exactly as taught by Jesus. but now all messed up, mixed up Christianity is the end of the road for Christians and non Christians imho - twinc
The End.....of the road ?
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What exactly do you mean by *Christianity*? There is false Christianity and true Christianity, and the Bible is still available to all (and today at no cost on the Internet).
by a strange coincidence and blindness it goes unnoticed or grasped that the saviour of Christians is the saviour of the world which means non Christians also imho - twinc
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Hi twinc
All things have always been messed-up...from the beginning.
I agree Christianity is in a mess...but that is of no surprise to the Lord.
However messed up it is...The Plan of God will never fail.
People may fail...God's Plan...never!
"The Saviour of the world" for those who obey the Gospel! Those who repent and are converted. Those who repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Universalism is a false doctrine.
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Agree, Redeemed is redeemed.
Some of us had our hearts touched, and our eyes opened..but Mr Ordinary out there still does not know it!
God unlocked 'the cage' that we were in via the Fall...Jesus swung the door wide open.....but many choose to stay in the darkness and call it light!!
( Probably that "light" comes from their TV or cell phone!!
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We are definitely like sheep...it is easy to be lead astray. And the world can be desensitizing. But God!
His Word can lead us in true Christianity if we meditate on it daily
Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.
Psalms 119:105 NKJV
His Word can lead us in true Christianity if we meditate on it daily
Your word is a lamp to my feet And a light to my path.
Psalms 119:105 NKJV
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“And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.” 1 John 2:2
"We trust in the living God who is the SAVIOR OF ALL MEN, [but especially] of those that believe (now during the “acceptable time”)." 1 Tim 4:10
These text in no way teach universalism, although is true that God is the savior of all men, and that he will have all men to be saved (from the Adamic curse) and to come to the knowledge of the truth (this in no way implies that all men will be saved everlastingly, this will be contingent upon the final test of every individual, the Church now during the Gospel age and the world during the next age. (1 Tim 2:3-6)
"Behold, now is the accepted time (to present yourself a living sacrifice Rom 12:1, for the opportunity to participate in the “high calling”); behold, now is a day of salvation (The implication being that there will be another opportunity for salvation in the next age for all those who have yet to have come to the knowledge of the truth).” 2 Cor 6:2; Isa 49:8
The Bible is still available to all, but only in translations overseen and authorised by you know who? Well, neither do I although I do. But you see, yours faithfully is a nobody who cannot make any difference. So the Bible is still available to all today at a cost, You must become a member and your mouth and mind locked through the palate. If I could draw a picture for you I would.
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What exactly does twinc mean by '~mixed christianity~'? Theeeere's the problem, right inside your Bible! Through translation, nothing than translation! Not the manuscripts, they are virtually flawless; but the translations, they are also virtually flawless but flawless to the ideas and wishes and tastes and audacity and PERNICIOUSNESS of the translators WHO ARE IN PERFECT CAHOOTS AGAINST TRUTH.
Like auntie Merkel said, Multi culturalism did not work out, just so does multi-religionism not work out, and twinkie is spot on right, it's the end of the road for both Western civilisation and Christianity; both are already and completely invaded and overcome by Catholicism in its hundreds of disguises.
Well if you don't trust the translations, you can spend some time learning Hebrew and Greek and save yourself a lot of grief.
Maybe, but the likelihood is that you will increase your grief as you try to get your laughing matter around the embedded storyline in the available texts. Even they have been interfered with over the centuries.
Oh....once again, you mean the “disguises” that has outlasted any other political or religious institution in history?
“disguises” that promotes life from conception to natural death?
“disguises” that respects all other religions and cultures. disguises that has among its adherents, intellectuals, philosophers, scientists, artists, academics as well as simpletons and the least educated in the most primitive of societies?
disguises that doesn't require complete knowledge and full understanding of complex doctrines?
disguises that has done more for the poor and needy than any other religious organization in the history of the world?
disguises that has not wavered in its doctrine or morals from the moment it began?
“disguises” whose message and connection with the Creator has changed the lives of billions throughout the ages?
“disguises” that has inspired its proponents to create some of the most beautiful works of art, music and literature ever produced?
“disguises” whose founder came to earth to suffer and die on a cross for all sinners and inspire untold thousands of its adherents to be martyred for their love of this founder and one another?
“disguises” that worships God and God only. But venerates his mother, The Blessed Virgin Mary.
Is that the “disguises” you are talking about?
NO???
How about this for a disguise:
The Bible Student movement (GerhardEbersoehn) is the name adopted by Millennialist[1]Restorationist Christian movement that emerged from the teachings and ministry of Charles Taze Russell, also known as Pastor Russell. Members of the movement have variously referred to themselves as Bible Students, International Bible Students, Associated Bible Students, or Independent Bible Students. The origins of the movement are associated with the formation of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society in 1881.
A number of schisms developed within the congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society between 1909 and 1932.[2][3] The most significant split began in 1917 following the election of Joseph Franklin Rutherford as president of the Watch Tower Society two months after Russell's death. The schism began with Rutherford's controversial replacement of four of the Society's board of directors and publication of The Finished Mystery...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Student_movement
Thousands of members left congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society throughout the 1920s prompted in part by Rutherford's failed predictions for the year 1925, increasing disillusionment with his on-going doctrinal and organizational changes, and his campaign for centralized control of the movement.[2] William Schnell, author and former Jehovah's Witness, claims that three-quarters of the original Bible Students who had been associating with the Watch Tower Society in 1921 had left by 1931.[4][a][6] In 1930 Rutherford stated that "the total number of those who have withdrawn from the Society... is comparatively large."[7]
1 Peter 3:8 NKJV
Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous;
GerhardEbersoehn, the Catholic Church that you despise is a caricature, a phony straw man, a cartoon. It isn't real. It does not exist.
A number of schisms developed within the congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society between 1909 and 1932.[2][3] The most significant split began in 1917 following the election of Joseph Franklin Rutherford as president of the Watch Tower Society two months after Russell's death. The schism began with Rutherford's controversial replacement of four of the Society's board of directors and publication of The Finished Mystery...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Student_movement
Thousands of members left congregations of Bible Students associated with the Watch Tower Society throughout the 1920s prompted in part by Rutherford's failed predictions for the year 1925, increasing disillusionment with his on-going doctrinal and organizational changes, and his campaign for centralized control of the movement.[2] William Schnell, author and former Jehovah's Witness, claims that three-quarters of the original Bible Students who had been associating with the Watch Tower Society in 1921 had left by 1931.[4][a][6] In 1930 Rutherford stated that "the total number of those who have withdrawn from the Society... is comparatively large."[7]
1 Peter 3:8 NKJV
Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous;
GerhardEbersoehn, the Catholic Church that you despise is a caricature, a phony straw man, a cartoon. It isn't real. It does not exist.
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Haai, How on earth did you know?!
Yes, but you have tried to unmask only 1 -- ONE! the most obvious one that needs no disguises but has hundreds -- hundreds that need it!
Yes, you're right. But I am of and off the Waterberg, kees se kind!, a Boerebobbejaan, proudly, you did not know. Just like I did not know when I in South Africa, in darkest and lowest bottom speck of the continent, started my web-page. Have I known --I should have known the Americans would be before Africa as always--, I would not have chosen 'biblestudents'.
But I thought Americans should be able to read, .co.za which does make a world's difference.
Now don't get hopes I'll back off for American stupidity. http://www.biblestudents.co.za is my web-page I'm not surrendering to anyone in the world.
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