The Doctrine of the Trinity

The King James Version of the Bible, authorized in 1611, formed the strongest evidence for the Doctrine of the Trinity. But now the part, "the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one," has been expunged in the Revised Standard Version of 1952 and 1971 and in many other Bibles, as it was a gloss that had encroached on the Greek text. I John 5:7-8 in the New American Standard Bibles reads as follows:"And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear witness, the Spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement." Also, in the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures used by the Jehovah's Witnesses, you will find:"For there are three witness bearers, the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement." I just don't understand why this important part has been removed, and I wonder why many ministers and preachers are not aware of this. In actuality, the Trinity is not Biblical. The word Trinity is not even in the Bible, was never taught by Jesus, and was never mentioned by him. There is no basis or proof in the Bible whatsoever for the acceptance of the Trinity. Maybe in Matthew 28:19 it says, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." However, this is still not solid proof of the Trinity. If you speak of three persons sitting or eating together, does it mean they form one person? No.The formulation of the Trinity by Athanasius, an Egyptian deacon from Alexandria, was accepted by the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D., i.e. more than three centuries after Jesus had left. No doubt Roman paganism had influence in this doctrine as well; the triune god, the Sabbath was shifted to Sunday, and December 25th which was the birthday of their sun-god Mithra, was introduced as Jesus' birthday. In regards to Christmas and the rites and rituals that surround it, the Bible clearly predicts and forbids the decoration of Christmas trees in Jeremiah 10:2-5:"Thus says the Lord: "Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them, for the customs of the peoples are false. A tree from the forest is cut down, and worked with an axe by the hand of a craftsman. Men deck it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so that it cannot move. Their idols are like scarecrows in a cucumber field, and they cannot speak; they have to be carried, for they cannot walk. Be not affraid of them, for they cannot do evil, neither is it in them to do good."Of course in John 14:11 it says: "Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father in me," implying that God and Jesus are one. Further in John 17:21 however, it says: "...that they (the disciples) may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us..."Thus it becomes clear that God and Jesus are one, but also that the disciples are one in Jesus and God. If Jesus is God because he is in God, why are the disciples then not God, as they all are like Jesus in God? Similarly, if God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost form one unit of Trinity, then with the disciples included shouldn't they form a God unit of fifteen? The bottom line is that the whole Doctrine of the Trinity simply does not make any reasonable sense.I think Jesus himself clears things up in John 14:8-9: "Philip said to him, "Lord show us the Father, and we shall be satisfied." Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father; how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?" So finally, Jesus asked Philip how to show the appearance of God to the disciples, which is not possible. You should believe in God by admiring his creation: the sun, the moon, and all creations including Jesus himself who was created by God so miraculously. In John 4:24 Jesus says, "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth," and in John 5:37 he says, "...His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen..."Thus, how can you see a spirit then? What the people of the time saw was Jesus and not God. Also, Paul adds in his letter to Timothy, "whom no man has ever seen or can see." So what you can never see is God.We are taught that the Holy Spirit is the Holy Ghost, and is also God. We are also taught that the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. Of course, we are not allowed to say "Three gods" but "One God".In Matthew 1:18 it reads: "Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child of the Holy Spirit"But then in Luke 1:26-27 it reads: "In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary."So in the miraculous birth of Jesus, Matthew mentioned the Holy Ghost and Luke mentioned the angel Gabriel. What is the Holy Ghost then? It only makes sense that the Holy Ghost is Gabriel. Thus we come to the conclusion, God is God, the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost is the angel Gabriel, and Jesus is obviously a son of Mary but also a Prophet who brought the Word of God. In other words, God may have spoken through Jesus, as Jesus was a manifestation of the Word of God on earth. It is true that the Doctrine of the Trinity in not Biblical nor a teaching of Jesus, but instead a concept created by man long after the resurrection of Jesus. It is also true that many people are confused by this. My question to all believers is why make things so hard for ourselves?God BlessBeliever

 

The note to “angel” in Matthew 1:20 points to Hebrew 1:14 n.: “As to their nature, angels are spirits.” Do you not consider the angel Gabriel to be Holy as it is from God? Gabriel was an angel, not a man, thus “man of God” cannot be applied to the angel Gabriel. Also, why restrict the Holy Spirit to Jesus and not consider other people divine who are also filled with the Holy Spirit? In Acts 11:24 it says: “For he (Barnabas) was a good man, full of the Holy Spirit and of faith. And a large company was added to the Lord. In Acts 5:32: “And we are witnesses to these things, and so is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him.” See further in Acts 6:5, II Peter 1:21; II Timothy 1:14; I Corinthians 2:16; Luke 1:41. Even John the Baptist is said to be filled with the Holy Spirit while in his mother’s womb: “But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zachariah, for your prayer is heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John. And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth; for he will be great before the Lord, and he shall drink no wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb” (Luke 1:13-15). Why is Holy Spirit mentioned in Matthew and not in Luke and vice versa? Again, looking back at history, you will see that deviations from the pure doctrines of Jesus and all prophets before him started with Paul, who never met Jesus. Paul was the first to claim the Godhead and the concept of Jesus as the son. Yet, the disciples and the early Christian generations were Unitarians. They resisted the efforts of Paul and his followers to change both the faith and Law of Moses and Jesus, and, later, many of them were tortured for holding to their faith. The Doctrine of the Trinity, which was the original discussion at hand, was imposed for the first time, as an official creed of the Roman Empire, by Emperor Theodosius in the year 381 A.D. The motive was mainly political; to save the Roman Empire by putting an end to the split between the Unitarian Christians and the Trinitarians, a split that persisted even after the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. adopted the Pauline doctrines deifying Jesus as son of God. Trinity, subsequently endorsed by the Council of Constantinople in 381 A.D., attracted those who found in it a compromise between their original pagan beliefs and Christianity. Trinity, as I have mentioned, was an invention of Athanasius of Alexandria in the 4th century after Jesus' departure. Furthermore, it is a coinage of the Pauline doctrine with pagan beliefs of the ancient world. For example, in Egypt: Horus, Isis and Osiris, in India: Brahma, Siva and Vishnu, as well as the Greek myths of people who are sons of the “Holy Ghost” (Apollo). Other influences of the pagan beliefs I have already mentioned in my last post. But the concepts of Trinity and the Holy Ghost or Spirit were, in fact, a pagan invention that neither Jesus nor the early Christians ever accepted or advocated. Now going back to the scriptures, take a look at Luke 1:35: “And the angel said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God.” The Bible never claims that the Holy Spirit is God Almighty Himself. It is important to know that the Trinity is only an interpretation and a conclusion. There is not a single text in the Bible that says the Holy Spirit is GOD Almighty, nor does the word, trinity, even exist in the Bible. Nonsense? Blasphemy? Is this what you call it, and is this the way to make dialogue with a brother in religion? If you want to speak about blasphemy, then you better take a closer look at history, a whole history after Jesus that has defined the Christian movement, and be careful not to blaspheme yourself.May God Guide us all