The Holy Spirit only in the church!

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theefaith

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The Holy Spirit only works in the church, the communion of saints!

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

The only exception of the Holy Spirit working outside the church is that the Holy Spirit draws men to repentance and to become members of Christ, sanctified by grace thru the sacraments of Christ in His church!

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Acts 9:31
Then had the church rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

1 Corinthians 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord…

Ephesians 3:21
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Hebrews 2:12
Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

The spirit leads the apostles into all truth! Jn 16:13 and they teach the disciples with thee faith! Eph 4:5 The sacred deposit of faith once delivered to the saints! Jude 1:3

The Holy Spirit brings Unity of faith!

The gifts and fruits of the spirit found in the holy church founded by Christ for the sanctification and salvation of all men:

Gifts:

Wisdom
Understanding
Counsel
Knowledge
Piety
Fear of the Lord
Fortitude

Fruits:

love
joy
peace
longsuffering
gentleness
goodness
faith
 
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Matthias

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The Holy Spirit only works in the church, the communion of saints!

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

The only exception of the Holy Spirit working outside the church is that the Holy Spirit draws men to repentance and to become members of Christ, sanctified by grace thru the sacraments of Christ in His church!

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Acts 9:31
Then had the church rest throughout all Judaea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.

1 Corinthians 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord…

Ephesians 3:21
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

1 Corinthians 6:11
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Hebrews 2:12
Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

The spirit leads the apostles into all truth! Jn 16:13 and they teach the disciples with thee faith! Eph 4:5 The sacred deposit of faith once delivered to the saints! Jude 1:3

The Holy Spirit brings Unity of faith!

The gifts and fruits of the spirit found in the holy church founded by Christ for the sanctification and salvation of all men:

Gifts:

Wisdom
Understanding
Counsel
Knowledge
Piety
Fear of the Lord
Fortitude

Fruits:

love
joy
peace
longsuffering
gentleness
goodness
faith

When you say “The Holy Spirit only works in the church” are you saying that the Holy Spirit only works in the Roman Catholic Church?
 

Matthias

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Is there another church founded by Christ?

What have the Protestants said?

The assertion you made in the OP implies that the Holy Spirit doesn’t work in Protestants, nor in others.

Has the Catholic Church said that?

I presume you’ve heard Protestants say that they are trinitarians because the Holy Spirit convicted them.
 
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What have the Protestants said?

The assertion you made in the OP implies that the Holy Spirit doesn’t work in Protestants, nor in others.

Has the Catholic Church said that?

I presume you’ve heard Protestants say that they are trinitarians because the Holy Spirit convicted them.

the HS is given to the church!
Not to heretics!
 

Matthias

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the HS is given to the church!
Not to heretics!

Then you don’t believe Protestant trinitarians - heretics - who say they became trinitarian because they were convicted by the Holy Spirit.

How do you account for them becoming / being trinitarian?

Do you believe they aren’t trinitarian?

Is it possible to be trinitarian without the Holy Spirit working in them?

Is it possible to be trinitarian outside of the Roman Catholic Church?
 

Matthias

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“The Athanasian Creed … is found in many Protestant confessions …”

Explaining the "Blessed Trinity": Why the Athanasian Creed Matters - SOLA Network

Yet, you suggest @theefaith, the Holy Spirit is not at work in Protestant trinitarian denominations; has not been given to them.

It seems that you’ve presented the following scenario to me and to our readers:

Those who believe and recite the Athanasian Creed as the confession of their faith - the true faith, the Christian faith - have the Holy Spirit if Catholic but don’t have the Holy Spirit if Protestant.
 

Matthias

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The Holy Spirit is connected with being Roman Catholic, not with being trinitarian.
 

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Then you don’t believe Protestant trinitarians - heretics - who say they became trinitarian because they were convicted by the Holy Spirit.

How do you account for them becoming / being trinitarian?

Do you believe they aren’t trinitarian?

Is it possible to be trinitarian without the Holy Spirit working in them?

Is it possible to be trinitarian outside of the Roman Catholic Church?

I suppose but the HS leads all men to Christ and his church the ark of salvation!
 

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“The Athanasian Creed … is found in many Protestant confessions …”

Explaining the "Blessed Trinity": Why the Athanasian Creed Matters - SOLA Network

Yet, you suggest @theefaith, the Holy Spirit is not at work in Protestant trinitarian denominations; has not been given to them.

It seems that you’ve presented the following scenario to me and to our readers:

Those who believe and recite the Athanasian Creed as the confession of their faith - the true faith, the Christian faith - have the Holy Spirit if Catholic but don’t have the Holy Spirit if Protestant.

Faith and baptism are required to be in the new covenant church

the HS is given to the church
Outside the church He draws men to the church and the sacraments
 

theefaith

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Yes. (Acts of the Apostles 8:27-39) (Revelation 1:4)

Jn 10:16 one shepherd one fold

There is and can only be one true:

One God
One Christ
One Savior
One Spirit
One king
One Mediator
One Christian Religion
One New Covenant
One Church / body of Christ
One teaching Authority of apostles
One Gospel
OneVineyard
One Kingdom
One House of God
One Household of faith
One Baptism
One Redemption
One Justification
One Sanctification
One Salvation

One, holy, catholic, and apostolic!

One: Jn 10:16

Holy: Eph 2:19:22

Catholic: Lk 1:10-11 Jn 1:29 Jn 3:16
(Universal)

Apostolic: Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18 Matt 28:19 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20
 

Matthias

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Faith and baptism are required to be in the new covenant church

the HS is given to the church
Outside the church He draws men to the church and the sacraments

Non-Catholic trinitarians, out of the pool.
 

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Jn 10:16 one shepherd one fold

There is and can only be one true:

One God
One Christ
One Savior
One Spirit
One king
One Mediator
One Christian Religion
One New Covenant
One Church / body of Christ
One teaching Authority of apostles
One Gospel
OneVineyard
One Kingdom
One House of God
One Household of faith
One Baptism
One Redemption
One Justification
One Sanctification
One Salvation

One, holy, catholic, and apostolic!

One: Jn 10:16

Holy: Eph 2:19:22

Catholic: Lk 1:10-11 Jn 1:29 Jn 3:16
(Universal)

Apostolic: Matt 16:18-19 Matt 18:18 Matt 28:19 Jn 20:21 eph 2:20

catholic (lowercase c) means universal

Catholic (capital C) is a denomination

Don't conflate the two; it is deception.
 
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Faith and baptism are required to be in the new covenant church

the HS is given to the church
Outside the church He draws men to the church and the sacraments

Faith is required to be in the new covenant church. Baptism is not; it is a ritual statement by a believer (which is why infant sprinkling is invalid).

Where in Scripture does it say that the Holy Spirit draws men (and women?) to the sacraments?
 

Jim B

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Is there another church founded by Christ?

The Roman Catholic denomination is not the body of Christ. All believers are the body of Christ.

Ephesians 1:23, "Now the church is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all."
 
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