The Fourth beast of Revelation

[David H.]

In the Book of Revelation, there are three "beasts" which are described, making the "unholy trinity". The Dragon, the Beast, and the False prophet.
What Most Prophecy scholars and novices miss is that there is a fourth beast as well, One that first appears at the fifth Trumpet, and Only rises to Power for a short while with ten world Kings to execute judgment upon the harlot of Babylon. That's right, the beast of revelation 17 that harlot comes riding out on is the Fourth beast of end times. Often mistaken as the first beast, this latter beast has a different origin, He ascends from the bottomless pit, while the first beast rises from the sea. This fourth beast has different attributes than the first beast and initially has no power (Crowns) which are later given to Him for 1 Hour to make war on the harlot according to the will of God.

What Most prophecy scholars do is combine the beast of rev. 13 with the beast of Rev. 17 and try to identify the beast in modern times based on this misunderstanding. So You have theories of who the eight kings are and the identity of the first beast based on the descriptives found in Revelation 17.

The Point of this post is to separate these two beasts, and introduce you to the "destroyer" Azazel, the head of the fallen Angels who has been locked in chains in the bottomless Pit. He is Not Satan, for the dragon is Satan, He is not the first Beast (Antichrist) who is a man empowered by Satan, Nor is he the False Prophet who is also a man empowered by Satan. The first beast makes war on the saints and overcomes them, while the this fourth beast Makes war with the Lamb and the saints, and the Lamb and the saints are victorious. For this fourth beast rules after the faithful and the saints are with the LORD and His Army.

Thoughts, and questions welcome.

 

[Mosheli]

You might be right that they are different beasts, though it is maybe not necessarily definitely certain.

Dragon (Rev 12) has 7 heads/crowns & 10 horns

Abaddon/Apollyon (Rev 9) rises from the bottomless-pit/abyss

Beast (Rev 11:7) comes from abyss

1st/Sea beast (Rev 13) has 7 heads/names & 10 horns, comes from sea, conquers God's holy people

Scarlet beast riden by harlot (Rev 17) has 7/8 heads/hills/kings & 10 horns/kings, comes out of abyss, lamb triumphs

Beast (Rev 19) defeated by lamb

Statue (Dan 2) has 10 toes

The 4th beast/dragon (Dan 7) has 10/7 + 1 horns/kings

The 10 horns and 7 heads are common to the beasts.
If they are different then the exact relationship is abit misty.
The one is Rev 9 is Abaddon not Azazel. I'm not sure myself he is that same as the one of Rev 17.
I think the scarlet beast is with us now not after he faithful are with the Lord.
Do you know the Greek word used for beast in the different chapters? That might help?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

In the Book of Revelation, there are three "beasts" which are described, making the "unholy trinity". The Dragon, the Beast, and the False prophet.
What Most Prophecy scholars and novices miss is that there is a fourth beast as well, One that first appears at the fifth Trumpet, and Only rises to Power for a short while with ten world Kings to execute judgment upon the harlot of Babylon. That's right, the beast of revelation 17 that harlot comes riding out on is the Fourth beast of end times. Often mistaken as the first beast, this latter beast has a different origin, He ascends from the bottomless pit, while the first beast rises from the sea. This fourth beast has different attributes than the first beast and initially has no power (Crowns) which are later given to Him for 1 Hour to make war on the harlot according to the will of God.

What Most prophecy scholars do is combine the beast of rev. 13 with the beast of Rev. 17 and try to identify the beast in modern times based on this misunderstanding. So You have theories of who the eight kings are and the identity of the first beast based on the descriptives found in Revelation 17.

The Point of this post is to separate these two beasts, and introduce you to the "destroyer" Azazel, the head of the fallen Angels who has been locked in chains in the bottomless Pit. He is Not Satan, for the dragon is Satan, He is not the first Beast (Antichrist) who is a man empowered by Satan, Nor is he the False Prophet who is also a man empowered by Satan. The first beast makes war on the saints and overcomes them, while the this fourth beast Makes war with the Lamb and the saints, and the Lamb and the saints are victorious. For this fourth beast rules after the faithful and the saints are with the LORD and His Army.

Thoughts, and questions welcome.

You do pose an interesting poser here!

This beast is directly related to the fourth beast of Daniel 7! The ten horns are ten kings as Daniel and Early revelation and they are kings which rule the world after the fourth beast devours the whole earth (one world govt.). this fourth beast (kingdom) has been in power since the Roman Empire conquered the Grecian Empire. It started as Rome and has gone through several iterations since.

It s future iterations are
1. The one world govt.
2. The rise of the ten kings ruling the world from that.
3. The rise of the antichrist

The antichrist arises from te ten hors (is the eleventh in Daniel) and subdues 3 of these and the other 7 give allegiance to the antichrist.

With the antichrist as world ruler and the other kings allied with him- they all make was with the Lamb upon His return.


The woman is the one world super church that was overseen by the false prophet, but hated by the secular ten kings.

Every explanation that seeks to answer everything fully has its issues. Things like the seven mountains (symbolically seven kings or kingdoms) identity of the seven kings and the eighth, but as this rule ends with them warring with jesus we know it si the end time world govt ruled by the antichrost and the ten kings.

 

[David H.]

The one is Rev 9 is Abaddon not Azazel.

The Name Azazel comes from the Book of Enoch. He is the chief of the fallen angels and is chained to the bottomless pit in the wilderness east of Jerusalem. During the day of atonement one of the goats was sent out to Azazel to carry away the sins of Israel. Abaddon or Appolyon is the name given in revelation which means destruction or the destroyer.

 

[David H.]

The woman is the one world super church that was overseen by the false prophet, but hated by the secular ten kings.

I Agree with this statement. In the way of timing I do not agree. I see the "unholy trinity" ruling first and their eventually being replaced by this fourth beast.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... What Most prophecy scholars do is combine the beast of rev. 13 with the beast of Rev. 17 ...
The Point of this post is to separate these two beasts ....

What beasts? Have you adequately identified each of their attributes so that you even know WHO/WHAT THEY ARE?

Would you gloss over the "nails"/"screws" used to fasten a house frame together, -- when the boards might simply be held by GRAVITY --, and then declare the type of structure? Will it hold Alaska snow, or a Florida hurricane, -- exactly what IS a "beast"?!?


But of course you HAVE TO gloss over the specifics, because you have NO CLUE as to the Topic, other than your ignorant surmisings. So START at the BEGINNING, and ARRIVE to a CONCLUSION.

... or not ...
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

To All,

"FIVE BEASTS", because Rev. 12 says:

Seven Heads, Ten Horns, and SEVEN DIADEMS
​

and Rev. 13 says:

Seven Heads, Ten Horns, and TEN DIADEMS

​

So obviously these are TWO different Beasts, -- or are they?
Bobby Jo

 

[Ziggy]

A Beast according to Daniel's vision is a Kingdom.
The horns are Kings,
I found this interesting:

The list of the seven kings of Rome, or eight if we include Titus Tatius, is as follows: Romulus, Numa Pompilius, Tullus Hostilius, Ancus Marcius, Tarquinius Priscus, Servius Tullius, Tarquinius Superbus. No historian doubts the existence of the last three kings, since there is clear evidence of their reigns in Rome.

Kings of Rome
https://www.google.com/search?q=kin...46j0j46j0l4.3695j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I dunno
HUGS

 

[Ziggy]

A Beast according to Daniel's vision is a Kingdom.
The horns are Kings,
I found this interesting:

The list of the seven kings of Rome, or eight if we include Titus Tatius, is as follows: Romulus, Numa Pompilius, Tullus Hostilius, Ancus Marcius, Tarquinius Priscus, Servius Tullius, Tarquinius Superbus. No historian doubts the existence of the last three kings, since there is clear evidence of their reigns in Rome.

Kings of Rome
https://www.google.com/search?q=kin...46j0j46j0l4.3695j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I dunno
HUGS

The insignia of the king was twelve lictors wielding the fasces, a throne of a Curule chair, the purple Toga Picta, red shoes, and a white diadem around the head. Only the king could wear a purple toga.[citation needed]

 

[Ziggy]

The insignia of the king was twelve lictors wielding the fasces, a throne of a Curule chair, the purple Toga Picta, red shoes, and a white diadem around the head. Only the king could wear a purple toga.[citation needed]

Mar 15:17
And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head,
Mar 15:20
And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I Agree with this statement. In the way of timing I do not agree. I see the "unholy trinity" ruling first and their eventually being replaced by this fourth beast.

Well we will know for sure when we look down from heaven and see what unfolds in what order during the tribulation.

But as Ecumenism is gaining steam again, I see a one world apostate church in "power" and they push the world towards the antichrist. But time will show for sure.

 

[Ziggy]

Mar 15:17
And they clothed him with purple, and platted a crown of thorns, and put it about his head,
Mar 15:20
And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him.

• Codex, the first form of the modern book, appears in the Roman Empire
• End of 1st century – codex replaces the scroll.

1st century - Wikipedia.

 

[David H.]

But of course you HAVE TO gloss over the specifics, because you have NO CLUE as to the Topic, other than your ignorant surmisings. So START at the BEGINNING, and ARRIVE to a CONCLUSION.

Don't you have something better to do than to scoff?
The Dragon, AKA Satan is the first character in Rev. 12. A Dragon is a Beast.
The beast of Revelation 13:1 is called the "first beast" By John yet is a man empowered by Satan.
The false Prophet is the One who gives religious credence to the first beast, (not the Dragon who is the first beast we are introduced to.
The Beast out of the bottomless pit, Abaddon, Comes on the scene only when the Pit is opened, He is the one that kills the two witnesses, and rules after the first beast and false prophet have been destroyed with the coming of Jesus to rapture the church. This Last beast makes war on the lamb and the Lamb with saints are victorious, while the first beast makes war on the saints and conquers them. What changed? God empowers this last beast to execute judgment on the whore along with his allied ten kings and then they with all the forces are destroyed at the battle of Armageddon.

How is it that you are unable to see this?
Why is it that all you do on this site is scoff people who are trying to explain prophecy? Does it make you feel good to look down on others? Make you feel superior? Then the issue is with you, and between you and God. It is known as Haughtiness and Hubris in scriptures, Look it up. As i said earlier to you, You need to act before your reprobate mind takes over which is close to happening. Get right with God, and go to the cross in repentance, pray the prayer found in Psalm 139:23-24 if you dare, and He will rebuke you so that you will not have to hear it from others here. Which of the following are you?....

Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee. Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning. (Proverbs 9:8-9)

 

[David H.]

But as Ecumenism is gaining steam again, I see a one world apostate church in "power" and they push the world towards the antichrist. But time will show for sure.

Scroll down to the section on "two revivals" at the link near the bottom of the PDF

Escape from Christendom

 

[Bobby Jo]

Don't you have something better to do than to scoff? ...

Don't you have anything better to do than MISREPRESENT SCRIPTURE?!?

Pony up. Tell us what each of the ATTRIBUTES represent IN SPECIFIC DETAIL:

• Who/What are the SEVEN Heads
• Which of the SEVEN Heads is "mortally wounded"
• Who/What are the TEN Horns
• Why Rev. 12 says SEVEN Diadems, but Rev. 13 says TEN Diadems
• Why the Lion is the MOUTH
• Why the Leopard (actually a TIGER) is the BODY
• Why the Bear is the FEET
• Who/What is the BEAST
• Who/What is the False Prophet
• Who/What is the IMAGE of the beast

So stop the dancing around waving your arms as though you have something to say. Either SUBSTANTIATE your "expertise" or go away.


In some respects you're no different that the JW's who AT LEAST can identify FIVE WORLD EMPIRES for Dan. 2. But of course they LIE and CONCEAL their deceptions about exactly Who/What the FIFTH EMPIRE entails; and than proceed to LIE about Dan. 7, because they too have no clue -- so they KEEP LYING.

... NEED MORE LIARS ...
Bobby Jo

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Who is this Harlot? Some have identified this symbolic harlot with ancient Rome. But Rome was a political power. This harlot commits fornication with the kings of the earth, and this evidently includes the kings of Rome. Besides, after her destruction, “the kings of the earth” are said to mourn her passing. Therefore, she cannot be a political power. (Revelation 18:9, 10) Additionally, since she is mourned also by the world’s merchants, she could not picture big business. (Revelation 18:15, 16) We read, however, that ‘by her spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.’ (Revelation 18:23) This makes it clear that the great harlot must be a worldwide religious entity.

Which religious entity? Is she the Roman Catholic Church, as some have maintained? Or is she all of Christendom? No, she must be even larger than these if she is to mislead all the nations. She is, in fact, the entire world empire of false religion. Her origin in the mysteries of Babylon is shown in that many Babylonish doctrines and practices are common to religions around the earth. For example, belief in the inherent immortality of the human soul, in a hell of torment, and in a trinity of gods is to be found in most Oriental religions as well as in the sects of Christendom. False religion, spawned more than 4,000 years ago in the ancient city of Babylon, has developed into the modern monstrosity that is called, appropriately, Babylon the Great.

Why is John carried into a wilderness? An earlier pronouncement of doom against ancient Babylon was described as being “against the wilderness of the sea.” (Isaiah 21:1, 9) This gave due warning that, despite all its watery defenses, ancient Babylon would become a lifeless desolation. It is fitting, then, that John should be carried in his vision to a wilderness to see the fate of Babylon the Great. She too must become desolate and waste. (Revelation 18:19, 22, 23)

 

[Ziggy]

Who is this Harlot? Some have identified this symbolic harlot with ancient Rome. But Rome was a political power. This harlot commits fornication with the kings of the earth, and this evidently includes the kings of Rome. Besides, after her destruction, “the kings of the earth” are said to mourn her passing. Therefore, she cannot be a political power. (Revelation 18:9, 10) Additionally, since she is mourned also by the world’s merchants, she could not picture big business. (Revelation 18:15, 16) We read, however, that ‘by her spiritistic practice all the nations were misled.’ (Revelation 18:23) This makes it clear that the great harlot must be a worldwide religious entity.

Which religious entity? Is she the Roman Catholic Church, as some have maintained? Or is she all of Christendom? No, she must be even larger than these if she is to mislead all the nations. She is, in fact, the entire world empire of false religion. Her origin in the mysteries of Babylon is shown in that many Babylonish doctrines and practices are common to religions around the earth. For example, belief in the inherent immortality of the human soul, in a hell of torment, and in a trinity of gods is to be found in most Oriental religions as well as in the sects of Christendom. False religion, spawned more than 4,000 years ago in the ancient city of Babylon, has developed into the modern monstrosity that is called, appropriately, Babylon the Great.

Why is John carried into a wilderness? An earlier pronouncement of doom against ancient Babylon was described as being “against the wilderness of the sea.” (Isaiah 21:1, 9) This gave due warning that, despite all its watery defenses, ancient Babylon would become a lifeless desolation. It is fitting, then, that John should be carried in his vision to a wilderness to see the fate of Babylon the Great. She too must become desolate and waste. (Revelation 18:19, 22, 23)

It's the Spirit of Jezebel.
That is one scary woamn.
I did a study on her in I think it's Psalm 1..
and she is everywhere..
Creepy ..murderous greedy..nasty woman
She is in the churches..
Jesus said he gave her room to repent.. but I think her spirit is still infecting like leprousy.. or covid.. everything

HUGS

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Scroll down to the section on "two revivals" at the link near the bottom of the PDF

Escape from Christendom

There will always be revival in Christianity which is found within Christendom.

 

[Davy]

In the Book of Revelation, there are three "beasts" which are described, making the "unholy trinity". The Dragon, the Beast, and the False prophet.
What Most Prophecy scholars and novices miss is that there is a fourth beast as well, One that first appears at the fifth Trumpet, and Only rises to Power for a short while with ten world Kings to execute judgment upon the harlot of Babylon. That's right, the beast of revelation 17 that harlot comes riding out on is the Fourth beast of end times. Often mistaken as the first beast, this latter beast has a different origin, He ascends from the bottomless pit, while the first beast rises from the sea. This fourth beast has different attributes than the first beast and initially has no power (Crowns) which are later given to Him for 1 Hour to make war on the harlot according to the will of God.

What Most prophecy scholars do is combine the beast of rev. 13 with the beast of Rev. 17 and try to identify the beast in modern times based on this misunderstanding. So You have theories of who the eight kings are and the identity of the first beast based on the descriptives found in Revelation 17.
....

Thoughts, and questions welcome.

Firstly, how God's Word applies the label 'beast' must be understood. In the Book of Daniel the 'beast' idea is applied to both a kingdom and a king over it. Daniel 4 reveals how God punished Nebuchadnezzar by making him literally lose his mind and live like a wild animal among literal beasts.

In Revelation 13 both beast examples are given. The first beast is about a kingdom having ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns. The second beast, called "another beast" which means literally a second one, is about an entity coming to deceive, working miracles, representing the Antichrist for the end.

We find the same mention of both beast types in Revelation 17 also. It's just a bit more difficult to discern there, but it's there with mention again of the seven heads and ten horns of Rev.13:1, with the symbolic woman sitting upon it (meaning rule over it). The "waters" point back to the Rev.13:1 beast kingdom that comes up out of the sea, with the waters representing peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.

Revelation 17 also reveals the same layout of the Book of Daniel with the beast kingdoms, with ten kings and the "little horn" king that comes up among them, which is the beast king pointed to that ascends out of the bottomless pit.


Once all this is put together, it represent a final 'beast' system over all nations and peoples on earth as the final Antichrist kingdom just prior to Christ's return to end it. Today, it is what globalists have called "a one world government". This one world government system will be ruled over by a coming king, the Antichrist. The symbolic "woman" of Rev.17 is a "great city" pointing to Jerusalem in Rev.11. That is where the coming Antichrist is to reign for a short time at the end of this world, deceiving the nations. As for the ten kings, with his subduing three of them per the Daniel prophecy, I believe that doesn't mean Antichrist will destroy those 3, but place them in power over a tri-part dividing kingdom spanning the whole earth, just below in power to the beast king (Antichrist). The other 7 kings, I believe will be below them, and over 7 continents of the earth, the "seven mountains". The whole structure forms a pyramid.

 

[Douggg]

To All,

"FIVE BEASTS", because Rev. 12 says:

Seven Heads, Ten Horns, and SEVEN DIADEMS
​

and Rev. 13 says:

Seven Heads, Ten Horns, and TEN DIADEMS

​

So obviously these are TWO different Beasts, -- or are they?
Bobby Jo

42 months left in the 7 years - The beast in Revelation 13, the end times person, is after the spirit of the garden of eden serpent ascends out of the bottomless pit to possess him.

7 years left in the 7 years - Satan in Revelation 12 is pictured as the beast, because the spirit of the garden of eden serpent will still be in the bottomless pit at the beginning of the 7 years. The seven years in Revelation 12 are Revelation 12:6 (first half), and the time/times/half time Revelation 12:14 (second half)

first century - Satan is the scarlet colored beast in Revelation 17, as the spirit of the garden of eden serpent was in the bottomless pit.

The two principles of Satan are the end times person and the garden of eden serpent - which combine as the end times person will be possessed by the serpent spirit - becoming "the" beast entity.