Good question. It is in reference to the creation. We understand this from the following verses context talking about all things being made through Him.
Separate person, same God. The Trinity is Father, Son, Spirit. Three persons, one in essence.
I'm not sure I understand your question.
GINOLJC, to all.
First, thanks for the reply. Second, you said, "
the beginning in John 1:1 was in reference to the creation". we must disagree with that assessment, and here's why. let's go to 1 John 1:1 and lets see what John said. 1 John 1:1-3 "That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 "(For the life was
manifested, and
we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life,
which was with the Father, and
was manifested unto us; 3 "T
hat which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ".
John was not at the beginning at Genesis 1:1. nor was this beginning, it was the beginning of the gospel, that God came in the flesh to give to us directly. for in time past he had spoken to the father in divers manners. lets prove that, Hosea 12:10 "I have also spoken by the prophets, and
I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets". but now he speakes to us directly by his Son which is him in flesh as you so graciously pointed out in John 1:14. that similitudes what Hosea 12:10 points out is confirm by the apostle Paul in Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression,
who is the figure of him that was to come". this figure is the "manifestation of God in flesh.
now knowing this lets see what the son of God came to do. Mark 1:1 "
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God". there is that "Beginning John spoke of in John 1:1 and concirm in 1 John 1:1 and romans 5:14b.
so your assessment of John 1:! is incorrect.
NEXT: the was "WITH" God? another ERROR on your part. listen, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations
from the beginning?
I the LORD, the first, and
with the last; I am he". did you see that "
WITH" there. it;s the same person. it's the LORD who is God. and Jesus is the "First" the ROOT, the Beginning, and he the LORD Jesus is the "Last" the OFFSPRING, the end, the same person only "Diversified". how do we know this, because OFFSPRING meand "diversity".
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and
the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star".
Offspring: G1085 γένος genos (ǰe'-nos) n.
kin.
{abstract or concrete, literal or figurative, individual or collective}
[from G1096]
KJV: born, country(-man),
diversity, generation, kind(-red), nation, offspring, stock
Root(s): G1096
the Son is a "figure, or a similitude of God in flesh, not a "SEPARATE" and distinct person, no, the same person only diversified in flesh. so another error on your Part.
and lastly, the WORD is the LORD of the OT. and he didn't go through anyone. understand the term "by" in John 1:3 and then you will know who the Lord Jesus is. John 1:3 "
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made". the word "BY" here is the Greek word, G1223 διά dia (d̮iy-a') prep.
δι- di- (d̮iy-) [shortened prefix]
1. through.
2. throughout.
3. on account of (that thing).
4. (of time) after (i.e. through the fullness of or completion of).
5. (as a prefix) thorough, thoroughly.
{in very wide applications, local, causal, or occasional}
[a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act]
KJV: after, always, among, at, to avoid, because of (that), briefly, by, for (cause) ... fore, from, in, by occasion of, of, by reason of, for sake, that, thereby, therefore, X though, through(-out), to, wherefore, with (-in). In composition it retains the same general importance
Compare: G575, G1537
Note that second definition,
2. throughout. do you know what throughout means? lets see.
Throughout:
in every part of (a place or object).
Similar:
all over all round in every part (of) everywhere (in) all through right through here and there (in)
round.
meaning that he "
made all things" lets see if this backed up by the scriptures themselves.
now lets back this up with scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith
the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am
the LORD that
maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens
alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth
by myself".
well, well, well, it was the LORD who is the WORD that "MADE ALL THINGS " ... BY HIMSEF, and he was "ALONE" when he did it. so that just by the scriptures nullified going through anyone. you might wnat to re-examine your take on the book of John chapter 1.
PICJAG.
