaching their SELF EFFORT to stay saved theology, you have to recognize these deceivers, as they will ruin your faith In Christ IF you start listening to them and find agreement.
The Devil has deceived them, and He will us them to do the same to you if you do not discern these deceived people.
Its their Ministry.

Now lets look at how we have and why we have PEACE with God....

WE start here....Hebrews 10:14. : """ For by one offering God hath perfected FOREVER them (born again) that ARE= sanctified""
Notice the duration of the perfected...= Its """FOREVER"".
The '"PERFECTED" is the born again Christian's SPIRIT, that is "in Christ", "one with God".
This is the real you. Not your body, your behavior, or your mind.,, if you are born again and NOT just water baptized and religious.
And notice the sanctification is finished....."them that ARE".... its not, them that will be, or can be, or may be.....its "ARE"..= finished. "ARE" as in completed".
= Born again, Made Righteous, Having received "the GIFT of Righteousness and the GIFT of Salvation".

Listen..

The born again ARE become "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is all the born again.
The BORN AGAIN.... are complete IN CHRIST< Made Righteous, and this can never change as the "New Birth", cannot be changed, cannot be ended.
You can't stop being born again.
You can't stop being a Son/Daughter of God.
You can't stop being "the temple of the Holy Spirit".
You can't stop being "IN Christ"
You can't stop Jesus when He told the born again, "i will NEVER Leave you", and its because He is IN all the born again, that the born again remain "one with God"..... SAVED....and will "NEVER PERISH"< Jesus told you.

And here is the PEACE.... Romans 5:1.... """being Justified....we HAVE Peace WITH GOD"".

And this Peace is the Grace of God, that is the "gift of Righteousness" that Legalist's try to teach is a : "license to sin".

Listen.,
When Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved... has been destroyed, and now you are trying to stay saved, you have been SUBVERTED from "real faith'" in Christ.
You've been deceived.
And that is what these carnal devil's are trying to do to you on Forums and from Pulpits, worldwide.
A legalist, a heretic, a dark light.... would have you trying to earn and keep this peace with God by lifestyle, self effort, works, and commandment keeping, which denies and contradicts God's Grace = which is a FREE GIFT that is given and received, and not earned or kept, which is the reason GOD is always kept in perfect peace with the Born Again.

Philippians 1:6. = God is faithful to complete your Salvation.

Believe it.
 

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Overwhelming the reader with non biblical cut and paste walls of text is an obvious tactic to confuse the reader and distract from the scriptures that plainly expose your errors.

You dilute the thread with vain speeches drowning out the word of God.
 

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Could it be that the Devils Ministers genuinely believe they are God's ministers?
 

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They do, they do.
How can this be? Has the Devil masqueraded as God? ....in our attitudes, in our theology, in our relationships and in the view of ourselves.
Ahhhhhh, that shiny angel is looks just like the God we've created. Why shouldn't we believe him?
 

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Michiah-Imla,

We on the Forum, are aware that you do not Trust in Christ to keep you saved.
Yet you feel compelled and obsessed to keep proving it.

Notice also deceiver this verse that i posted below....

Its says that if the born again have a faith crisis.....GOD is still faithful to complete your salvation. Philippians 1:6

Now, you dont believe that God is faithful, because you are not able to understand the Cross of Christ.... and you have proven this by continually teaching that God is not going to keep you saved.
-----------


New International Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

New Living Translation
If we are unfaithful, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny who he is.

English Standard Version
if we are faithless, he remains faithful— for he cannot deny himself.

Berean Standard Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

Berean Literal Bible
if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He is not able to deny Himself.

King James Bible
If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

New King James Version
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.

New American Standard Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1995
If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

NASB 1977
If we are faithless, He remains faithful; for He cannot deny Himself.

Amplified Bible
If we are faithless, He remains faithful [true to His word and His righteous character], for He cannot deny Himself.

Christian Standard Bible
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot deny himself.
Bless you your patience with a board troll such as that. Only God can change their mind. Meanwhile he/she and those many like them here feed on any attention we give.

Wild, isn't it? How many people enter here just to make sport of us while proving they have nothing better to do with their one and only life.
 
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Could it be that the Devils Ministers genuinely believe they are God's ministers?
Self-deception is a very powerful force, just like brainwashing. All the cultists sincerely believe that they are God's ministers. A good example is Mormon missionaries (kids) going door to door, or Jehovah's Witnesses handing out their misleading literature. Since most people have no idea about the true Gospel or true Bible doctrine, many get sucked into these cults.
 

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Could it be that the Devils Ministers genuinely believe they are God's ministers?

Well, since I’m a minister and some here believe me to be the devil incarnate, I thought I should at least stop by and say hello.
 
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What heretic's call "easy believism" is the devil's invention.

Understand.....its the devil who is the author of self righteousness and self saving theology, or "a false gospel".
Its the devil who blinds the mind and creates an alternative to Grace = as "logical".

Heretics read the bible with their "natural mind", and that is why they can't discern anything spiritual about it.
The issue with this type of mind blinded thinking is that the Spiritual, is not logic based.. its Faith based and its hope based and it GRACE Based.
God's word is LIGHT, and you have to be able to Discern the LIGHT to understand the verse in a Holy Bible.
Christian Heretics cannot do this, which is the end result of becoming DECEIVED.

What is the evidence of heresy?
Well there are many.
For example, praying to a person, such as Mary.
Thinking that water saves you.
Believing that you have indwelling sin instead of indwelling Christ, as it can't be both.
Listen... Can you be the BORN AGAIN "temple of the Holy Spirit" where GOD LIVES, and Sin be found there?

A.) No.

The #1 heresy taught on Forums is. "you can lose your salvation".
So, if you are dealing with this deceived person who is telling you this, you are dealing with a person who has no understanding of the Blood of Jesus, or The Cross of Christ.
NONE.
And that is why they never talk about those, but only talk about commandments or, Hebrews 10, or "dead faith" or "enduring", and most of all...they screech that you can lose your salvation.


JUDE
teaches something that every believer has to comprehend so that they are not deceived by a Legalist....( a self saver)....A Heretic.
Its this..
JUDE teaches, that the devil's deceived teach that the Grace of God, is "license to sin".
Jude and Paul say that the evil one has cleverly used man's self righteousness against their own understanding of how the Grace of God operates as a FREE GIFT.
Simply put, the devil's theology switches God's Grace into the idea of license to sin, by convincing believers that God's SALVATION, if taught correctly as a GIFT, is...>"license to sin".
Think on that .

The Devil Led HERETIC, reads that God was in Christ in the WORLD, not counting your sin against you, ever again, IF YOU WILL BELIEVE.

2 Corinthians 5:19

And the Devil led Heretic flips out and rants...>"if you teach that you are teaching license to Sin".
This is what they told Paul, and this is what they will tell you, if you teach Grace as "the GIFT of Salvation" that you cant earn, and you can't lose.

You'll find the devil's deceived ranting that the Gift of God, when taught correctly AS ''the GIFT of Righteousness"", is...>"cheap grace" ."easy believism", and "License".
Its what they do on every FORUM and from thousands of pulpits.
Why? Its because they are deeply deceived within their own self righteousness and can no longer SEE the Grace of God as Freely Given..
They read that "God who began Salvation in the born again, will HIMSELF be faithful to Complete it".......and they say...>"oh no, you have to do this, and hold unto this, as Salvation is ON YOU to keep and not LOSE".

These LEGALISTS are so faith and mentally subverted within themselves that when they hear the True Gospel, and are confronted with the Truth of Amazing GRACE...they will stand up and deny it.
You find these carnal heretics as Preachers, as Teachers, and Church and Forum Members.
These people are ultra offensive to the Cross of Christ, and they ruin all Christian Forums.

Lets look now at Romans 10.

Here is the Legalist. = ""For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness" = The Devil's Gospel.
They exist within the mind of the flesh and are "fallen from Grace".
What they teach is : Galatians 1:8

So, you find these types shouting about the Commandments and preaching their SELF EFFORT to stay saved theology, you have to recognize these deceivers, as they will ruin your faith In Christ IF you start listening to them and find agreement.
The Devil has deceived them, and He will us them to do the same to you if you do not discern these deceived people.
Its their Ministry.

Now lets look at how we have and why we have PEACE with God....

WE start here....Hebrews 10:14. : """ For by one offering God hath perfected FOREVER them (born again) that ARE= sanctified""
Notice the duration of the perfected...= Its """FOREVER"".
The '"PERFECTED" is the born again Christian's SPIRIT, that is "in Christ", "one with God".
This is the real you. Not your body, your behavior, or your mind.,, if you are born again and NOT just water baptized and religious.
And notice the sanctification is finished....."them that ARE".... its not, them that will be, or can be, or may be.....its "ARE"..= finished. "ARE" as in completed".
= Born again, Made Righteous, Having received "the GIFT of Righteousness and the GIFT of Salvation".

Listen..

The born again ARE become "the righteousness of God, in Christ".
That is all the born again.
The BORN AGAIN.... are complete IN CHRIST< Made Righteous, and this can never change as the "New Birth", cannot be changed, cannot be ended.
You can't stop being born again.
You can't stop being a Son/Daughter of God.
You can't stop being "the temple of the Holy Spirit".
You can't stop being "IN Christ"
You can't stop Jesus when He told the born again, "i will NEVER Leave you", and its because He is IN all the born again, that the born again remain "one with God"..... SAVED....and will "NEVER PERISH"< Jesus told you.

And here is the PEACE.... Romans 5:1.... """being Justified....we HAVE Peace WITH GOD"".

And this Peace is the Grace of God, that is the "gift of Righteousness" that Legalist's try to teach is a : "license to sin".

Listen.,
When Real Faith in Christ to keep you saved... has been destroyed, and now you are trying to stay saved, you have been SUBVERTED from "real faith'" in Christ.
You've been deceived.
And that is what these carnal devil's are trying to do to you on Forums and from Pulpits, worldwide.
A legalist, a heretic, a dark light.... would have you trying to earn and keep this peace with God by lifestyle, self effort, works, and commandment keeping, which denies and contradicts God's Grace = which is a FREE GIFT that is given and received, and not earned or kept, which is the reason GOD is always kept in perfect peace with the Born Again.

Philippians 1:6. = God is faithful to complete your Salvation.

Believe it.


I am not going to call you a liar. A lot people misunderstand the scriptures and wish that they could live as they please. Even more do not grasp the Spirit of Christ and Christianity.

Some just want to believe something....and they cherry pick the scriptures to find what supports their beliefs or what comforts them. It is called not seeing the forest for the trees....with your nose in your favorite scriptures....you cannot or do not want to believe the scriptures as a whole.

Why do people want to deny the scriptures? More than one reason I am sure. Maybe they want to live a sinful lifestyle and believe they are a Christian and are saved. Maybe they have loved ones that are living a sinful lifestyle and cannot bear the thought of them burning in hell for eternity. Whatever....

Now I know you and all of the OSAS crowd not only know the scriptures that prove you wrong, all of you have been given the scriptures that prove your beliefs are false. But that was just a courtesy because you knew them all along and just ignore them or deny them. A lot of people have told you the truth but you deny the Word of God. There is a curse associated with preaching a different Gospel. Now that curse you may realize in your lifetime. But in the end it could send you to hell.

The bigger sin can be that you lead others to hell and you maybe held accountable for the lose of their souls. How many levels of Hell are there? How many scriptures have they given you that prove you wrong? How many people have tried to reason with you? They have done their part, their conscience is clear. In the end you have earned what you are going to get.

Beliefs, Truths, Facts....Be good and do good. The Johnny Appleseed of truth.
 
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Overwhelming the reader with non biblical cut and paste walls of text is an obvious tactic to confuse the reader and distract from the scriptures that plainly expose your errors.

You dilute the thread with vain speeches drowning out the word of God.
Prove your accusation.

Link the source URL's to the sources of their cut and paste.
Because without linking the source of others intellectual property someone cuts and pasted into a forum,that's plagiarism.

Thou shalt not steal.
 
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Ah, some do, and some don't.

If they teach that the man who goes away in the Parables of the Manas in Luke and the Talents in Matthew, is Christ, then they are Satan's good and faithful servants.

Some do, some don’t. I speak from my experience with them.

Well, since I’m a minister and some here believe me to be the devil incarnate, I thought I should at least stop by and say hello.

Now since you claim that you are/were a minister, what did you teach with respect to these two parables?

With respect to the Promised Land, did you teach that it was to be a "forever" possession, or did you teach that its possession was for a period of time where the vanishing point of that time period was beyond our ability to comprehend?

Just these two questions should confirm who your master is, even now.
 
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